retro style = joshua light show

[LEVLHED]

so, just a recap here.
I sent them 4 or 5 800x600 uncompressed AVI variations of some nice rescreen feedback on DVD-R, including video-dvd versions so they could easily preview the files.
what happened? "oh, we've put this project on the back burner"
which to me means its never going to happen.

so, I gave up some nice content, spent countless hours even re-vamping it and getting extreme hi-rez files to them....for NOTHING. granted, I wasn't doing it for payment in the first place (they caught me at an altruistic time)..but I would have really like to see my work in the finished proposed project.

("I told you so's" not really needed here)

[holly]

Originally posted by LEVLHED
("I told you so's" not really needed here)

I guess it would be pointless to ask for your footage back.

[disassembler]

[KillingFrenzy]

http://www.archive.org/details/keep_off_the_grass
Just grab some of the effects from this and other old propaganda.
PSAs aren't parents. PSAs aren't peers.
If you want kids to behave intelligently, have somebody they respect give them the information they need. Fear tactics never accomplish anything but to confuse the subject. The person here is asking us to muddle our art in with a fear message. How could our art possibly benefit from this arrangement and further the goals of the PSA? What your asking us, oh my brother, is to be the Beethoven in the background behind the Ludivico experiments.

[visualove]

The dance community is about family - it is a manifestation of "Urban Tribes" , also a book . Where there are people in their teens and 20's there will be drugs, including alcohol.

I have found at underground parties people are taking care of one another. The tremendous creativity of VJ's, DJ's, space shapers is sustained by the real "family values" of the community.

People in their teens and 20's have very sensitive crap detectors for television. Holly's original comment about the credibility 60's visuals to people who were born between 1980 and 1990 is spot on. If you want to make a PSA - aim it at the parents who are lacking family values like love, responsibility, communication, respect and educating their kids. (And let's keep birth control, sex education and choice legal in the US...)

As for professional values, the original requestor seems lacking, maybe we need PSA's to promote more ethical business practices!

(On the other hand, if this PSA is made, it can be culture jam-sampled, just like all the past goofy anti drug messages!)

[visualove]

A clean cut fellow toting black book walks into pulsing dance party. We will call him Mephistopheles.

The sea of dancers parts for the man as he approaches the VJ. Music fades so we can hear the conversation between the two. (that is not entirely realistic...)

[Mephistopheles] "I have a deal for you, create some lame visuals, which have nothig to do with your current creative artistry, for a cause you might not even believe in, on a short time schedule, for free"

[VJ] "Could you explain exactly why I should do this?"

[Mephistopheles] "You will gain great respect in a narrow segment of the production business that may hurt your career in the future."

[VJ] "I am sorry, that sounds like a poor choice, I have my respect."

Mephistopheles stomps foot and vanishes in a puff of smoke.

The End

[littlecatalyst]

...just in case anyone is interested in the old school stylee (as opposed to the politics of a) working for free b) doing drug free PSAs....) i would suggest that you get in touch with the folks at Dimention7 in SF... see, they're pals with the "Brotherhood of Light" VJs.

BoL are old school old hippie style... they have 2 peeps on the team, way nice guys BTW, one send a feed off two oil projectrs hooked into a V4 and then the other guy hets that feed, mixes it into an mx50 and another v4 (think he might also have an ae5) and an array with 9 dvds.... they mix everything in there with oils (stuff that they traded... like the KILLAH Spotworks and other bay area vis...) these guys are oldschool.... do visuals for the allman brothers (whats left of them) and "The Dead" (formerly known as the grateful dead -minus the furry guy). While it is oldschool and has that 60's vibe.. the tweakery thatthey do to the oils brings to it a contemporary flava...

...one thing; i dont know if they would work for free or consider doing an antidrug PSA.. but anyone else looking for this flavour might do well contacting the Brotherhood of Light.