questions a bout 3d mapping projection

[rsx.muhammad]

The first time that I saw 3d video advertising on the walls like a real part of any living creature Which were displayed on the street, the following questions came into my mind:
1. Which kind of Projection have ability of showing this movies?which Projection should be used for showing the film on great large scale, like (10m × 8 m) ? How is the distant relationship between Projection & the pictures ?
2. What is the software that can help to make up this trailers & what applications i suppose to use?
3.Is there any special workshop holding somewhere in the world or not?


Thanks

[vjair]

1) all projectors will allow you to project video. there are a lot of factors to be considered when speccing the right one for the right job. what time of day? is there other light to interfere with the projection? whats the distance between the placement of the projector and the area being projected upon?

2) what you make your video in is entirely your own choice - after effects, premiere, final cut, motion, c4d, Max, maya and many other choices besides. generaly the software used to create and the software used to playback are not the same ( there are exceptions though, for instance: MAX / Jitter / vvvv / processing ) popular choices for playback are modul8 and avenue with extra plugins liek madmapper and ir mapio expanding on the basic abilities. again though, there are far more options than mentioned.
http://www.softwarevj.com/ can help you find the aps that fit your needs soo you can narrow down the choices.

3) there are workshops in many countrys, but generaly one offs and not regular weekly events - "video mapping" is the term you need to search for

[rsx.muhammad]

Thank you very much , that really helped and actually was one of the best answers that I have ever heard .
But :
I was wondering if you could give me some more information a bout questions below :
First of I wanted to ask you a bout some informations . the informations are about some special kinds of 3d projectors which could help me to get involve with my exprimentations in my own workshop . projector performance and also prices is very important for me . actually I want to buy a perfect projector with high performance and low price .
Secound of all , I wanted to know the hole price rate for any kind of3d projector, I mean different brands and models . wich one has the best ability in expriment and works wich happened in offices and labs (small size works)? Wich one has better fit back in big sizes , real works and programs ? is there any diffrence among this two kind of activiteis and the 3d projecter that I have to use ?
For last question , I think by the time you gussed that I am not specialist in this field of art . (its pure art as I see) . I was wondering if you could guide me for going to some reliable and academic workshops wich are working expertly in 3d mapping and 3d projection . the place of class Is not that much important for me , but the knowladge & time is . its better for me to go to this class a bout six mounth later. Because I am a foreigner , I prefer to have an net baise enrollmente . I mean I want to pay my fees and tutation with net and make every thing , like hotel and this things ,okey from my owne country and then travel to the place that class is holding . I don’t want to be there and have nothing .:-)..
With special thanks great frinds of mine .
Sorry because of my mistakes in writing ,

[PCProject]

There is no such thing as a '3D' projector.
The content is made in 3D and projected like any other content.The way the eye perceives the projected image by the (current) use of wearing correction glasses in front of your eyes gives the 3D effect.
There is of course the various 'peppers ghost' systems which involves a sheet of clear plastic as the projection surface giving an effect of whatever is projected being there in the 'real'.
If you are thinking of projecting onto a 10m x 8m surface then realistically you are looking for a projector of a minimum of 15k lumens and at a cost of something in the region of UK Sterling 20k+ and then you would need to buy lenses. Here is an example http://www.memory-express.co.uk/p/60...tm_medium=Lead
Mostly when projectors of this size are involved they are hired in specifically for specific jobs.

[rsx.muhammad]

Originally Posted by PCProject

There is no such thing as a '3D' projector.
The content is made in 3D and projected like any other content.The way the eye perceives the projected image by the (current) use of wearing correction glasses in front of your eyes gives the 3D effect.
There is of course the various 'peppers ghost' systems which involves a sheet of clear plastic as the projection surface giving an effect of whatever is projected being there in the 'real'.
If you are thinking of projecting onto a 10m x 8m surface then realistically you are looking for a projector of a minimum of 15k lumens and at a cost of something in the region of UK Sterling 20k+ and then you would need to buy lenses. Here is an example http://www.memory-express.co.uk/p/60...tm_medium=Lead
Mostly when projectors of this size are involved they are hired in specifically for specific jobs.

with special thanks to MR PC PROJECTION
Here , I have puted a movie link for you Mr PC PROJECTION . you can see the movies .

