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Old 21st June 2004, 09:11 AM
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hey charlie,
how hard would it be for you to mod out a V5, so that I would have headphone monitor on each of the V5's 2 audio channel's?
I still think the V5 could be retrofitted to do A/V mixing, and it does crossfade audio and video with one crossfeder knob, and does have an aux stereo input, Mic input, and headphone jack..

Surely some of those audio function's could be mod to do seperate chan. headphone monitoring??
whilst it probably is possable to do this mod you'd be much better off selling the v5 and getting a V4 in combination with a dj mixer with a midi xfade mod - this is a much better solution as you get not only proper headphone monitoring and pfl but also a much better video mixer with 4inputs 2tbcs and the ability to assign the busses properly

the v5 really is a shite mixer - do yourself a favor and sell it whilst its still worth something - with the right style of ebay ad you'll pretty much cover the cost of the V4 with it.'
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Old 21st June 2004, 01:02 PM
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whilst it probably is possable to do this mod you'd be much better off selling the v5 and getting a V4 in combination with a dj mixer with a midi xfade mod - this is a much better solution as you get not only proper headphone monitoring and pfl but also a much better video mixer with 4inputs 2tbcs and the ability to assign the busses properly

the v5 really is a shite mixer - do yourself a favor and sell it whilst its still worth something - with the right style of ebay ad you'll pretty much cover the cost of the V4 with it.'

hahaha that's a good one tom..
let's see.
you want me to sell the V5,(400 bucks maybe)
spend another 800 bucks on a V4(with no audio features whats so ever, buy a DJ mixer that is somehow supposed to sync the audio to the video,
(another few hundred)..
and what will that get me?
2 pices of gear to lug around, and still nothing new..

Hmm, soooo
"whom out there will run with the hunt"!

Tom's views on the V5 are well documented here on this forum..
I think he is really the only true outspoken critic of the V5's..

I look at the V5's as becoming the TB303 of video mixer's..
As some of you might remember, when Roland released the TB303, it was a commercial flop..
Noone was going to use the TB303 for what it was originally designed for...(electronic version of the bass guitar)

Well just look what some talent and energy will do..
TB303's are rare, hard to find. and prolly cost about double what there MSRP was..

And, look who was befind both the TB303's, and the V5..Roland!

Now it is Edirol(the lamest A/V company on the planet)
I can absolutly guarentee the Edirol V4's will never become a TB303 in status, because Edirol is just a 2nd rate wanna be player in a big boy's game..

so Tom,
I know, I will never bring you around to the V5, but I would just say, that some brilliant individual is going to come around someday, mod out the V5, and turn it into classic A/V mixer..
So when the V5 doubles it's value in a few year's, I for one, will be sure glad I didn't take Tom's advice here, and sell the V5..

BTW, since starting the
VJShowreels" webcast on PirateTV, the V5 has worked nicely in mixing the A/V clip's I play, and better than the old 2 mixer system, without a doubt..
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Old 21st June 2004, 01:10 PM
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I look at the V5's as becoming the TB303 of video mixer's..
Just curious to what you forsee for my Panasonic WJ-MX10 becoming, besides broken.
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Old 21st June 2004, 01:36 PM
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Just curious to what you forsee for my Panasonic WJ-MX10 becoming, besides broken.
prolly the same as our MX-10..
Mod'ed, but still gathering dust on a shelf..

The MX50's(the tec12's of video mixing) might
make it to TB303 status, but i doubt it, as they are so big and to hard to get on a plane..
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pah - rubbish - your assumtion that having an audio / video mixer combintion with proper PFL / Headphones / audio effects would not improve your performance is incorrect - i can show you tricks using the V4/DJmixer mod that are impossable to achive using any other technology and are really essential for creative av performance.

the v5 is not a good mixer even if the audio worked properly you would still be serverly limmited by the single channel tbc / frame sync.

for audio mixing its less good than a mx50 / mx30 / av7

for video mixing it is less good than almost every mixer ever made (even the bloody mx1 is better)

V5 = TB303 my arse

the only thing close to the cult status of the 303 in the VJ world is the Fairlight CVI or possibly the Chromascope

for something with even more cult status try and get a CVI producer (the white one) or even better one of the hidef hollywood CVIs that were rummoured to of been built.
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pah - rubbish - your assumtion that having an audio / video mixer combintion with proper PFL / Headphones / audio effects would not improve your performance is incorrect
who said that?You lost me here mate?? How would having the proper audio monitoring not help a A/V mix?


