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23rd September 2002, 11:53 AM
such as winamp..
I dont like vjo becuase of its inability to do realtime configuration on dual monitors.
I diss like 'preset shows'. I want realtime animation as winamp is great on doing. however is there a way to do winamp in dual screen mode to configure it as well?
I dont need stuff that imports videos etc.. I want complete realtime configurable generated graphics. I cant seem to find the right software. Please help thanks.
23rd September 2002, 01:17 PM
Hmmm you checked Touch (http://www.derivativeinc.com)? I think it generates visuals in real time and you can use MIDI and such to change parameters. It's quite expensive though. There is a review of Touch Player here.
23rd September 2002, 01:42 PM
Most softwares have a combination of functions like your after...... read the reviews on VJC @ Audiovisualizers.com
23rd September 2002, 02:28 PM
umm, if VJo is just presets, then winamp is no different. You can get things in VJo to respond to the music, and even to midi or keyboard input, just have to figure out the input drivers. If that's not good enough for you, I'm sorry, but I don't think there's much that's better.
24th September 2002, 01:19 AM
STrangely enough I actually agree with murph here, there really isn't much that is better around and you definately can change params and stuff on the fly a lot more than winamp stuff. Still knowing my memmory there is some softwares I'm overlooking/forgetting to mention check as above
25th September 2002, 04:43 AM
I managed to get winamp to crank using a dualhead card using the overlay mode.
I cant quite remember all the specifics but I got winamp to display fullscreen to desktop#1 using overlay mode and ran all the control boxes in desktop#2.
It took a bit of playing around but it got there in the end. Just be careful what screen you make primary etc etc. Winamp doesn't listen to the Nvidea extentions very well. It tends to have a mind of its own.
25th September 2002, 07:08 AM
VJ ranked 2D originals = Bomb, Aestesis, x|GRIND
WA standalone versions = Mocha, Gforce, Geiss, WhiteCap, Hypnogenic, R2ePro
3D sound reacting stuff = DancerDna, Oozic, CVA, Kinemorphics, upcoming Zuma
Hybrids to the above = Vusic, GioFX/AudioMonitor, some of the Johnny Bros VJ apps
Well, just some of the best to keep you busy for a while :)
As for Winamp plugs running Dualhead... Hehehe, ALL OF THEM could be used Dual as far you have a REAL dualhead videocard in your computer (XVGA Rez) or at least running your plugins Windowed (not full screen) and using a ScanConverter with zoom features (TV rez only).
Note: Some WA plugins are advanced enough to detect automatically your previously/properly configured Dualhead card, providing you a menu where you can set it up whatever you like.
So hoping this could lead you to a clean spot to start :)
27th September 2002, 01:02 AM
I hate to sound like a spammer but XYNth is definately going this route... for example a few of the scenes in the current demo repond to mouse x and y axis input as individual assignable controllers. For example mouse X axis can be mapped to X scale or red channel of rgba etc.
Although currently you can't change these assignments in the demo, you will see the use of mappable controllers expand, especially once the midi interface is done (about 50% complete)
Anyway, I hear ya'z - just letting you know I'm trying! :nod:
27th September 2002, 03:07 AM
SOunds good Eniac, I have personally been looking forward to a software with a dedicated midi/haerdwar controller for ages. Personally I'm more into mixing clips as I find most generative stuff tends to look very SAMEY depending on the app, but yeah sounds good mate.
27th September 2002, 05:17 AM
Write an email to email@example.com and apply for a beta position. PilgrimR1 beta 2.0 will be out next monday evening (GMT+ 1) and it is huge. It's a complete 3d realtime world editor (similar to 3dstudio). You can link music to almost every parameter in the world. It features an advanced realtime graphics engine (used professionally for architecture visualisations). And best of all, it will be cheap (200- 300 dollars).
Give it a try...!
27th September 2002, 04:23 PM
What the heck are you talking about with "for ages" MoRpH???
The pretty tight C.V.A. (Clair Voyance Audience), perhaps was waiting for you for 15 years now then... Ok, this one is Japanese and maybe would not have the cute/friendly face you like, but it is a real winner in that VJ/MIDI department, so shake your lazy Aussy arse shooting it up and stop eluding learn Japanese in the trembling.
