pioneers of visuals [Archive]

Rovastar

20th September 2002, 04:50 PM

I don't mind doing something from the auto generation/winamp side of things.

Cthugha was one of the first noteable ones here is a little info on that from one of bookmarked pages. Hands up all those who remeber Cthugha.

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What is Cthugha? Well here's a summary as written in an electronic version of "Wired" magazine:

From HotWired - March, 1995:

Wavy Data
Upon first observation, oscilloscopes seems a bit ho-hum. After all, devices that graphically represent electrical waveforms on a display screen tend to fall a bit short on the sex appeal scale. But if you spend some time exploring the ways high-end oscilloscopes can visualize data, you may start to think the machines are on drugs . . . Cthugha 5.1, an oscilloscope program for PC sound cards, has tuned in, turned on, and decidedly dropped out from the humdrum world of scientific analog signal processing. The product of Australian code jock Kevin "Zaph" Burfitt, Cthugha takes your sound card's CD, line, or microphone input and displays it as a swirling, hypnotic, 256-color confection for your eyes. Although Cthugha currently requires MS-DOS, a VGA monitor, and a Sound Blaster or Gravis UltraSound sound card, the complete C source code is part of the package, so you can port it, if you're so inclined.
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Anyone

20th September 2002, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by ToddAVinIT

S'pose it was't exactly video but he did paint with light on a massive screen at one of the best clubs of its day.
What a gig!!

and you could animate those images simply by shaking your head real fast !!
:D :p :rolleyes:

NE1

ToddGraft

20th September 2002, 10:07 PM

side stepping the thread;
when I was 6....at night there was an orange LED in a fan heater. In bed I would lie with my head upside down and shake it around, creating a flyng glow worm. My Mum used to find me asleep with my head hanging over the bed.
sorry, it is friday night.
Oli you ready for Vector download

ToddGraft

20th September 2002, 11:09 PM

http://www.xlr8r.com/archive/26/26FEAT.visuals.pupil.html
these people inspired Pink Floyd

POWER TO THE PUPIL

complexvisuals

21st September 2002, 02:06 AM

1. EBN - What are they at now?

2. Making visuals by looking an electric fire - I used to think it was great (when I was 5) to squint your eyes at road lights, car headlights and basically anything else that gave a "star" to the beat of the music

3. If the projector in the club I was rez in gave up, I used to put 4 or 5 gobos on top of each other with different spins and stobes, looks very fucked up when its on your table!

And finally, back to the topic.....

4. I think Orbital were one of the first to use visuals to a large audience of people who were interested in dance/techno/music with a repeditive beat (no difference back then according to the Criminal Justice Act, UK and Ireland people know what I mean). Orbital also made visuals as big a part of their show as the lazer, lighting or even music itself. First time I saw Orbital was in the Point depot in Dublin in 1996?, the main feayure of the visuals act was of an ociliscope (not a Winamp scope, but of an actual scope with a camera pointed at it), there was no warps, blurs or anytype of 3d fx on it, just a basic physics/electroics scope, mixed in with cams (hurray *****, ure fav) and general stock stuff. Back then, before I knew I could do it, before I even tried to do it (took another 4 years to try) I thought it was amazing.

I'd like to start a new tread, if u would all like to reply to it, "WHAT MADE U GET INTO VISUALS???"

Cian
COMPLEX Visuals

MoRpH

21st September 2002, 06:59 AM

Yeah Cthuga was cool, great aussi code :)

wellREDman

21st September 2002, 09:35 AM

MORPH !
i do believe you just big upped a swirly!

wellREDman

21st September 2002, 09:38 AM

seriously, i'd really like it if in the foyer, at avit we could have a telly showing stuff from EBN, pink floyd, the orb, and any other pioneering stuff that started this whole shebang rolling, oh and my personal wow moment, Timber
if anyone has stuff of this sort please post what you have and we can start to look at the feasability

Anyone

21st September 2002, 10:34 AM

I can bring down my EBN CD-rom if you'd like...

MoRpH

22nd September 2002, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by wellREDman
MORPH !
i do believe you just big upped a swirly! Yep :D but it was 6years ago!!! I think we've moved on, a pitty others havent :p

Rovastar

22nd September 2002, 08:37 AM

Actually I think the first incarnation of Cthugha was in 9th Feb 1991!!! (Earliest map file I can find) Back then it had chunky resolution 300x200 and what not.

