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portal i dont think it was thread/tpoic recycling... but a po
oke: ke at ecotreehuggingvegetarianhippyanarchoveejay folks. but anyway-- im not sure about the slavery issue-- contemporary slavery in places like burma and/or white slave trades? or u mean like 19th century usa/europe>africa? does wage slavery count? also, is it for a club environment? but i do know one thing... one way would be to look to how oliviero toscani dealt with racial disharmony, ok he's not a vj (at least he's not a painter) but i think he did a lot of interesting work in subverting his medium and getting some stuff out there and (at least at the beginning) in a nice, happy and non-threatening way. of course that's for clubs.. ((though golly holly, from the clips ive seen of yours online, and things youve said about your work, i think you do have it in your work)) galleries and theatres (and DVDs, pirate broadcasts, kazaa...) dont have to have that restraint, in fact there is bound to be an audience out there for some material that baltantly preaches to the choir (so as to round up the troops) as well as an audience who wants to learn more about stuff and wants to be challenged (maybe in the future the munts will point and click in the middle of a jamand goto relevant websites that the vj set into the dvdrom). so there, i guess, one could go into the gritty stuff (though it ought to still look amazing and hopefully have a good groove). as for the s/he issues.... holly's right about the jerky boys in clubs and how patriarchy has been pretty downright awful. ((for me at least partially it is a micro/macro deal, and anti female stems from anti gaia behavoiur which has happened ever since civilization took over form culture (but thats a different debate))) i think its fair to say that the 21st century has begun with an abundance of insanity, and every next generation gets *more* everything, including violent, so now its true that there are women and girls who are as violent and piggish as the guys (and in fact more violent and piggish than a lot of the guys here), but that is still a tiny fraction as compared to the rest of the 52% of our global population.. i cringe when i think that the institutionalized violence towards women is the just the tip of the iceberg as incidents like holly described happen probably 5000 times a second on this planet (do the math). and yes portraying storng women and happliy sumissive men is part of the solution, but so is protraying stong men. and like flucht said, that is something that is not present in the media, where storng men are portrayed as schwartzeneger (literally as he can not only be a rich big cigar chomper, but grope chicks and get elected, ultimate power) and yet alls i can think about is how small his dick must be that he needs all of that. that is not stregnth at all. that is total sumission to ego. it's weak men that fuck up the scene. it's weak men that get jealous (prolly know they are't pleasing their woman), and the ones who feel helpless that need to controll others (and if they unable to do it to others at work they do it to wife/kids).... feed their ego by a trophy babe/wife, fear their inadequacey and extend it with big cigars, big cars, big pens (did you ever see those exec pens? christ, 1/2 of goodvibrations product line is smaller than those penis extentions).... that violence is because of weakness. And the violent nature of the past 1000 years generally and the constant and growing need for soldiers and warroirs, so that our happy-accident propaganda machine spews out little rambos, that people have mistaken weakness for stregnth. real strenth has to do with channeling your energy (something that we all do, as creators whether we believe in new age stuff or not) and hasto do with not being a slave to impulses and reactions to stimuli, focus, intent, and as well, stregnth has to do with perception, how one percieves him/herself and how they percieve whats around them (including people, and especially for this conversation the opposite sex or gender they mate with) the old in/out thing. so i do think that this is part of the same thing, not just "holly's politics" ((which come on, its not just her)) but of the thing were talking about in general.... these are the issues we feel something about (often quite strongly). for me they all seem to be interconnected. And we create visuals. the visuals seem to be going beyond the club environment (so there is room for this sort of revolutionary propaganda) and even in the arena of a club, there are ways to still protray the things we care about and make positive impressions without killing the party (without anyone noticing outright but picking up on it would be the best imo) jeezuz i think this is the longest post i have ever written |
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ok so tha last thing i wrote here seemd to have been a thread killer, sorry about that (not to tally sure what i said, but i stand by it) but ANYWAY i was thinking about this thread a few days ago, and thought about all these parties that i like to play that are unconventional and where i can get away with showing peaceful struggles and stuff like that, and im sure that you folks have seen these as well; in Quebec we stopped the government for a full 24 hours by circling the government buildings (our capitals easy, tehyre all bunched together) playing drums, smiling and talking with folks. no violence at all... lotsa puppets. that kind of stuff is fun to shoot and remix live....
my absolute fav is to use stuff from those East Village garden zelots in new york that happens every spring, check out their slideshow, http://earthcelebrations.com/springslideshow.htm youll see there are ways to give props to the people/struggles you need without showing the bad side (the opposite side would be the nasty developper with his cigar paving over these public oases, but why bother... look at how dynamic the good stuff is........ (((sure its not club fodder, but the kids in loft parties love this shit))) |
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VJcentral ....
are we a political underground cuminity ? i like it
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