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Old 19th June 2009, 10:20 AM
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Default Woman illegally downloads 24 songs, fined to tune of $1.9 million


http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06...ine/index.html

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  • Federal jury finds Jammie Thomas-Rasset guilty of illegally downloading 24 songs
  • Minnesota wife, mom slapped with fine of $80,000 per song, for total of $1.9 million
  • Attorney saysclient shocked at fine, noting the songs costs 99 cents each
Spokeswoman for the Recording Industry Association of America lauds jury's finding
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Old 19th June 2009, 01:22 PM
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There are so few details here in this article. Really she lied under oath many times about having been on Kazaa (or even knowing what is was) and even that the hard disc (from what i understand when she got a kazaa message from the RIAA she swapped her hard drive out at a best buy store but they still had the original) was the same one in the machine until these were proved.

Also she "paper on Napster in college—a paper in which she concluded that Napster's original incarnation was legal under US law." She was clued up enough to know what she was doing.

Also they had evidence that there where potential sharing of 1,700 tracks (in the share list I imagine)

I imagine part of the massive costs of the fine have these and many more as factors.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...or-misstep.ars
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...-apologize.ars
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Some legal advice...
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Old 19th June 2009, 09:54 PM
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I am so glad that swedes elected Pirate Party member to the EU Parliament. Maybe it will help to end this copyright madness one day at least in Europe.
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Maybe it will help to end this copyright madness one day at least in Europe.
Elected or not, taking someones work without permission or payment is wrong.
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Old 20th June 2009, 12:40 PM
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Elected or not, taking someones work without permission or payment is wrong.
No one is talking about taking, it's copying that is at issue.

Or in this case making something available for copying by others.
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Old 20th June 2009, 01:29 PM
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Back in the early days of mp3's the case was made that downloading mp3's is like listening to the radio, except that the radio only plays the music the payola lets them play (all shows are playlisted, ie you play x number off playlist 1 x off 2, and if your really good you get to play one of your own choice) Playlists are decided in meetings with producers and researchers, who listen through all the new tunes they've been given.
Once it was possible to listen to the other tunes off an lp. all the filler they stuck on there to maximise their profits became tracks that people didnt want therefore lp sales went down and people cheery pick the songs they like. This is what the labels don't like, they also wanted to make as much money selling mp3 versions of songs you've already paid for like they did with cd's. If they'd invested the money they made off cd's into artist development we'd have more good music, but they stuck it up they're noses.
In the 90's I pretty much stopped buying new music, because I couldn't find any new artists I liked, all the hyped up NME shite bored me, when I discoved mp3's I found a load of bands with no promotion from the corporates making great music and started buying records again. The industry's opinion is bullshit they want money for nothing again, they now want cuts of merch sales whereas they used to refuse tour support for bands, that money that would have gone to people like us guys...
FUCK the music industry, roll on bands selling music direct to fans...
Having said that am I the only one who buys records of artists they like, as I actually want to give them something for their work?
Mp3's no more affect the industry than tapes did, they just help consumers see past the bullshit of advertising, maybe thats why they want them controlled?
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I don't know what the music industry are complaining about.
they can always go back to selling records if they are so concerned about piracy.
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About this case - it nauseates me to hear this kind of example public hangings. What a bunch of low life.
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