modul8 wishlists!

[akira_k]

Just got my copy of modul8. I'm so happy about it! Great program.

But since I'm a picky mofo I already got some things that I'd like to see in the future, so I thought about posting them here for the garageCUBE team to see. Feel free to post yours. (mods, feel free to move this post if put in the inapropriate forum)

Being the MIDI controlling maniac that I have become, all my current "wants" are related to MIDI:

* Above all: selecting the MIDI channel of the MIDI message I want to assign. Currently I'm using an Edirol PCR-30 and a Korg Electribe EA1, it's all fine but the Elctribe is throwing data through two channels, and modul8 takes all this data at the same time because it's put in Omni by default (at least I think so, all controllers say 0/?? , is there something I'm missing?). Would be nice if the program would recognize the MIDI command's channel, so if I press C3 on channel 1, it would only use the C3 coming from channel 1.

* MIDI cuepoints. Making a small miniloop inside a loop like those DVJX1 things do, traktor style, you know what I mean.

* MIDI BPM syncing. Making the loops sync their length to the BPM coming through MIDI in various ways.


I gues that's all, the most important thing for me now is the channel selection I think, because I use the Electribe's part 2 for audio and part 1 for video, I don't want them to be mixed up.

[Rovastar]

I unfortunately do not have the power to move this to the appropriate access to move to the correct forum which would be somewhere here:

http://www.garagecube.com/forum/

[akira_k]

Well I liked to hear the feedback from people from VJF, so it would be _pointless to post at the garageCUBE forums (where I have posted as well)

[djnada]

Cool gear!!! I notice that certain clips hesitate at first when triggered. I'm not sure if this is because of the type of compression, length of clip, or what. Have you dabbled in Apple Pixlet codec? I ran these, since they seem to be relatively high quality small files and they work on M-8. I dunno, I think they are working to make M-8 free frame friendly. A hybrid between Apple's Motion effects and M-8 would be killer, but probably too CPU or graphics card intensive. Imagine shooting out particle effects on the fly through m-8? (yeah, I know arkaos has at least one cheesy particle effect, so it can be done) I guess that lack of effects is the major wish, and i'd even venture to pay more bucks for that iteration.

[Rovastar]

Originally posted by akira_k
Well I liked to hear the feedback from people from VJF, so it would be _pointless to post at the garageCUBE forums (where I have posted as well)

Surely this is not the correct place for it though otherwise every VJ releted software app ever made would have wishlist forums, etc here.

I understand the need for discussion but creating a wishlist here on VJF seems not the right place.

[akira_k]

I've seen people discussing similar things about other apps before, so I posted about my new app. sorry about commiting a tremendous crime. Merge this thread with the "modul8 tests" thread. It would be much better than killing/closing the thread and complaining about it making some sort of damage or anything.

djnada: the delay seems to be caused when the first time you hit on the clip it gets preloaded in memory, if the clip has been assigned to preloading. Not something I complain about, really. Eons better than what I was used to on Arkaos

[djnada]

Even though all websites are private spaces (since they are hosted on private servers), we at VJCentral try to be as open as possible to all opinions because we believe in the freedom of speech and information. (from VJC terms of agreement) Surely this is not the correct place for it though otherwise every VJ releted software app ever made would have wishlist forums, etc here.
ROVASTAR wrote:
I understand the need for discussion but creating a wishlist here on VJF seems not the right place.



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I stab people in the front
The discussions on this site have been an inspiration and have challenged me to develop as an artist. I surely do not see how a discussion of new and cutting edge software violates the terms set forth by VJC. And so what if "every VJ releted software app ever made would have wishlist forums." So much the better. Knowledge is power. I know these posts are very small files. Are they clogging up the servers? What gives? I am confused and somewhat dismayed. Again, sharing knowledge is where it's at. remaining willfully ignorant is not. the knowledge i have gained here has been indispensible to me. And i wish to share my own knowledge with others, as well. Thank-you, VJC for an awesome experience. Rova - is this part of the I stab people in the front persona? I do not wish to stab people at all. I wish to learn. Please let this thread stay intact.
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[elbows]

Ive always been of the opinion that there are some issues when it comes to discussing specific VJ software in depth on these forums. I always wanted to do it, but it tends to draw a negative resonse from some. Whilst Ive always understood that there is logic to posting detailed questions/requests etc for various software on the relevant software's own forum rather than here, I also want to talk about stuff in detail here.

So occasionally I moan. But in reality Im not sure how many others want to talk in depth about the same software as me, and I dont like the negative "shut up" type responses, so I usually dont post about it here, which makes me a little unhappy.

Still if the developers of mudol8 dont visit vjforums then it would make more sense perhaps for this post to be in the vjforums software section rather than developers area, as no developers can actually develop anything on the wishlist, its more for users to dream really I would have thought?

[djnada]

Elbows, the modul8 development team have posted here and are listening. If Akira had posted on the garagecube site, i would never have learned that little bit about preloaded clips. That's worth a million bucks! BTW, the M-8 team is lightning fast in their rewiting code and providing bug fixes and upgrades. This forum does work and i and many others are grateful for it.

