How big is Goth?

[texas62]

Curious if Goth type videos are being used a lot by VJ's?

[holly]

Why? You got some? Need some?

What were you thinking? What makes a clip goth-y?;)

[kallisti]

well, i'm not sure how it is in other areas, but here the goth thing is well....
kinda apathetic.

most of the kids are there for a fashion show, and could care less about visuals..
some friends of mine have tried to incorporate video into the goth clubs, but the kids barely paid attention... the industrial kids seem to appreciate it a little more though...

[texas62]

I am not sure either...I made some skeletons and skulls and people told me it was Goth..definately in the eye of the beholder.

Is blood Goth? It depends how it is used.

[CA]

kallisti, I dont agree. The kids on our goth.synthpop night love what i throw up.

That skull is not very goth in my opinion either...

[holly]

I don't think goth is amerika flag with reflecto bubbles.... I'd stay away from CG, 3D, and anything too computery.

I'd go with all camera footage -- esp shakey blurry footage. Colors are a bit more black, purple, and maroon..., dark colors.... Velvet and lace. Celtic knots, dark faeries, nosferatu, witchery.... Try soft blurs. Melting candles. Rose petals. High-contrast dead tree branches against grey sky. Tribal angles.... umm... black feathers.... tomb stones.

you could go vinyl or latex fetish-y too. Tattoos. Piercings.

Try this Goth primer (http://www.sfgoth.com/primer/) to check some stereotypes as defined from within the scene.

or just google some goth images. Get ideas. Goths are all vain image concious and work very hard on their look, so don't even try unless you understand the imagery. What do you "throw up" Ca?

Industrial is better for VJing probly easier: gears, rusty metal, wasteland, ugly hard edged spiky things... yay.

[VJFranzK]

spiky things? ;)

watch (nearly) any film by Tim Burton - Gothic!

[brain]

the goth aesthetics have changed in some points since the 80s in others they haven't. yes there is still all the classic imagery to be used (the graveyard thing, anything sinister and occult) but the last few years there has been a larger tendency towards body modification, s/m and industrial elements, and even fantasy role playing.

i did a gig at a fetish party with strong goth elements last summer, and did a lot of preproduction with obvious and obscure sources (cutting up and heavy posting of old bauhaus videos, jean rollin movies, silent movies, jesse franco movies, scanned and animated record covers, dv shots, and even those ol' b/w pics i took way back in the eighties :) ) and a lot of less clich?d images that had some wickedness to them.

in any way, goth seems to be rather images than abstraction. but always try to add some personal view and new ideas to the visuals, or it may look cheap and uninspired or like some halloween joke. goth has been around for so long that lugosi staring was old news even in the eighties.

much more people than at your usual club night walked up to me and said they liked it - they were not used to visuals and really appreciated what they saw. nice experience! although i almost wrecked my mixer with all the sweat running out of my rubber sleeve :)