well been up and down : D true the vjscene is nothing you will be either rich or able to live on. but the vj scene started to get some new ideas going. right now .. we got some big plans going on : D it's alla about light and sound tho : D bigtime projections on buildings shows etc .. more inoative with materials, and interactive stuff

i still use pilgrim to do some 3d mapping and stuff .. but jesus guys. dont be sad .. haha but if you guys had gone with your marketing the other way : P like the greenhippo guys.. and you know what .. you werent far away.. hehe look at pilgrim i still do things in pil like the otherguys programing vvvv or processing : P i still get the same result in some way .. sure some things i cant do but anyway .. :P so what are you guys upto now ? last time i think you went for the live 3d tv thing right ?