The final resolume - laptop problems

[fisheye]

Hi ,

I did get myself a Dell inspiron 8200, 512ram, Nvidia geforce 4 440 GO, 40 gb 5400 rpm drive,....
I use resolume and heard that some people succeed to put the output on the TV out (witch is giving black borders above and below) fullscreen and still see the preview window. I know that works on a G450 Matrox card, how do you make it work on this laptop. Exhale ? You are a hardcore dell/resolume user ??
I would be nice of the resolume guys to put some hardware on the site so you can buy a system according to that.

Thx alot

f!Sh-I

[hyperdimensional]

I use resolume and heard that some people succeed to put the output on the TV out (witch is giving black borders above and below) fullscreen and still see the preview window

The reason this works on a Matrox card is because Resolume utilises DVDMax, which is only avaliable on these cards. :rolleyes:

With regards to the TV out issue, it sounds like your laptop is outputing in Widescreen (though this is a wild guess, and I'm probably lying!). Try and have a play with your second monitor settings in display properties.

Hope this helps!

[eXhale]

Yeah to keep the preview, you must either use a card which supports DVDMax or a scan convertor which supports 3x zoom and high resolutions. I use the second solution and it works OK, although the preview window is a bit squeezed (it still is VERY helpful to see the preview in some situations).

[fisheye]

Thx guys for the reply's

I'll thing I'll go for the scanconverter scenario..
But do you know how you clone your desktop on the second screen... If i figure that out, then i'm ready to go completely portable


f!sh-I

[eXhale]

Originally posted by fisheye
I'll thing I'll go for the scanconverter scenario..
But do you know how you clone your desktop on the second screen... I don't know what graphic card you have but with the nVidia GeForce2 you can do the cloning by right clicking on the desktop > Parameters > Advanced. Then you have a tab where you can clone the desktop.

[fisheye]

I do have a geforce4 440 go with 64mb ... Oops i dont find the clone option tab .....
Damn .. computers , sometimes I hate them (especially when there expensive and don't do what you want them to do....)




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[murph]

I have your exact setup, and though I don't use a preview with resolume (prefer to use my preview monitor on my mixer) I can tell you how to do cloning. 1) make sure the svid or VGA connections have something on them. Won't turn on the option without detecting a device there. 2) Display Properties > settings > Advanced > nView > clone radio button. 3) OK. =]

The black borders are an unfortunate property of the tv out, so I use a scanny on the vga output, and send the output to that interface fullscreen. I found the image looks much better coming through the scanny at fullscreen rather than zoomed, and so live without in-app preview.

Enjoy!

[MoRpH]

Once again I read this and I don't understand why no app can get a DECENT DUAL HEAD SETUP!!! How hard it is to have a small preview window on the main UI AND full screen out (640x480) on the second desktop REALLY it CAN'T BE THAT HARD.

Personally I have a scanny (although only 2x zoom not 3 so I can't use it with Resolume) but I would MUCH prefer to use the composite out on my laptop, since its one less thing to drag out and seem SUCH a waste not to use it.

Actually come to think of it doesn't motion dive do what I described above???

Anyway hoping to see this feature in some of the better apps out there soon (ie SVi, Resolume, VJo, etc....)

[sleepytom]

its very resource hungry to display fullscreen video on one monitor and a scaled preview on another monitor - thats why nobody does it

why not use softscan - if you ned to have preview and fullscreen display then softscan will do this for you - then you can use your tv out - compleat with the dodgy underscan.

[MoRpH]

OK well how does motion dive pull it off????

Softscan being a 3rd party is going to be more clunky/taxing than just implementing the fuctionality into a VJ soft.

I can see that it would be resource hungry but it CAN be done so I would like to see an OPTION for it @ least, that way ppl that have the resources to do it can and then as the rest of us catchup we can use it too...... and actually the TV out from my lappy is actually very nice.

[sleepytom]

motion dive does all of about 10 frames per second and it does not display fullres video on the output with a shrunk down preview - it displays scaled up video on the output and the preview at the actuall resolution your working at

i don't understand why you need the preview -why not just have fullscreen video out on one monitor and the controls on another - then you can use the video monitor on your mixer for the preview (which you need to be looking at anyway) - thats how VJamm2 works and it seems perfectly useable

[MoRpH]

Of course YOUR happy with the tool you have... thats what YOU want but I'm after THIS functionality, personally I mainly work off my laptop and only really use a mixer to switch sources and mix in some live cam, so I'm not really interested in lugging a seperate preview...... also with a laptop the LCD always wants to be the primary monitor (well mine seems too) so you can't have the output nice and fast on the primary and controls on the secondary (monitor out) as the composite out wants to be the SECOND OR MIRROR the primary.

Personally I wouldn't mind that much about the fact that its only a scaled up output on the secondary desktop as currently using a scanny to upscale so its basically the same deal minus another bit of kit.

I don't understand what you have AGAINST ppl having this functionality, it can ONLY make things easier.

(also note that I have seen motion dive doing MUCH better than that on a friends laptop, which is only marginally better than my own)