London under attack, and what we can do to end terrorism

[littlecatalyst]

thanks for the pirates bay link! fun fun....

personally even though i am ovbiously one pegged down as a tinfoiler, i dont believe in consiracies... to me its much more like that book title, "a confederacy of dunces" you know, theres a convergence of greed, self interest, hubris and the other deadly sinz.... but no cigarette smoking man, and the rothchildes are more interested in wine than ruling the worlds events ((or maybe they are shape shifting lizards but still stupid losers as compared
to the infinite knowlege -and sense of humor-- of the cosmos))

So, direktor, is it in our minds? that's a possibility.. i mean especially since i finally saw what teh bleep do we know.. where they postulate (as have many a guru an dboohoo) that all these things are outer manifestations of our inner self.... so if the mind thinks it... the cosmos creates it. So i guess if that's where we end up in this polisci circle jerk, kewel, it's our fault. cause we dont think enough of our own selves. so all we gotta do is love ourselves and it will all go away... nice. like john lennin said, all you need is love..... yay!

[littlecatalyst]

Originally posted by 3YE
he is no more in charge of 'the system' than Lance Armstrong is in charge of the Tour De France. or to put it another way, Bush is just a player, not the gamemaster. however,

[holly]

:P har har har.
Conspiracy of Dunces. That one I believe!

I still don't get the "it's our fault because we don't love ourselves". It's just a bit too close to: "God punishes us because we are faithless", or the eco-Gaia version: "If you waste the Earth's resources then primitive people (the protectors of Mother Earth) will give you the spiritual whammy". Did you ever see that Australian film THE WAVE...? I mean it's all bound up in this "I am the center of the universe and my actions have consequences on world affairs" mantra of self-importance. Egocentric, it just manifests different self-sin scenarios based on the individual's philosophy.

It is apparently too late to divert the Titanic we call modern living to smoothly transition from oil to other forms of energy.... I'm not sure that the collapse of the oil market would end all MiddleEast violence, but it would probably take a lot of the funding out of it (our side of the war that is). But how long before China and India need oil? Is that maybe the "real" conflict? That US and Euro have competition at the dinner table? We are calling dibs before the next coldwar starts.

Is newculer all that bad? Can't the waste be launched into the sun instead of being converted into stockpile weapons? Solar blows unless you live in Arizona. If I bought an old Russian warhead on the blackmarket could I run my studio off it indefinately?

[littlecatalyst]

Originally posted by holly
Solar blows unless you live in Arizona. If I bought an old Russian warhead on the blackmarket could I run my studio off it indefinately?

no it doesnt! ok it wont work where you live.... but even over the bridge like on skyvat's house it would totally work.... some guy up here (in chilly canada brrrr) just put a whackload of solar shingles on his roof, they're sposda produce 15-18W ea (he has 150 on the roof which does him fine) and guess what up here he's getting 21W each.

what blows about it has been the reluctance of the industry to deal with oit like any other thing (like a car ferinstance-- how many woudl be bought daily if there was no financing? or houses... but you're (up to now) expected to drop $16K on your system? but that is changing fast! ...a new company from Maryland (Sun Edison) just started rolling out a plan where they put all teh panels up on your roof, you pay nothing and just agree to buy electricity from them till its paid off(+) then its yours to keep..... it has not been practicle just because it hasn't been made to be (and the hostory of PV Panels too--- again only a confederacy no consy, but the biggest manufacturers of PV were traditionally owned by oil cos, and they spent most of tehir time suing other manufacturers of panels.... its only been a decade + that they hav etaken it seriously (oh and now what with Japans subsidies, they are now producing 2 panels for every one north american....)

me i'm more excited about shit like the spary-on PV nanofilms that you can spray onto clothes, yor front door.... but still the bottom line is its totally doable, just has a crappy reputation

as for the within/wothout dogma thing-- i dunno-- seems like it does happen... but how can anyone know for sure? anyway thats just what teh WTBDWRK movie said (and some woman i once took a worksho with but i don't know for sure if she was from this dimention.... could never find her afterwards, and was never really sure that i took the (weekend long) workshop at all (?) ity was one of those weird things.... who knows, but at least its the one place where every one individual (f those really exist) can do something.... alther their own thoughts..... we can't dismantle bombs or do hostage negotiations or even talk someone into dropping the coffee can full of nails..... but we can change ourthoughts about our self. In WTBDWRK they talk about this group that organized a massive group meditation month in Washinton DV to drop the crime rate by 25% something the chief of police said was impossible to do not only by meditating but by anything except a 2 foot snowfall.. but when crime dropped by 25% (like they said it would after doing it in 40 previous cities) the chief of police was right into it!

and hey even if it doent change the world and bring about nirvanah, can't hurt ones own self image now can it?