I think we've moved on, a pitty others havent :p

:p;)

Anyone

22nd September 2002, 08:45 AM

did you know that one of the first guy to do visuals for a band was
Andy Warhol for the Velvet Underground ?

MoRpH

22nd September 2002, 09:00 AM

yeah well as I said I stopped using it about 5-6 years ago so thats wot I was talking about, but yeah I'm sure the software was a lot older than that :)

KillingFrenzy

23rd September 2002, 03:43 AM

I find these to be very good examples content-wise of what visualists ended up doing. They're non-narrative film in a way that works very much the way visuals tend to be played out.

Man Ray - Emak Bakia (1926)
Maya Deren - Meditation on Violence (1948)
Scott Bartlett - Offon (1968)
Michael Snow - Wavelength (1967)
Chris Marker - Sans Soleil (1982)

Check out "Psych Out" - to get an idea what people were doing in 1968 with projections of patterns. I can't think of a specific other example, but you'll find LOTS of early gogo loops with a band playing and fairly complicated light-magic going on in the background.

Another place to look is in the backprojected screens and funky backdrops in old silent era and later sci-fi. All sorts of fun things pop up in the background, most of which were loose projections instead of "scripted".

That's my quick 5 cents. Too bad I can't make it to AVIT, or I could make a compilation with some history. Perhaps for the states version some day.

elbows

24th September 2002, 12:33 AM

Guerrilla News Network has lots of EBN videos available streaming online...

http://www.guerrillanews.com/ebn/

And heres what they say about EBN:

Formed during the Persian Gulf War of 1990-91, E.B.N. created its first arsenal of counter-psy-ops programming, cleverly disguised as music videos, inspired by the spectacular media frenzy surrounding the war and its aftermath. These videos were produced by the core team of Joshua L. Pearson, Gardner H. Post, and Ronald O'Donnell, with a great deal of assistance from consultant Brain Kane. After Kane departed the ranks, EBN recruited legendary software designer/musician Greg Deocampo, formerly of CoSA, creator of AfterEffects.

Created before the modern web-based media revolution, E.B.N.'s unique brand of musical sound-byte mayhem was so startlngly original that U2 asked the upstart video producers if they could open their Zoo TV tour with We Will Rock You - one of the cuts featured on this page. Soon after, they were signed to TVT Records, releasing the VHS tape "Commercial Entertainment Product" in 1992 and the enhanced CD "Telecommunication Breakdown" in 1995.

Always too far ahead of its time for its own good, E.B.N. was not able to sustain a viable income strategy which could keep up with the massive expenditures required for R&D and special hardware and software systems and, in 1998, discontinued operations as a group.

Recently, however, founder Joshua Pearson created a suite of videos about the 2000 elections in the traditional E.B.N. style... these videos, called OTV News, are now viewable at Oddcast.com. Currently, Pearson is working on special projects with GNN co-founder Josh Shore.

skyvat

30th September 2002, 06:55 PM

Joshua Light Show. Resident film/projection experts at Bill Graham's Fillmore East in New York City. I've seen pix of their rig - which was a free hanging scaffold that could hold about 6-8 people suspended from the flyspace behind the stage, banks of slide and film projectors, liquid effects. Cool stuff.

The Exploding Plastic Inevitable. Andy Warhol and The Velvet Underground. The whole New York dance/art/happenings scene of the mid/late 1960s produced a lot of inspirational projects. Not enough documentation exists, but it is worth seeking out.

LarryLightshow

1st October 2002, 04:36 AM

Ken Jacobs
experimental filmmaker whos uses several projectors
to show his "live " films
been showing since the 60's
Search for his name on google for more info....

slike

1st October 2002, 08:00 AM

Hi,

i dont know when Clock DVA began to do visuals but i think they are Visual Pioneers.
There Video "Kinetic Engeneering" (1993) is really good and they are electronic pioneers also!

Jean Michael Jarre is also a pioneer of visual art.
His Installations are really huge and he connects Projections with fireworks, Laserbeams ...
I think he is one of the man who bring up visual values to the crowd at first.

http://www.clockdva.com/collective.html

thx
Flo

eXhale

1st October 2002, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by slike
Jean Michael Jarre is also a pioneer of visual art.
His Installations are really huge and he connects Projections with fireworks, Laserbeams ...
I think he is one of the man who bring up visual values to the crowd at first.
I thought arKaos was doing his visuals??

