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jayce
22nd October 2002, 09:17 AM
hello I am new here, but for my next theater production I would like to control avi or any movie file with sound and switching to live cam like usb cam or dv firewire input

does any body know a software that can do that in a high video resolution 640x480 or higher

thanx

jayce

HuoLong
22nd October 2002, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by jayce
for my next theater production I would like to control avi movie file with sound
the devloper(s) of GEM are working (but with less time) on this, so i will add it to my project when it's ready...
http://www.vjforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=954

...if you export the audio from your film to an audio file, you could play the video&audio files syncron in PD+GEM...

can't remember if arkaos or vjamm does this, but i think atleast one VJsoft should do this...

cheers
-andre

jayce
22nd October 2002, 09:55 AM
arkaos does it but they dont supply live video feed only grabbing frame by frame

hyperdimensional
22nd October 2002, 11:02 AM
Does it have to be software? You could use a combination, the freeware programme Midivid allows you to trigger audio visual samples, and then you could use a hardware mixer to mix the live signal...

For the mac there are programmes like VDMX or you could use MAX/MSP Nato combo, or Isadora.

Linux has jMAX and pure-data.

Its worth reading the reviews of these pieces of software, downloading the demos and having a little play.

Good luck.

sleepytom
22nd October 2002, 11:33 AM
VJamm 2 Pro (http://www.vjammpro.com) will playback avi with sound - it is the only vj software desinged to work well with audio (radical features such as per clip volume control!!) it is capable of playing back 16 clips at once and thes clips can be upto 1024x768 pixles - there is no live camera input as of yet but it is on the dev list

at the moment i would recomend uysing a hardware mixer to mix the live cam in as there is no AV vj software that will input from a live cam at a decent frame rate and high res.

for a simple (cheap) solution get VJamm 1 (?10 from the ninjatune shop (http://ninjatune.net/ninjashop/additem.php?ZENVJAM1quantity=1&dest=www.ninjatune.net%2Fcoldcut)) it can only play one clip at a time and its limmited to 384x288 pixles but it is cheap and extreamly reliable and the audio performance is very good

on a diffrent note i wish people would stop recomending max/nato/jitter/pd/gem/jmax etc etc as solutions for people requesting video software , by all means recomend a specific patch or a piece of software made using these tools but don't kid people into beliving that they can easaly achive there desired end results using these PROGRAMING tools (i could just as easaly say that you could knock up a quick app in delphi or C++ that would have any functionality that you require - but its not good advice for someone who is looking for a finished app!)

hyperdimensional
22nd October 2002, 12:19 PM
on a diffrent note i wish people would stop recomending max/nato/jitter/pd/gem/jmax etc etc as solutions for people requesting video software

I think its only right that all the options should be recommended when somebody asks for help.

If one individual finds max easier to use than vjamm then so be it.

You shouldn't leave out some of the programmes just because there is a steeper learning curve.

:shake:

sleepytom
22nd October 2002, 12:45 PM
Have you ever seen max??

it is not a program for video - it is a interpreted multimedia programing language designed by ircam for the fast construction of multimedia software - it allows you to program your own software using objects in a visual environment - it can get some interesting results very quickly once you have learnt the language - but is a programing language and thus is not a suitable bit of software to recommend to someone who wants a finished, tested application.

Using programs like max or director you can make some good programs very quickly with a minimum of programing knowledge (although the end results will never perform as well as a program written in C or Pascal and there variations) but they still take years to learn properly and are not good solutions for this requirement.

If one individual finds max easier to use than vjamm then so be it Haha - i can show a child how vjamm works in 10 minuets (and i'm going to this afternoon) this is simply not possible with max

hyperdimensional
22nd October 2002, 01:12 PM
Have you ever seen max??
i have used max, and when i refered to it I meant max/msp plus nato or jitter...... yada, yada. (For brievity I shortened it)

I also know that vjamm is alot easier to use than the above combination.

My only point was that you should allow all the options to be presented, so an individual can make up his/her own minds. If everyone was advised to run off and buy vjamm, vJo or Resolume everytime they came to these forums the world of the vj would quickly become a very stale place.

syzygy
23rd October 2002, 09:58 PM
If you need to trigger the AVIs very accurately then I'd recommend either VJamm Pro as sleepytom suggested or MidiVid (www.midivid.com).

Midivid doesn't have quite the level of control that Vjamm Pro has (you can vary volume and pan with key velocity but that's it) and it requires a midi keyboard, but it's free ;)

I'm with ***** on using a hardware mixer to deal with the cameras - use a computer for what it does best (triggering AVIs) and a hardware mixer for what it foes best (mixing)

As an aside, I also agree with Sleepytom and ***** about recommending programming toolkits when people ask for applications - such recommendations should at least come with a note about how much of a learning curve in involved or people could waste a lot of time looking into things that are going to be way too much hassle for them.

Sure, present all the options, but present them with some information on how much work is involved to implement them.

Dan.

(SyZyGy Visuals)