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Old 10th September 2008, 02:31 PM
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and aren't they fantastic. people don't want nuclear bombs, but they want what massive load of radioactive stuff to produce their leccy.

anyway, physics class was a load of bull. and it still doesn't stop all the problems in the world.
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Old 10th September 2008, 02:41 PM
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If I ever get rich Im going to study particle physics - far too interesting.
Perhaps even more interesting than the higgs particle, is being able to put this chaps theory of everything to the test.
interesting pun for a vj forum remember the TOE vj crew from Melbs?
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Old 10th September 2008, 02:58 PM
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the world has problems because humans are human.

If, for example, the boffins can get cold fusion to work off the back of the LHC experiments, then pollution may become a thing of the past.
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Old 10th September 2008, 03:06 PM
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I will be forever in debt to Sky news and the demonstration of a mince pie detector

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/vid...Hainze%2BWollf

It all makes sense now

Oh and whilst mentioning Fusion reseach it seems they have solved the 9/11 mystery of why the steel weakened in the way it did - good old science eh!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7607473.stm


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Scientists say an understanding of how the Twin Towers collapsed will help them develop the materials needed to build fusion reactors
. New research shows how steel will fail at high temperatures because of the magnetic properties of the metal.
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Old 10th September 2008, 03:15 PM
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yes, it seems somewhat primitive .."Oi! yous guys! lets smash these particles up and take some photographs! hahahaha!" - then someone gives them six billion dollars to do so ..... and yet, it really is integral information. with the information, they can prove or disprove a couple of theories, and also learn about subatomic building blocks ... and once you understand Lego, you can build your own ... well, you can make lots of things.

it may indeed provide insight into nanotechnology ...

the "diamondoid" age is nearly upon us .. where the phrase "diamondoid material" will be included in dictionaries as the revolutionary flexible, unbreakable, malleable, form-remembering, interactive material.

the iron age, the industrial age, the information age... and the Diamondoid Material age ... it has been predicted for at least ten years now.
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Old 10th September 2008, 03:46 PM
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the iron age, the industrial age, the information age... and the Diamondoid Material age ... it has been predicted for at least ten years now.
so has the end of the world

anyway, it still wont solve REAL problems, not 'oh i'm bored of this material, lets make a new one'. working out how steel can bend isn't going to stop global warming. it will just further it, having to use all that energy, matrials and co2.

the whole LHC excersise is plain ridiculas. the world and it's governments need to sort out their priorities. discovering how the world came about should be left until after we can make sure the world will survive and everything is running well.
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Old 10th September 2008, 05:36 PM
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maybe you haven't noticed but the people running the global economy have bet the whole farm on science being able to find all the answers to today's problems. If scientists don't experiment, then there wont be any answers, the fuel will run out, then the food will run out and then everyone will start shooting.

It may be a load of tosh, but a few billion is just the cost of a couple of days bang bang in Iraq. Given that, I'd rather give them the chance than just sit and wait for the inevitable.
Think about it.. if we can turn hydrogen into helium and produce enormous energy, just like in the sun, and the planet is 2/3rds water... there is enough to keep things going forever..
even if they can't there is every chance something else will be discovered.
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I was so lucky my dad helped with school science and electricity experiments when I was like age 10. I could have used more early math. So if you find yourself someday with kids, maybe you can introduce them early to that stuff.

For those ridiculing science research, www was invented at CERN to help them put all their research online in an accessible way. Before that the Internet was pretty geeky. like ftp and telnet. If you think the pace of discoveries will slow, that we have discovered everything, I think you will be shocked by the future.

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besides, how could i possibly find the time to vj AND consider theoretical physics.
you can believe me, it's not easy... fulltime physics research job and vjing on the side, not good for your sleep budget...

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just noticed all this fooferah on the telly .. haha ... actually, they might still explode the universe, or at least the mountain they are situated under.

they have only sent one beam of heavily loaded photons in one direction... next beam of photons from the other direction, in a few days...
which mountain? it's pretty flat there
and it's pRotons.. while maybe nitpicking, it's a fundamental difference... you couldn't accelerate photons with the LHC

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where did billions come from all of a sudden, for something that lets be honest, isn't going to find a solution to these issues by smashing a bunch or atoms together is it now.
who said anything about "all of a sudden"?
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anyway, it still wont solve REAL problems, not 'oh i'm bored of this material, lets make a new one'. working out how steel can bend isn't going to stop global warming. it will just further it, having to use all that energy, matrials and co2.

the whole LHC excersise is plain ridiculas. the world and it's governments need to sort out their priorities. discovering how the world came about should be left until after we can make sure the world will survive and everything is running well.
you're kidding right? by the way, from CERN came serious advances, among the more memorable the _internet_(as visualove already mentioned), mass computing (who renders your videos, again?), medical imaging (saving all those lives, yeah, totally unnecessary...
but i bet you would also say that spaceflight is a waste of resources while you polish the Teflon cover of your shiny new GPS, and watching satellite tv...
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Old 10th September 2008, 10:47 PM
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that's far out.. you're a vj and a physics research scientist ... nice one!

i thought their lab was located under a big mountain.
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