3D Projection Mapping promoting The Tourist in Dallas - YouTube

3D Projection Mapping promoting The Tourist in Dallas - YouTube

I don’t know the real name of this things and I just called them 3d projectors and 3d movies but this things are real 3d . you know , there is not any need for using glasses and sth like that . you can realize that that pictures are pure 3d . maybe I have some incomplate informations but I do know what I have seen .
I am steel waiting for some body whom can give some answers to my questions . and of course I want to know a bout workshops in this field . I mean 3d mapping or whatever it is . I don’t know the actual name .
I think , I had to repeat my questions


First of all I wanted to ask you a bout some informations . the informations are about some special kinds of 3d projectors which could help me to get involve with my exprimentations in my own workshop . projector performance and also prices is very important for me . actually I want to buy a perfect projector with high performance and low price .
Secound of all , I wanted to know the hole price rate for any kind of3d projector, I mean different brands and models . wich one has the best ability in expriment and works wich happened in offices and labs (small size works)? Wich one has better fit back in big sizes , real works and programs ? is there any diffrence among this two kind of activiteis and the 3d projecter that I have to use ?
For last question , I think by the time you gussed that I am not specialist in this field of art . (its pure art as I see) . I was wondering if you could guide me for going to some reliable and academic workshops wich are working expertly in 3d mapping and 3d projection . the place of class Is not that much important for me , but the knowladge & time is . its better for me to go to this class a bout six mounth later. Because I am a foreigner , I prefer to have an net baise enrollmente . I mean I want to pay my fees and tutation with net and make every thing , like hotel and this things ,okey from my owne country and then travel to the place that class is holding . I don’t want to be there and have nothing .:-)..
With special thanks great frinds of mine .

[PCProject]

Well I am sorry to have to explain to you once again to you, this time slowly and carefully, that despite you believing those are 3D please take my word for it is a 2D projection of a 3D animation. The glasses reference was to cinematic 3D. Sorry for the confusion I caused but that doesnt entitle you to be rude to me in return. I accept that I didnt realise you have such a limited grasp of how the projections are done.
There no no courses or workshops that are run regularly to teach these skills. Most of the people that are doing this type of work have many years of experience before attempting something like that This why you arent getting any answers to those questions.
Please understand if you dont like the answers to your questions that isnt my fault for answering your questions.

here is a link to a google search for tutorials

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sugex...w=1067&bih=737

and here is another search for workshops but i checked 3 pages in and there is nothing shown for the future

http://www.google.co.uk/#q=video+map...w=1067&bih=737

Oh and being rude isnt the way to get strangers to help you, if you cant even copy my name correctly I do personally believe these skills will be beyond you. See, I too can be rude to a stranger on the internet, it isnt like it is hard or big or clever.

[deepvisual]

glad to see someone post one of the faked mapping clips from youtube...

cant be arsed to dig out the twats reply, its on here somewhere.

oh go on then

http://vjforums.com/showthread.php?t=35351

[PCProject]

Indeed and to save our new friend some time here is a link to the post that nails the fakery that is going in the video they are in awe of. I did have it in mind to post your video of the mapping at Marble Arch you did as a good example but lost patience and couldnt be bothered to do anymore searching that 'somebody' else should at least be capable of if they want to attempt something like this!

http://vjforums.com/showpost.php?p=270123&postcount=19

[rsx.muhammad]

Hi again ,
beyond every thing that I said and things that happend . I wanted to give my special thanks to Mr PC PROJECT . (calling you projection was just a honest mistake cuased by writting projection again and again in my request page.) sorry .
Again that I should say sorry and ask for forgivness because of what I said but , only for your considration , I am not a prefect english writer or speaker . by the time that I am writting for you , I had to use 2 or 3 dictionaris plus google translate . sorry because of my rudness . It happend just becuse I didnt know the proper words .
Honestly That wasnt delibrate insulting but it happend . sorry . you will make me happy if you accept my apologize . I am looking forward to hearing from you Dear PC PROJECT .
One more thing , you should know that my country is in embargo and by cotting . most of the times when I am using forums and sites , I have no choice except using nearest name to my owne country . I mean Iraq . My country name dosent exist in many web sites and using Iraq had became a habbit for me . it wasnt delibratly or for abusing or sth . Its just a habbit , bad habbit I know , that happend . apologize from all members and all people . In our country , such a things dont exist .3D projections , mapping , projectors and people who were expert in this field . This situation makes many problems for me . you can see that i dont have any information a bout this things . but I know that i want to do it . Iwant to work and get expriments . hard work but I will do it . If you let me , steel I have some questions , First , Waht do you mean by Fake PROJECTION? Whats the diffrence among real or fake projection ?
and for getting basic information and data wich web site has the great archive and can help me to go throught ?
MR PC PROJECT , your answers are very comlate and helpful . help me
again if you dont mind, please .

[labmeta]

Hey Muhammad,

Take a look at this page, it should explain the technique:

http://vvvv.org/documentation/how-to...on-3d-geometry

Achieving it can be hard and this page won't give all the answers but should get you going.

Paul