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Old 26th May 2006, 12:41 AM
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Thumbs up VJ's works in art galery ?!!

I don't know much about VJing world and my questions to your community can sounds strange.
So, does any VJs work has ever been exposed in an art galery.
Is there some VJ in a video-art collection, is there some collectors or aesthetic specialists interested by your researchs. I'm looking for all infos about cross over: VJ/contemporary art world. Thanks for your help.
(and maybe, am I in the best place on the site to ask this help? )
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Old 26th May 2006, 01:23 AM
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Hiya

There are quite a few people doing this. First and foremost to my mind (in terms of art credentials and approach) is Mark Amerika.

Gerald van der Kaap has had a major exhibition in the Stedelijk (and seems largely ignored in the VJ world).

Johnny Dekam is quite an important figure in the fine arts arena -- not only for his work with NATO and his creation of Vidvox, but also for his performances.

Finally, do a search for "expanded cinema" on Google. This is the term typically used in the fine arts world for VJing. Andrea Juno coined the term (I believe), and is your main writer on the subject.

There are also many of the usual suspects doing crossover from clubland, which I'll leave to others to post.

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Old 26th May 2006, 10:44 AM
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Gerald van der Kaap.. is a legend... his massive juke box project is true interactive VJ'in...

I'm working on system that watches the dance floor with a motion dector and plays Visual loops based on people dancing...

the audience influnces the visuals..

I know this is somewhat cutting out the middle man.. but for a one off experiment it should be quite cool...

Gerald van der Kaap is one of my heros...so wish i could make it out to see his work...

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Old 26th May 2006, 11:09 AM
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light surgeons are currently on show until august in a london museum..

http://www.domestic-archaeology.com/...ction=1&page=8
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Old 26th May 2006, 11:57 AM
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Might Have to check that out next week when i'm down there.
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Old 26th May 2006, 01:07 PM
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I've had installations in various galleries and one museum-exhibition so far: Dansmachine3.1 at the Rijksmuseum Twenthe (2003).
http://www.rijksmuseum-twenthe.nl/te...nsmachine.html (dutch)

I think for many VJs there will be a moment the desire for more autonomous and independant work will increase. Galleries offer the opportunity to live out that dream.
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Old 26th May 2006, 01:36 PM
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I like art galleries, I really do, however I have always been disappointed (I used to be surprised) at the lack of digital computer generated art there. I had hoped places liek the Tate Modern would show this stuff when it first opened in a time (back when I didn't create anything)

Maybe because technology changes so quickly they never have a chance to have a sustainable installation. There will always be something "better" that the artist can make the next year with more technology knowledge. The shelf life would be low.

Maybe because all the art gallery people are so far behind the times they will never embrace new technologies/methods in their world.

Maybe it is seen as just geeky.

I don't know the answer and I would happily discuss this issue with the more arty types here over a beer.

However this attitude of most of the "art world" has led me to be more dismissive and critical toward them and installations. It appears that most art rather than breaking down boundaries and exploring new frontiers they conform to the old stereotypes.


True there may be a few exceptions but I hazard a guess those are not at the cutting edge of there game in a peer review and most mentioned here will do sampling not create original digital art. Shame really………

Also from another thread.

http://www.vjforums.com/showthread.php?t=14844&page=3

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No, my mix sets of eclectic video aren't going to be shown in the Louvre. But neither are Rova's audiovisualization sets. That's because they're ephemereal art. My exhibited skill is as a performance artist.
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Old 26th May 2006, 01:43 PM
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It's an online thing mainly but doing some cool work to raise the profile of digital artists and VJ's ..

http://www.rhizome.org


I'm personally interested in this kinda thing.. because as my addy kinda gives it away, i'm trying to sort out an UK based "inclusive interactive street festival" .. not something in a few galleries and venues.. but out there in public space.. connecting with Joe Bloggs and basiclly raising the profile of the art forms.

I was planning to run it this year 06.. but due to work and Uni comitments and the time needed i think it will have to wait till next summer now...07

Imagine big screens in squares all over the UK.. interactive works... and events, club nights... etc. going on over the space of one weekend and it all being mainly free...

A lot of work to be done... but if there's a will there's a way... anyone else wanna join in the dream???

pardon my rushed typing and typo's

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Old 27th May 2006, 05:04 AM
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I'm an artist working in Oakland. My partner and I both do fine art (painting/sculpture/glass etc), showing traditional works nationally (US). I've also been involved in media arts since the 80's, and worked for several years at the Center for New Television in Chicago.

While we do some club oriented gigs, most of our video work focuses on stuff that is, erm, more welcomed in alternative/raw art spaces. We also do installational works that incorporate a lot of processed video.

I like the flexibility afforded by the software tools or image manipulation designed for VJ use. I also find the discussions here useful.

VJing and club shows can take a lot of creative energy to put together, especially when making work that is engaging to an audience. No different that way than coming at it from a gallery scene.
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Old 27th May 2006, 12:39 PM
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I don't know much about VJing world and my questions to your community can sounds strange.
So, does any VJs work has ever been exposed in an art galery.
Is there some VJ in a video-art collection, is there some collectors or aesthetic specialists interested by your researchs. I'm looking for all infos about cross over: VJ/contemporary art world. Thanks for your help.
(and maybe, am I in the best place on the site to ask this help? )
hello....i'm pretty new round here and to this VJ lark.....

my first VJ job was at an art exhibition called "dreams of ours" in leeds

i did an AV set of visuals i had made myself and tunes i'd created.....that really gave me the bug to do it more and now seem to be in demand all over the place......i do think that a lot of visuals can be "ART" for galleries too.
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