P.S. BTW, for how many time more are you gonna postpone your Japanese gigs bookings? :D
27th September 2002, 04:31 PM
HUH brainstove???? I really didn't get wot you meant with all that... maybe you could rephase it for me mate???
As for japanese bookings I never claimed to have any, wouldlove to do some shows over there though, maybe if Atros likes my english manual for TZT he'll bring me over for some shows :)
I wish I could learn japanese but I have niether the time or the inclination @ the momment, but I have a mate that reads and speak it fluently so I'm getting him over to help with some translation when he has time :)
As for lazy trembling aussi arse... I have NFT what your talking about.
27th September 2002, 05:12 PM
Hahaha, my crappy english again... :)
Just kidding you MoRpH!!
Lazy trembling aussi arse = Lazy Australian Ass
The trembling thing is for the shake state when you?ll be testing the C.V.A proggy.
And about your Japanese VJ bookings... Hehehe, I know you?d never claimed that, but I?m sure if you would handled the Japanese language before, then I could have seen some MoRpH in Japan Promo long time ago... :yep:
P.S. Shit, I think my english is worse on this post... well I know you can understand better this one :p
27th September 2002, 06:15 PM
>Lazy trembling aussi arse = Lazy Australian Ass
PFFFFT this I remind you this LAZY ASS AUSSI has almost 600 VJC points for his writings on this site mate :)
>The trembling thing is for the shake state when you?ll be testing the C.V.A proggy.
CVA hmmm think I have seen that listed on audiovisualizers.com care to give me a link.
>And about your Japanese VJ bookings... Hehehe, I know you?d >never claimed that, but I?m sure if you would handled the >Japanese language before, then I could have seen some MoRpH >in Japan Promo long time ago... :yep:
I would LOVE to gig in Japan, I also would love to learn some of the language but unfortunately its not something I have time for @ the momment :(
27th September 2002, 07:46 PM
Ooopps! my fault MoRpH, I dunno wheres that "1" number comes from, I mean 5 years is the age of the C.V.A. proggy hailing your attention around and offering you all the features you said you has been looking forward for ages in a software with a dedicated midi/haerdwar controller.
Just check the new version release here: http://www.genemagic.com/cva/
Now ElektroniKa from Aestesis seems as a good candidate to fullfill your expectations in that field too, but demanding a lot more Horsepower from your Puters/Lappys... let me know your findings anyway. :)
P.S. Yeah 600 VJC points for his writings, but just missing the C.V.A. proggy he has been looking for AGES Hehehe :p
27th September 2002, 08:09 PM
Is there confusion here? I thought maybe MoRpH meant software which has a specific hardware controller for it which matches the layout of the software etc?
27th September 2002, 11:52 PM
Nah stove your missing the point mate, I don't want an app that is using generative stuff with a generic midi controller lime CVA, or Electronika.
What I'm talking about mate is a SPECIFIC midi/hid controller DESIGNED specifically to work with a certain VJ app, I the Resolume controller that is in development.
27th September 2002, 11:53 PM
Exactly elbows..... didn't see you post there :)
28th September 2002, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by MoRpH
What I'm talking about mate is a SPECIFIC midi/hid controller DESIGNED specifically to work with a certain VJ app, I the Resolume controller that is in development. the resolume controller in development?? :confused:
28th September 2002, 06:51 AM
Ahhhhh! my mistake then, but such thing could be hard to find because the thousands of MIDI/HID controllers out there to choose from. Also any VJ app coder could fear to raise too much the price in any bundled version of his software to stay competitive with other alternatives maybe most popular than theirs.
I think it is up to the users of the most popular/bugfree VJ proggys out there ask to the authors for specific MIDI controllers hardware devices drivers or SDK software to write their owns.
Maybe some modular design a la vJo way for MIDI controllers add-ons or some plugin MIDI oriented engine could help.
Well that is the case with the current Audio/MIDI sequencers out there too, but it always was left to the users writing their specifics to customize their favourite application.
28th September 2002, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by eXhale
the resolume controller in development?? :confused:
Hehehehe.... X :cool:
brain yeah wot ever, really I'm a bit over midi and looking more into exisiting HID/directInput controllers as per my other threads anyway.
28th September 2002, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by MoRpH
Hehehehe.... X :cool:What is that supposed to mean? :confused:
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