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9th June 2004, 03:10 AM
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DONT POST THE NAME - the grief is between you and them and you would be in unsteady water publishing the name.
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9th June 2004, 09:43 AM
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Maybe there are different ways they work, but those who I've seen (and I assume all those I've seen) only get their power when the have to flash. When there's no need for strobo there wont be power.
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9th June 2004, 11:39 AM
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a strobe is designed to have constantly power
a controller or dmx makes it flash when you don't have dmx or don't have a strobecontroller you can put it on a switchable dimmer or on a manual switch In this way it's true that when the strobe isn't flashing there is no power. But then you can't dim it or change the speed. 
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#34
9th June 2004, 12:42 PM
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damaging to there repuation - yes, but is'nt that the point, if nobody knows there shit they they keep getting paid and hired to do the same shit. theres nothing wrong with reccomending or naming and shaming a brand name/ company / product, why's it any different with a service/indiviual when a company here rips people off, mis-leeds people etc etc, people report it, wirte about it, complain to appropraite people, whine in newpapers, and even get them selves on TV disscusing exactly why that company is shit, and what they did that was wrong. and of course all of that would be utterly pointless if nobody knew who the hell they were taling about. when easyjet/car/net/house what ever is ripping people off and not provided claimed services, i'd much preffer to know about it, who, than to not. with the added bonus of watching Stelio's squirm defending his company and name on national tv in an interview by that robinson. had watchdog not felt the need to expose this and their name would have easywhatevertheydonow done anything to change it. doubt it, if no one know who cares right!! reaction to shiteness is the only way to improve things, maybe the owner of that compnay does'nt know how incompetant his staff are, and how his employee's giving his business a bad name. bring it to the attention of the people and the company will make efforts to fix it, and provide better servieces in the future. I not saying morninglight should post the name, thats entierly up to him, and at his discretion, but to be TOLD not to i feel is yet more vjcensorship. Charlie if i employed your company to rig an event for us, and i was exceptioannly happy with your professional service and conduct, would you not like me to make refernce to that in the future, or should i talk about this absolutly amazing service, with wonderfull people and high-end equipment, but they must remain anynomus because it was between us and them? personally i like reccomending comapies when they have done a good service for you its like doing them a good service back, i think the same should be applied in both directions. if people provide a shitty service and piss me off by not performing to their reqiurements/expectaions, i wont protect them or there name, why hell would I, or should I? if im shit i expect people to tell me, if im shit i anticipate that word will be spread about my shitness, this keeps things in check, and allows me to make changes as long as i know that i've been shit. aagghh nuff rambling, but just seems to me theres more and more of this powertrippy censorshipy type shite going on round here, if i want to drop a name on a bad service i feel i have the right to do so, as does that person to make a response and defend himself.
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9th June 2004, 01:13 PM
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As much as i get mysticalfish i must point out that there is a big diference in a mayor tv station brobcasting a bad reviue and a vj on a fourm doing tha same thing. A mayor tv station is not anyonimus, ie you know emedietly who to contact and complain, where as we on this forum we are nameless and so dont expose ourselfs. Of course today there is a way to find anyone, but the diference is what it takes.
I think that being descreet is a sign of a mature media attitude...we can always pm and ask the companys name direcly.
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#36
9th June 2004, 01:28 PM
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the issue is to be careful in giving the name of any bad companies, promoters, fellow VJs and whatever to the public. who can tell it's not the rivaling company giving others a bad name in posts? we will see threads and maybe the whole forum going up in smoke if flaming-by-name starts, the angry answers roll in and the shooting starts. seex is right, in this cases anyone interested should ask the poster directly if you want to know more.
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#37
9th June 2004, 09:07 PM
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What about posting the name and a review on your own web space and linking to it. People who want to know can find out, others who don't can skip it.
More importantly this method shows that you 100% take responsability for what you write. They are your words, in your article, on your site. When posting on VJF some people can think "Oh, it's just a VJF post..." and not take full responsability for what they're saying. No-one's done 'out wrong, but this, I think, is a good way forward should someone want to write up a companies performance. Alan
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#38
10th June 2004, 07:13 AM
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I?m a lighting guy who now does AV also, so I thought I'd try clear this up. What could be happening is the strobe when in use, is pulling an enormous amount of power on the circuit or phase; most strobes have very bad or no power filters installed - sending all sorts of spikes and junk through the circuit they are on. Most electronic equipment will have problems with this - especially a projector with an electronically controlled discharge lamp! A Martin Atomic strobe for instance, has quite good power filtering - but will still cause this (try plugging a crappy amp onto the same circuit as a strobe and listen to the output). When at outdoor festivals, we always setup projectors on generators assigned to sound, on a phase that does NOT have subwoofer amps plugged in. This way, there?s usually a more consistent voltage and supply! Speak soon, TiMBO!
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#39
12th June 2004, 12:20 PM
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 For the powersurge problem, always request a seperate poweroutlet apart from the sound/lightsystem...
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12th June 2004, 11:36 PM
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Obviously a VJ needs the technical know-how to get problems fixed if needed, and to help teh techies, but it is NOT needed for him to set up the stuff, I think. If there's a company that brings the gear and they say they can set it up, why would I? Personally I don't enjoy it, but I do give them detailed schematics about my setup to ease their work a lot, and as I said before, I've got a group of people I work with always that already know how I work, my requirements and everything, so I know I can let them rig it all up and then I come up, say, 4 hours before the event, or whenever it's ready, to test it all, and then come back when it starts. Most times we have no problems. I suppose you don't take seriously any DJ that visits your country? I've seen the bigger names not showing up for a soundtest or anything, they just come up to the event when it's started already, go up and play. Obvioulsy it's a different situation, but I mean that if there's a team of talented people that can rig up a visuals set perfectly according to yoru specifications, you wouldn't NEED to come as early as 3/4/6 hours to the event to tell them it's all wrong and they have to do it again, or do it yourself.
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