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Old 14th June 2002, 03:37 AM
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Lightbulb A small poll about the VJ marketplace in your city!

Due some comments on the chat a few days ago about the VJCentral forum community, with VJ members from almost all of the 5 continents but clearly with a 95% or more coming from USA & Europe, I was wondering the reason of that and although I know there are a zillion of factors for these results, I want to focus on this fact:
1.- Maybe there are thousands of expert and experienced VJs from Central & South America, Asia even Africa who are not members of VJCentral... some reasons among others could be the awareness of the VJCentral site existence and the knowledge of the English language, but probably it is more a matter of your credence and confidence if you could be considered or not a VJ, due to the very limited marketplace demand in your city/country, that is indeed what I want to make the poll about.

Obviously should be hard to earn a live only as a VJ (opposite as a DJ), but maybe it could be our fault marketing our product and our services only to the more limited market of Rave promoters/producers and some vanguard open mind club owners, because as you know the music and the DJ is the main product here getting the BIG MONEY, so you can even make a great business arranging a party without any visuals at all, but without music or DJs there is no party... therefore I would like to know how many of you are getting VJ contracts from others sources like Advertising Agencys, Fashion Events & Parades, New products promotions, Fairs & Expositions, Etc.

The questions are as follow:
1) City and country where you live?
2) Your average service price list as a VJ?
3) Are your fees per Hour or a whole Party/Event package based?
4) Are you supplying also the projectors/screens in your price?
5) How many of your contracts comes from Raves, Clubs, Other Events? (Please specify in percents & type of events)
6) How many of your contracts are in your own city, cross your country or International?
7) How much competence you have for good VJ contracts?
8) How many events have you worked for free?
9) How often you collect the money of your fees in advance, 50/50 or at the end of the event?
10) Do you think sometime forward the VJ community could enjoy a similar status like DJs do? (N? of contracts, Travels, Money earning)

Well pals, I hope this poll doesn?t mean so much invasion to your privacy, but I?m sure that of the similar or different reality exposed from our comments, it will be very useful and helpful to make some wise decisions in order to get closer to earn a live only as a good VJ.
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Old 14th June 2002, 07:36 AM
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1.- Maybe there are thousands of expert and experienced VJs from Central & South America, Asia even Africa who are not members of VJCentral...
WHAT ABOUT AUSTRALIA?!?!?!


1) City and country where you live?

Sydney, Australia

2) Your average service price list as a VJ?

Enough

3) Are your fees per Hour or a whole Party/Event package based?

Per hour

4) Are you supplying also the projectors/screens in your price?

No.... do I look like a roadie to you.

5) How many of your contracts comes from Raves, Clubs, Other Events? (Please specify in percents & type of events)

I do club gigs (80%), raves/festivals (20%), and various parties mainly with international DJs when they are in sydney and also hold a couple of small low key residencies @ small club nights. I VERY occationally do custom tapes for bars that have no facility or clientel for a live VJ

6) How many of your contracts are in your own city, cross your country or International?

90% of my shows are in sydney but I have worked in brisbane and melbourne as well and a few places in between, looking @ branching OS very soon, planning tours to NZ and southeast asia.

7) How much competence you have for good VJ contracts?

HUH???

8) How many events have you worked for free?

I normally do 3-4 benefit parties a year depending on the promoter and the worthiness of the cuase involved.

9) How often you collect the money of your fees in advance, 50/50 or at the end of the event?

Currently 100% towards the end of the night on the night, but moving to a 50% before and 50% after arrangement soon

10) Do you think sometime forward the VJ community could enjoy a similar status like DJs do? (N? of contracts, Travels, Money earning)

Definately, but I think we should be pushing for recognition of the actual skills in mixing and material production. If you want to be treated like an artist/DJ you have to start acting like one. Which mean putting on a good performance both skills/content wise but also performance and crowd skills. If you want to be treated like the lighting guy and be party of the production team then sit up the back in a dark corner and tweek knobs. SIMPLE
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Old 14th June 2002, 09:28 AM
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you shouldn't really have a pop at roadies and lighting guys.
Theres alot of programming in a large show nowadays and top l.d's are well respected as well as earn an absolute fortune.
As for 'roadies ', shows dont happen with out them.
On any club cut backs / budget problems for events, its the visuals first to get the chop , never the sound or lights.
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Old 14th June 2002, 09:34 AM
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I wasn't having a go @ them..... they are essential to the night and I have many friends that do it for living, I was talking about it from more of a public profile perpective.
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Old 14th June 2002, 01:47 PM
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Go on ...Tell me the luma key hack for the mx12!!
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Old 14th June 2002, 04:01 PM
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i'm sure morph is aware how unwise it is to upset anyone with the combinations of technical knowledge ,evil sense of humour and lack of respect for pretentious artists to be found in your average roadie

