recycle bin - thread gone offtopic and now taking some new directions

[BerzalonFlange]

nice images. are those plasma screens behind the dj in the top row of pictures?

[vjrei]

Yeah, those are plasma. believe it or not, in Venezuela the rave parties are very sofisticated.

We use to have sponsors for our parties, that way, we have a lot of money to spend in production. We can do the paries by invitation and we can filter the ugly people. We usually do not have to promote the brand name of the sponsor in the screens,as I VJ I can charge more for it. Th sponsor is happy, the people are happy, the DJ's and VJ are happy, it is a win-win solution.

I want to develop the same concept in New York. I'm preparing my material to work that out, so many VJs can charge big $$$ one in a while.

[fALk]

we can filter the ugly people.

Oh man you surely think you are the hot shit right, maybe a little arrogant? since when is filtering out "ugly" people a good thing? Who decides who is ugly, you? You prolly look like a hybrid of Arnie S. and Sylvie S.

think about it please and make this world better.

PS: comments like those scare me - scare me a lot. And I have refused to play in clubs with "a door policy" that goes by the look of people. All those barbies around me make me sick. I want real people and real people do not all look good - its a fact of life. If you want "pretty people" around you then make your life in a high gloss magazine never turn on the news never look out the street and shoot everyone who comes in sight who does "not look pretty"... sorry had to get this off - as always unfiltered and right from inside me.

[oxygen]

i hate that kinda things too, makes me allergic.
playing in clubs with door policy.
in amsterdam there are a lot of them.
definatly 'not' my style.
plastic world & 2many drugs (mostly of the time).
but i'm off topic.
...doesnt mean that i dont like your website , vjrei.

[zap25]

It's easy to refuse gigs at places that have a door policy... usually I don't even get gigs there cuz I don't fit their dresscodes.

But it's easy to point the finger at others.
It's human to be shallow. We all have our prejudices.
We all automatically judge people in some by their looks, it's almost instinct. I've got a hard time taking men in 3 piece suits seriously for example.

I like to work with talented people myself. Even though this is highly discriminating to the people who don't have talent it's a fact of life that some people are born with talent and some are not.
For the talentless it's even worse cuz there's no such thing as Creative Surgery yet (well there are forms of creative surgery, but they mean something completely different)

[eXhale]

You have to recognize that door policies have the advantage of locking all the boring superficial neurotics in one place. During this time the more interesting people are freed from interference and can do something other than look at each others' clothes

[brain]

if "ugly" means troublemakers, drunks, gropers, and people spreading bad vibes, i have no problem with it. nothing worse than a party spoiled by a few assholes. the door is not the problem, but the policy at the door. you just cant have a good time with everyone.

if "ugly" meant "not pretty or fashionable", its just stoopid...

the pics look professional, and if some people still think of venezuela as near third-world country it's time for them to make up their minds. i wished we had some of that gear in our clubs over here!

[disassembler]

With club nights with gear like your playing with now,you may want to stay in Venezuela.

But all the best in New York.

Why New York?

[vjrei]

Originally posted by brain
if "ugly" means troublemakers, drunks, gropers, and people spreading bad vibes, i have no problem with it. nothing worse than a party spoiled by a few assholes. the door is not the problem, but the policy at the door. you just cant have a good time with everyone.

if "ugly" meant "not pretty or fashionable", its just stoopid...

the pics look professional, and if some people still think of venezuela as near third-world country it's time for them to make up their minds. i wished we had some of that gear in our clubs over here!

Ugly means people that will come to your place and get drunk and create a bad atmosphere, uglie people need to be manage by security. I know Venezuela is recognized by their beautiful women but do not take me wrong. There are people that go to a place already drunk (for example) while the rest of the people are having fun and fooling around.

I'm going to NY because there is a lot to do there, Venezuela is a very small market, I'm already on the top basically and in the Venezuelan culture people will not pay for your experience. In the US there is a lot of respect about that.

I want to see if I can give a hand to the VJ community. Caracas is a test tube for new technologies. The .com were a fraud 1 years before the big companies started to crash. VJ is a big industry, we are about to feel the boom and I feel NY is a good point to start developing some concepts.

About the gear, that is what I say about using sponsors. Now, my secret is what kind of sponsors and how to make the deal and the approach. That is gonna be a new learning curve again but here works very well.

Around 1996 we had our rave parties in the "classic" way, people were very ugly, like Punks and stuff, very conflictive, but that is not the Venezuelan way to be, it was a imitation. Then, around 1988 a guy in a wheel chair started to develop small parties just for uptown people using sponsors. The thing became so well that the concept spread 2 years later. Now you have money for a good lighting, you can have 5 plasma screen and at list 3 projectors. The people are behaving a lot better and they are gatting a good party for nothing because most of them are free.

The same sponsors are developing their own parties now, importing DJs from England specially. It is a big industry but the people here still very cheap still with national talent. A local DJ can ask for $300 at most for 3 hours, an outsider can get from $5,000 to $20,000 I'm not kidding + expenses. And I'm not talking about William Orbit or things like that yet.

I'm gonna upload more videos later when I can fix a problem with the server.

[disassembler]

You may be in for a harsh reality rei. DOGGY DOG! Dawg.

HEY! NEW YORK VJ'S!!!!. HOWS THE SCENE!!!
How many superstar VJ's are there in NYC?