Some interesting shit

[asterix]

http://www.spraci.net/news/articles/333.html


that is if you've got time to read it all...

[starixiom]

GREAT ARTICLE!!


Must read for anyone associated with multimedia in any capacity.


best line:

"Total synchronicity of all visual objects to sonic parts should reduce the dazzle effect to zero."


Any thoughts or Coments?

[holly]

Finally, and at the risk of invoking some controversy, I really doubt that other genres of music are composed of sufficiently forward-looking individuals to even conceive of an AVS art form, much less put it into practise. Is such a thing going to emerge from the New School Breaks scene? From R 'n' B? I doubt it....

I'm sure lavalamps and blacklights were considered earth-shattering in the days of the Greatful Dead. I'm sorry but HOW old is this kid? "In my experience..."

AVS performances in media date back to the turn of the century. Probably earlier. Ever hear of this bizarre artform called Ballet? I hear all the people dress up in wild costumes and rehearse and rehearse until they can make little abstract movements exactly in synch with the music. Oooooh.

There was another quote, but I can't find it now. Something about these ideas only being touched at and never fully realised before. Checking the author date I'm surprised to see it was published in May of 2003. Maybe someone should hand him a copy of VJo or Videodelic or introduce him to Kijk & Luister (aka Skyvat).

Complete synchronisity is fun for a very short time in a sterile-Eurosynth way, but I prefer to have a little jazz soul working in counterpoint to all that clockwork.

[Amukidi]

"Total synchronicity of all visual objects to sonic parts should reduce the dazzle effect to zero."

Never a truer word spoken. Folks talk about MIDI as if its the only way to sychronise sound and vision.......

[robotfunk]

Hm interesting article, reminds me a lot of a thesis I wrote years ago (in art academy) on various ways to make visuals respond to music.

What keeps it from being a great article is the author's obsession with techno and MIDI. MIDI is a good tool but not the universal language that can bind all media.

Techno music, the cutting edge of electronic dance music

Take rhythm: the subdivision of time gets ever more fantastically complex in dance music--micro-syncopations, asymmetrical rhythmic patterns riddled with hesitations, multiple tiers of polyrhythm. (And it's not just the drums and the bass-- most of the musical elements in dance records, from the keyboards to the vocals, are rhythmatized and function as cogs in the groove).

This cracks me up. I consider techno music among the most rhythmically poor genres ever. Not that the rhythm is hard to dance to, quite the contrary. But its probably the most rhytmically simple music, and that is exactly the reason why it works.

That said, still a big part of my show is getting visuals synced to the music. Don't use it as much as I used to, but that was the reason I started making flowmotion etc. Only rhythm is just one of many musical aspects you can react to visually.

[sleepytom]

1234,1234,1234,1234,1234,1234,1234,1234,
1234,1234,1234,1234,1234,1234,1234,1234,
1234,1234,1234,1234,1234,1234,1234,1234,

[zap25]

Using a MIDI audio source to sync video events to audio events isn't a revolutionary new concept. But it's one that hasn't been put into practice often.
I've seen it once in the early nineties, where 16 Atari TT's were synced using the SMPTE time to sync sequencers. These sequencers were adapted to not only generate music but also visuals completely in sync.

The problem is that MIDI is hardly used in live performances. A more commonly chosen method is using a Mixing table to allow live mixing of a multitrack recording.

If those bloody DJs would abandon those archaic dark vinyl recording media and go digital like the rest of the world + dog it would open up some options.
Using the mpeg4 format one could expand the audio track with an "event" track similar to Midi (there's something like that in the mpeg4 audio spec, but I'm not an expert) then a VJ could decide to hook clips in a certain video channel to certain events (fade in/outs, pitch change etc. etc.)

Sure as hell beats beat detection.

[zap25]

And by the by:

THERE IS COMPLEX TECHNO

Goshdarnit. When I heard the first techno coming out of Detroit I heard people doing stuff that could fit right into the Jazz category.
Too bad I completely missed that era since I was just about to go to elementry at the time.

In Europe they completely took all the funk out of it. Resulting in that wretched 4-2-floor.

[robotfunk]

True, detroit techno is a lot more interesting than what is known as techno these days. Still even a jazzy track like 'bug in the bassbin' is still 4/4 at heart. If you compare jazz or arabian music that's a bit more complex already. I dont think really complex rhythms work anyway on the dancefloor, fear my rhythms are too freaky for most ppl.

Let's not turn this into a techno bashing session, I love good techno and have been playing it for over 12 years, the detroitish variety and modern variants. But dare I say detroit has become a trainspotter mecca, and that really there hasnt been coming much revolutionary new stuff the past few years ... the really interesting stuff from detroit at the moment for me is ppl like carl craig getting back to jazz/funk roots

Oh and MIDI is used live A LOT.

[Lara]

Techno is best WONKY!

http://www.uglyfunk.com