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Old 10th September 2008, 01:21 AM
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When they flip the switch on the old LHC. Apparently if you think so your a TWAT!

I've watched Bryan Cox's rather awesome TED talk and his program on BBC Four the other day (it's still on iplayer, hurry up)

Wonder if they'll work out what happened at the big bang. Then I can phone all my God fearing friends and laugh at them.
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Old 10th September 2008, 02:11 AM
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If I ever get rich Im going to study particle physics - far too interesting.
Perhaps even more interesting than the higgs particle, is being able to put this chaps theory of everything to the test.
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Old 10th September 2008, 02:13 AM
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i think experimental science is secondary to fundamental science(breaking down things down to structures that expressed by maths) which would be the option to solve the issues that they are facing to uncover.
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Old 10th September 2008, 02:45 AM
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The LHC is a wonderful thing. whilst the results could possibly pose more questions than answers, its exactly the kind of thing that keeps us developing as a human race. more knowledge = more questions = more searching = more knowledge and so on.

i like this type of science, it is ace i just wish i had a better mind for it when i was at school as id have realy liked to have gone down this avenue, but i fear its getting a little too late for me to start now. besides, how could i possibly find the time to vj AND consider theoretical physics.
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Old 10th September 2008, 01:52 PM
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just noticed all this fooferah on the telly .. haha ... actually, they might still explode the universe, or at least the mountain they are situated under.

they have only sent one beam of heavily loaded photons in one direction... next beam of photons from the other direction, in a few days...

however the really interesting phase will be when they do what the collider was built for ... to send two beams around the circuit from opposite directions ...
to see what happens when they collide. there's a series a massive magnets ready to monitor and/or capture any ultra-small particles ... and that's what it is all about, they have theories about ultra-small particles, they just want to find some.
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Old 10th September 2008, 02:04 PM
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When they flip the switch on the old LHC. Apparently if you think so your a TWAT!

I've watched Bryan Cox's rather awesome TED talk and his program on BBC Four the other day (it's still on iplayer, hurry up)

Wonder if they'll work out what happened at the big bang. Then I can phone all my God fearing friends and laugh at them.
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well, you wouldn't like it if your 'God fearing friends' laughed at you if it were to be proved that the big bang didn't happened. Anyway, no one can really know that the big bang even happened, because obviously no one here on this earth,now, was there when it 'happened' were they?

And who's to say the 'big bang' wasn't caused by God, (if he or she exists)?

I heard this once:
"It's better to believe in God than to not believe in God, because if it turns out that God does exist, your screwed. If it turns out that God doesn't exist then your fine"

"Science only makes progress when a theory is falsified, rather than a theory being confirmed, for it is only by rejecting and modifying a theory, to account for new evidence, that something better is put in it's place"


For many, many years the top scientists and astronomers believed that the earth was flat and came up with many theories supporting this idea. Eventually they proved themselves wrong and changed their ideas to support the claim that the earth was infact round.


What if this latest experiment is inconclusive? What if it 'proves' that there wasn't a big bang?

Don't take one line with things, believing everything that you are told. You can never know that anything is 'true' or 'real' until you can 'prove' beyond doubt that it is.

I find it quite amazing that everything in the world is so intricate, so minute in detail, so well "designed" to do it's job. For instance, everyt living thing on this planet has the urge to need to reproduce. I can't think of any plant or animal that doesn't do this. From the tiniest bacteria to the largest whales. It's pretty cool I think.
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Old 10th September 2008, 02:05 PM
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guys the particles wont start colliding for 6 weeks i think they said...

all they did was turn it on, to do all the peliminary tests to see if its okay to go.


God created the universe anyway.. so they can go on and play with there 100 billion toys all they like.... and tell me that we're aliens from farkin Iran for all i care... is all funny to me all the same!

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I've created a few billion of these


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and also, what a waste of money. The poorest people in the world are starving, theres not enough food, not enough fuel not enough anything any more. Where did all the money go? well it could be people being greedy and throwing away too much food, it could be the americans and their mortgages.

where did billions come from all of a sudden, for something that lets be honest, isn't going to find a solution to these issues by smashing a bunch or atoms together is it now.

"LHC ends world hunger, solves the credit crunch, stops global warming, re freezes the polar ice caps, stops thousands of species going extint, grows more food, ends the obesity epidemic, cures AIDs/cancer, stops teenage pregnacy all in one day!"

as Frankie Boyle said on Mock the week, about the outcome of the "experiment", 'I don't actually give a f**k'.
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oh dear.
someone was asleep in physics class.

Those nuclear powerstations, you know the ones that produce all that electricity, well they create all that electricity by smashing atoms instead of using coal, which is like, fuel dude...
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