[elbows]

Groovy. Id like to clarify this issue once and for all then, Im in favour of allowing all posts such as this, always have been, so I dont need convincing.

Sorry that this thread has been all off-topicated akira_k, Im hoping that loads of forum users rush into this thread to support the idea of talking about this kind of stuff, to end the calls for silence once and for all. Then hopefully your thread can be reformed to the purpose for which it was intended.

[akira_k]

Someone could try to merge the comments into the modul8 test thread if they want, I wouldn't mind,. I just found it strange that "this is not the place for this sort of thing", specially when I have seen similar discussion before (maybe not in a thread of its own, but inside a huge thread).

[lowRes]

i think a good improvement in Modul8 would be free frame support! as well as more effects modularity! about the interface i would like to see 2D sliders to control 3D effects(X and Y) while the Z could be obtained from pressure on th trackpad (on laptops) or mouse buttons (continuous movement whyle pressed).

I also think that this is the BEST place to discuss this kind of subjects! It is a forum of specialized people! specialized on real time control of video or synthesis, people who use lots of different systems, hardware, softwares and can freely share their experience and knowledge on modul8, arkaos, vjo or whatever software (that even have their own forums!)!

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r_x

[Rovastar]

It will be discussed amongst us evil ones and we will see what happens. Me and elbows have different opinions and what these forums are about.

akira_k,

I wasn't picking on you are modul8 here I would ahve done the same about any s/w and/or member it appeared from your post you didn't know a forums exist specifically for this issue for functions and features of modula8. Surely taht is the best place to psot such info.

I do not want the see the forums cluttered with hundreds of wishlists and bugreports etc for the every gowing numbers of VJsoftware. Therefore the new and exciting and most important news like new software being released and requests for help from fellow devolpers can be seen. Not a collection of duplicated forums which are not in the most relevant place.

I was thinking of the best interests for the forum(s)

djnada,

lol if I 'stabbed' you would know about it. ;):P:):D

[elbows]

Any objections if I post about this in the software forum so that people who may not follow developers forum are made aware that an issue of whats best for the forums is being debated? The more opinions the merrier.

[akira_k]

Originally posted by Rovastar
I would ahve done the same about any s/w and/or member Of course I never interpreted it as a personal attack against me or a personal thing about modul8! I just thought it was adequated. I know what being a mod is rovastar, no probs ;)

I'm all in for merging the modul8 comments into the modul8 tests (http://vjforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=7527) thread if that suits you guys better, while deleting the other unrelated stuff. Sorry for the mess.

[djnada]

BTW, Akira, I just checked the garagecube site that Rova kindly supplied a link to. Check under FAQs where they explain that two midi controllers can be used, as long as they are on different channels, which is what i assumed. Do you use different midi "banks" with the electribe? I see the wisdom of Rova. you should definitely check the garagecube forum. Perhaps the perceived congestion here could be averted by posting an initial post with a link to the garagecube forum. only problem may be that many, such as myself, rarely check back on archived threads. I usually just check to see what people are currently up to. Anyhow, the G-cube forum is cool for M-8 stuff. those guys rock!

[akira_k]

The garageCUBE forums are not as actiove as these as well, so the response in here is much more energic than over there.

I checked those forums thoroughly. My Electribe does output in two different channels (it's like having two devices, I set which channel each part transmit/receives in). Part 1 is set in Channel 1 and part 2 is set in Channel 2. Modul8 still takes inputs from all of them, I think because when configured, the little MIDI numbers say "0/70", "0/71", etc. I think 0/?? is Omni, while if it was 1/?? or 2/?? it would be fine (I think the format is Channel/MSGNumber). I haven't found a way to set that initial number to something else but I've seen that by accident in an ocassion one of the controllers was assigned to "15/70". Dunno how that happened but I think that's just what I needed, anybody has a clue? Nothing in the docs or FAQ is said about it (or I blatantly missed it), because MIDI recognition is supposed to be fool-proof and automatic, while I'd like a little bit more configuration on my side ;)

[djnada]

OK, I dunno whether or not this is a solution. So, you are running audio on one channel and midi to M-8 controller on another channel. Do you use two iBooks. (I seem to remember on a previous post that you had at least two of these babies) If so, why not dedicate one to visuals, the other to audio. Route your midi out from electribe to a midi splitter. then go to apllications/utilities/audio-midi setup (on your mac). once in audio/midi setup, choose midi. Click on "more information. Therer you can specify "port," which i can only interpret as "channel." dedicate port 1 to audio on machine 1, port 2 to M-8 dedicated machine 2. I hope this helps. Hopefully, machine 1 will only recognize midi from channel 1, machine 2 recognizing midi from channel 2 only. cross your fingers. Feel free to pm me on this one, i'm curious. Good luck!

[akira_k]

The official reply to my problem is here:

http://www.garagecube.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=74

Seems like the electribe is doing something strange. I'll have to post in hardware now :)