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drvisual
27th October 2002, 06:52 AM
Hi people,

Check out the screenshots at:

http://www.loosegoose.nl/PilgrimMain.htm

These really look awesome!! It is kind of a 3d vj software which can also play all kinds of movies and live video capture.

I've heard that they are still in beta now. Can't wait to get my hands on a demo!

dr.visual

eXhale
29th October 2002, 04:01 PM
Well I'm part of their beta test but I've been a pretty bad beta tester so far. I'm sure you can get your hands on the beta if you email them about it though... it sure looks like a promising app :)

drvisual
29th October 2002, 04:39 PM
Do you know what price it will be? It surely looks advanced.

What are your impressions of this piece of software?

I'm gonna apply!

eXhale
29th October 2002, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by drvisual
What are your impressions of this piece of software?
Well like I said I haven't been a good beta tester, I launched the app two times during, hmmm, 5 minutes? and of course haven't accomplished much during this time. But, hey, another beta tester on this forum didn't even install it! ;)

As for the price I think they promised something not too expensive.

nkm
29th October 2002, 07:53 PM
Hi

Too bad, Exhale, you didn't have much time to beta test.

As for the "beta" tester that didn't even install it: why did he even apply for a beta position?

Dr.Visual: glad you like the looks of it! With Pilgrim we hope to lift vj-ing to a higher level. As you said, Pilgrim not only offers the basic vj software functionality (playing all kinds of video (unlimited layers), playing from capture devices) but also has a very powerfull 3d engine that is able to render huge scenes (terrain, static geometry, particle systems and dynamic geometry). These scenes can - just like movies etc- be layered onto each other to produce the final result.

Pilgrim's main feature is: realtime vjing. It is designed to work with a multimonitor setup. The outputwindow you see in the screenshots can be dragged to another monitor if you have the right hardware. Furthermore, assets can be uploaded to the program during a show, so there is no need to pause!

Currently it is at BETA version 2.2. We might release another beta or go directly to the release.

The website will be updated quit soon with some more information about this software.

It will cost roundabout 190 euros

Thanks for your interest!

nkm/ loose goose

Rovastar
30th October 2002, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by nkm

Furthermore, assets can be uploaded to the program during a show, so there is no need to pause!


/shudder to VJ's out there really pause a show to dispaly clips...................

konsumgrafik
30th October 2002, 08:59 AM
Hi, I applyed to be in the beta pool twice and all I got was
some ansering mails. Sorry. I still would like and I think I would
install it :) just to see wtf it can do and if it would be nice to by a copy.

see you around

Arnout
3rd November 2002, 09:52 PM
Ok konsumgrafik,

we have sorted the problem out by email now, have fun with Pilgrim! Make us proud!

MoRpH
4th November 2002, 07:33 AM
Hmmm saw this a while ago.... seems to have been in beta almost as long as that SVD2 vapourware. The UI looks more like 3ds max, sorry but not the sort of UI I like in a VJ app.

konsumgrafik
4th November 2002, 08:35 AM
Thanks Arnout, I installed Pilgrim and I playes around and
like the it works and the speed on my Lappy. Now I need
some time to figure some stuff and than I like to write a re-view
of the final release on vjc. You just need to complete the help and the stability......:D

go on and cheers Daniel

elbows
4th November 2002, 10:31 AM
I found some time to test beta version 2 - I like it :) The more detailed tutorial samples made a world of difference in my ability to understand how it worked.

Any chance of a quickstart guide for getting the midi side of it working?

nkm
5th November 2002, 02:44 PM
Too bad Morph that you find our software vaporware.... have you tried it yet? The interface doesn't differ much from Resolume's.

I know our beta-period is taking some time, but the program is quit big compared to most vj-software currently available. We just want to be sure it is bugfree before the release.

Furthermore, we're just a couple of university students doing this in our spare time. And we're doing this mainly for fun, coz the vj-market isn't that interesting from a commercial point of view at all
:)

nubins
5th November 2002, 06:12 PM
I sent an email to the company requesting a Beta copy of Pilgrim but I have gotten no responce.

Anyone know where else I can get a Beta copy to try out.

I use TOUCH right now and want to compare what is possable with both programs.