1) City and country where you live?
Brighton uk
2) Your average service price list as a VJ?
same as morph
3) Are your fees per Hour or a whole Party/Event package based?
per event
4) Are you supplying also the projectors/screens in your price?
yes
5) How many of your contracts comes from Raves, Clubs, Other Events? (Please specify in percents & type of events)
clubs 70%
corporate shindigs10%
rave's 20%
6) How many of your contracts are in your own city, cross your country or International?
mostly brighton some london, just one international so far
7) How much competence you have for good VJ contracts?
please explain the question
8) How many events have you worked for free?
will always support any good cause other commitments allowing
9) How often you collect the money of your fees in advance, 50/50 or at the end of the event?
50/50 stipulated in contract tho some of our regulars we dont bother to chase for upfront
10) Do you think sometime forward the VJ community could enjoy a similar status like DJs do? (N? of contracts, Travels, Money earning)
please god yes
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Old 14th June 2002, 06:09 PM
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Go on ...Tell me the luma key hack for the mx12!!
All in good time young padwan......

I think there should be some documentation for it very soon.

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Old 14th June 2002, 11:09 PM
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1) City and country where you live?
New zealand
2) Your average service price list as a VJ?
never enough
3) Are your fees per Hour or a whole Party/Event package based?
event based
4) Are you supplying also the projectors/screens in your price?
no
5) How many of your contracts comes from Raves, Clubs, Other Events? (Please specify in percents & type of events)
5% other
65 % club
30% rave
6) How many of your contracts are in your own city, cross your country or International?
60% city
40%country
7) How much competence you have for good VJ contracts?
plese explain -
8) How many events have you worked for free?
too many
9) How often you collect the money of your fees in advance, 50/50 or at the end of the event?
as often as possible 50% in advance
10) Do you think sometime forward the VJ community could enjoy a similar status like DJs do? (N? of contracts, Travels, Money earning)
no - definitely better but most VJs are artists - not ego maniacs.....
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Old 14th June 2002, 11:49 PM
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1) Leeds U.K.

2) I'll go with warp on this one

3) for the whole gig

4) seeing as i have to hire one (without the hire company screwing me) yes. Mind if i owend one I'd still charge it as part of my price but it would give me more flexability with price

5) Rave 80%
club 10%
outher 10%

6) home town 80%
out of town 20%

7) ?

8) 1 is to meny and 1000 will never be enougth

9) 100% at the end of the gig (maybe i'm to trusting)

10) still makeing my mind up personely i'd love to be rich and fameos but i also understand that that as an artist it's not the mony that drew me to this in the first place
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Old 15th June 2002, 05:40 AM
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1) City and country where you live?
colorado springs/Victor, Colorado USa

2) Your average service price list as a VJ?
I alway never get what I should..

3) Are your fees per Hour or a whole Party/Event package based?
...event but would prefer hourly..

4) Are you supplying also the projectors/screens in your price?
I usually supply most everything related to the visualz..

5) How many of your contracts comes from Raves, Clubs, Other Events? (Please specify in percents & type of events)
80% event/festival/rave
20% club/coffee shop

6) How many of your contracts are in your own city, cross your country or International?
for the events/raves(hate the werd), mostly around front range of Colorado.. and a few gigs in N.Mexico, and around europe when I can...

7) How much competence you have for good VJ contracts?
how good am I in getting contracts?? well I have been able to get some good international gigs...lousy at finding the local gigs.. More of a clickish attitude with the CO promoters...

8) How many events have you worked for free?
this should be, how often do you get screwed from the promoter? but I do EarthDances for free...

9) How often you collect the money of your fees in advance, 50/50 or at the end of the event?
well I usually try to get 50% down, but if I insisted on that, I wouldn't be getting manty gigs around here...

10) Do you think sometime forward the VJ community could enjoy a similar status like DJs do? (N? of contracts, Travels, Money earning)

shit, I think we deserve more.. how hard is it to mix vinyl for a couple of hours anyway.. unfortunatly the visualz need the music, but the music can stand on it's own... maybe best to do both in one neat and tity package..
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