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Old 16th February 2006, 01:03 PM
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Default BCF/BCD/MicroKontrol/Novation - help?

Hi, i want to purchase a good all round midi controller for resolume. I have reduced down to these 4 below.

Now i like the pads on the Korg for kicking clips they look spacious and sensitive & the faders/knobs are quite good also.

The Behringer clearly has the best faders (motorised im lead to believe) & knobs, however the buttons look a bit small & "clicky" & ive heard the length of the faders makes it difficult to do quick fades.

Ive placed the Behringer BCD in here because the faders look shorter, it has jog wheels (not sure if there any good for scratching?). Ive also heard the jog wheels are either 0 or 128 theres nothing inbetween leaving them useless.

The Novation has what the others have but more of everything + theres a scratch pad, however the faders & nobs look quite small. & generally not as good as the rest, offering quantity but not as good quality.

ok I'm really struggling to decide on a controller here... any help, experience, or other suggestions etc ???

Berhinger BCF 2000
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan0...ontrollers.htm

Behringer BCD 2000
http://www.behringer.com/BCD2000/index.cfm?lang=ENG

Novation Remote 25
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug0...onremote25.htm

Korg microKontrol
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar0...crokontrol.htm
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Old 16th February 2006, 01:22 PM
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I have a Remote25 that I used very happily with Resolume for about 6 months, it also works GREAT with the new version of OpenTZT which I have jsut switched too Its a solid unit (USB powered = VERY handy) with an excellent range of controllers, the knobs are good quality (and it has both rotary and endless knobs, so you can mix and match), the sliders prolly aren't as "big" as the Behringer unit and are a little "spasticy" but I am yet to have any problems with one actually giving out (BTW its actually about 3 years old I believe as I brought it second hand).

Also if you get a keyboard I highly recommend getting a midi footpedal setup aswell, its great for switching banks when your triggering off the keyboard, also if you get something like the Behringer FCB1010 you get 2 Expression pedals you can tie to levels/fx params.

Oh and for those that are interested I'll be supplying my default Remote25/BehringerFCB1010 midi config file with OpenTZT1.5 when it is released
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Old 16th February 2006, 02:14 PM
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The BCR2000 is fantastic for VJ/DJ use. It's cheap, and you've got more knobs and buttons than you know what to do with. IMO, the BCF isn't nearly as useful, and the "Check out them moving faders, dude!" novelty soon wears off. They're cheap Chinese faders, too, and I wouldn't want to rely on them.

If you rely on any Behringer product for your livelihood, though, I'd carry a spare, and back up your settings frequently via a MIDI sysex utility.

I've been thinking about the FCB1010, too, for Ableton Live use.
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Old 16th February 2006, 08:41 PM
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any ideas about the BCD as a controller and those jog wheels.. and are the faders slightly shorter?
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