Thanks

elbows
5th November 2002, 08:39 PM
The only way to legitimately get a beta of it is to become part of the beta testers team. Arnout and nkm on this thread are the programmers, so they should be able to help you with your request to try it.

MoRpH
6th November 2002, 03:26 AM
Originally posted by nkm
Too bad Morph that you find our software vaporware.... have you tried it yet? The interface doesn't differ much from Resolume's.

I know our beta-period is taking some time, but the program is quit big compared to most vj-software currently available. We just want to be sure it is bugfree before the release.

Furthermore, we're just a couple of university students doing this in our spare time. And we're doing this mainly for fun, coz the vj-market isn't that interesting from a commercial point of view at all
:)

Yeah its cool mate I understand where your coming from I was just feeling bitchy that day cause I have been waiting on a few good softwares to get released/updated and its bugging the hell out of me.

As for the UI, the pics look more like 3ds MAX to me, mind you I'm not a big fan of Resolume's UI either but hey, thats why we have choice :D

Arnout
6th November 2002, 12:21 PM
No prob :)

I would like to mention that aside from your remark, we have only received very positive reactions about the interface. Pilgrim comes with an enormous set of features, so without a professional interface you would never be able to understand it.

Looks are always a matter of taste, but I'm sure that you agree with me that it all comes down to the visuals you can make with the software, and trying to find the best way to achieve this.

I invite you to try it out when i becomes available!'

grtz, Arnout

BrainStove
19th December 2002, 10:46 PM
Well Arnout & NKM, indeed you have a very Deaf email inbox, maybe too many mails to check or you are too busy working for the final Pilgrim release, but come on pals, different to konsumgrafik I haven?t received a single word reply from you at least to let me know you got the e-mail I sent you sometime ago.

I hope you are still alive but just tuning/tweaking your earing gadget... :D

vjking
15th January 2003, 04:07 PM
Just curious. You mention that min hardware requirements are GeForce. Is that just what you are testing, or will the software also function well with Matrox and ATI cards?

Also - can you tell us how you render screens on the secondary monitor, or even if you do, in a mulit-monitor setup? Will this function satisfactorily without hardware acceleration?

Your screenshots imply that you have a spectrum analysis capability presumably for tracking the video along with the audio, but can you tell me if you have the ability to switch scenes or morph via an audio trigger?

nkm
15th January 2003, 07:51 PM
Hi,

Geforce "class" VGA (so any hardware T&L able VGA will do (ATI, Matrox also) is required. Furthermore, Pilgrim relies on DirectX8.1

Multi-screen is simply done by doubling the horizontal resolution of the desktop (ala NVidia Twinview) and placing the ui on one side and the outputwindow on the other. This is the only possible way for Pilgrim, as the UI uses 3d- elements from the engine. (ie. shows shaders used in the presentation in the ui in realtime ). The outputwindow is a floating window and thus can be resized and moved freely.

Pilgrim's element is a "layer". A layer can be for example a 3d scene, or a movie clip. The final output is achieved by blending the layers. So yes, you can switch/morph layers (eg. on a trigger by soundsystem/ midi etc.)

Hope this helps!

nkm/ loose goose

okot
29th January 2003, 02:41 PM
Does this means is only available on Dual view cards or on if used on a Parhelia card it 3 screens? Can anymore screens be added onto it?

WordVirus23
29th January 2003, 05:01 PM
from the sounds of it, I'll have better luck getting ahold of you guys here, rather than through email... so perhaps a public beta release? hmmm or if not, please drop me a quick email at:
wordvirus23@hotmail.com

I gig regularly (2-5 times a week) and use 3 different computers with varying stats (lowest lappy is a 750mhz) so I have a broad range of hardware to test on...

code on!

..james...

vortex
17th February 2003, 08:47 AM
whant to test this soft in beta or not i make enought littel partys (about 10 or 40 peopols most dj's or vj's and goupies) for freinds where i am not payed and it is not important if i crash the computer or not. it is on those partys where you can test softs fully before you use them on big partys

i hope to get a copy thanks

nkm
19th February 2003, 11:14 AM
hi vortex,

The public (and last) beta will be released in March. I will post a message on this board when it's there.

thanks,
nkm/ Loose Goose