- i can show you tricks using the V4/DJmixer mod that are impossable to achive using any other technology and are really essential for creative av performance.
show me mate Show me
the v5 is not a good mixer even if the audio worked properly you would still be serverly limmited by the single channel tbc / frame sync.
Tom, you have oviously never got into the V5, yet you think you know all there is about it...
I sugest you try to find someone over there in the UK, that know's how to manipulate a VJ properly b4 you make such bold statements..


for audio mixing its less good than a mx50 / mx30 / av7

for video mixing it is less good than almost every mixer ever made (even the bloody mx1 is better)

V5 = TB303 my arse
Well I certainly don't see your arse as = TB303

the only thing close to the cult status of the 303 in the VJ world is the Fairlight CVI or possibly the Chromascope

Well for one, The CVI isn't a Roland, so it would be hard for me to compare to the TB303, and for 2, The CVI is a huge monster, that no traveling VJ would want to lug around, and (I could be wrong) but the CVI doesn't even handle audio, so where and how does that compare to the TB303?

for something with even more cult status try and get a CVI producer (the white one) or even better one of the hidef hollywood CVIs that were rummoured to of been built.
Tom, I have a feeling it isn't the V5 that bring's on
such a pewtrid response, but some bias much deeper and more resentful on your part..

I mean does anyone else hate the V5 as much on this forum?
If so, speak out and be heard..
Most ppl here have prolly never even worked a V5..
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the only thing close to the cult status of the 303 in the VJ world is the Fairlight CVI or possibly the Chromascope

for something with even more cult status try and get a CVI producer (the white one) or even better one of the hidef hollywood CVIs that were rummoured to of been built.
Hmmm so I guess having one of each makes me practically a cult legend or a museum piece :P

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Tom's views on the V5 are well documented here on this forum..
I think he is really the only true outspoken critic of the V5's..
well add a second then pixy. I think the V-5 is junk too. If half of the V-5's features worked well enough to use, it'd be a shit-hot mixer, but IMO they don't. I could almost see something like the MX-1 becoming another TB303, but not the V-5, it's just junk.

If you can somehow mod it to be a decent A/V mixer, more power to you, but I'd think you'd be better off with Numark's new A/V mixer.
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Old 23rd June 2004, 12:34 AM
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i have a v5 and i luv it!!

may be it's not the best mixr in the world and if it's going to be a legend or not.. i don't know!
but i sure did and still have a lot of fun playing with it!
the chroma is nice and the luma and invert luma is one really nice function i do appreciate!

the thing is and will b 4ever: there are things that r precious to us that others don?t value (vice-versa).

(btw- mx1 suX! heheheh!)


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I just see RoLand on it, and relize that the V5 and the TB303 both have something in common...

Most of the "expert's" wrote off both, (partly because both didn't conform to the industry made music/video that they were engineered to do..) but yet there is room for the V5 to be "Re-invented by some wizkid .."
I have done the lo-level tweek's already with the MX10, and that just doesn't do it for me..."I want my to tweek my RV5...."
I already know the V5 can simultaneously crossfader both audio and video quite well,(although you will never get above a TV resolution of the audio, because @ 25 or 30 FPS audio mix rate, the A/V crossfade is low resolution when compared to the millions of samples that you get audioto crossfade @ per sec)

All I need to do is mod in some wireing and little push button switches to tap into the audio headphone output, I'm sure it would be a piece of cake for some sodering iron wizkid here that can read schematics well...

Come on, Whom among you will run with the hunt?
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