NickT

1st October 2002, 04:53 PM

Anybody looking for real old school 60's pioneers can find links/history/how-to's via this resource link.
http://www.lightshow.cc/explorer/Resources/resources.html

Or just take a wander over if you like your lightshows 'liquid'.:D

unjulation

1st October 2002, 11:37 PM

have a play with indian inks and detergents held in re-usable glass slides, put outher objects within that slide to create that shadow efect for that real low tech funkynes, its all about heat and movement

PilotX

19th December 2002, 07:36 PM

Yep, good old Walt. Remember Fantasia? The idea behind that was that Walt Disney wanted to see what animators would put to his favourite pieces of classical music.
that was 1940. I think this is exactly what we are doing now (only not live). Check out Fantasia 2000 as well if you've not seen it as there are some fantastic anims. in that..

Tom
Syzygy Visuals

Kriel

19th December 2002, 08:21 PM

Alexander Scriabin was the first composer to introduce an independent role for a light instrument (the "Luce") into a musical score.

Scriabin - Light Symphony/Prometheus - Poem of Fire (1910)

Scriabin was a theosophist, and as such had a great interest in the concept of visual "auras". Keep in mind it was 100 years ago, before the Hippies came. The theory has been put forth that he regarded his work with the "Luce" to be the material manifestation of this theosophic notion.

Obviously, Scriabin is best remembered as a composer, and Prometheus, as it is performed in the classical repertoire, seldom includes the visual element.

I've heard that Mahler also experimented with something similar, although I can't remember the reference. Anyone know of this one?

kriel
x

holly

19th December 2002, 08:34 PM

Ooh, yeah. Fantasia was supposedly really groundbreaking for showing abstract visuals at all, that was in '41. On the DVD they mention a German(?) who was doing cubist animations that were similar, but not with the skill of the Disney studio. I'll try to dig up his name.

Warhol showed a bunch of his films at his club Exploding Plastic Inevitable (I think it was called). That's the Velvet Underground stuff. Movies like "Sleep" were originally just 16mm loops running through the projector. Later he released them as art films.

Yoko Ono did some short films set to her own music. "Fly" is about 40 minutes of a woman's body close-up while a fly crawls over her, and "Lift up your Skirts" was a film of people's butts as they walked on a treadmill.... "Match" was a 10 minute slo-mo of a match being struck.

hamageddon

19th December 2002, 09:32 PM

sounds like oskar fischinger to me, who was in fact working for disney on fantasia, but was too far ahead for the disney ppl, so they "reworked" his stuff and kicked him out.
http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/22/fischinger.html
gotta look up my notes (esp on that affair), pay the Deutsche Filmmuseum @ frankfurt a visit and get that long overdue feature for vjc going......

wallnoise

19th December 2002, 11:03 PM

theosophy - Religious theory based on mystical insight into the nature of god.
theosophist is the noun.
Don't quote me, quote Webster's.

michaelheap

20th December 2002, 11:03 AM

supprised no one has mentioned rainbow puddle and the greatful dead & ken kesey & the magic bus.
these guys were famous for their pranks involving nightclubs film, oil & water & LSD.

or the douvet brothers - early pioneers of scratch video etc. as well as some dam funky other stuff.

on the ebn front There is an interesting thing on http://www.oddcast.com/otvnews/ that some of the exmembers are heavily involved in.

krokodril

20th December 2002, 12:44 PM

Any of your own grand parents who used a magic light (dunno if thats correct english.)
magic light is a kind of pre slideshow projector, often used in pairs
though i agree with the lsd argument above, you dont need real light for a lightshow

NickT

20th December 2002, 12:54 PM

I love all that old stuff - it's right up my street, and great for 'proper' bands rather than club nights.
At Pooterland.com you'll find a great list of 60's/70's lightshow pioneers, and current lightshows still 'flying the flag'. There are also some interesting biographies and links etc. You'll also find a 'hall of fame' for equipment - so go and see how it was done (and still is done in some cases) before video and laptops made it all portable.
Reading about how they used to run 30+ slide projectors and 2 or three liquid OHP's would probably make some VJ's go pale with shock!

http://www.pooterland.com/index2/lightshow_menu/lightshow_menu.html

ExInferis

24th December 2002, 08:07 AM

VJ PETER RUBIN...he made visuals for MayDat and LoveParade.....and i thinj that he was one of the first VJs for this scene...

check it: http://www.screenclub.net/guests_PeterRubin.htm

vjpixylight

24th December 2002, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by KillingFrenzy

That's my quick 5 cents. Too bad I can't make it to AVIT, or I could make a compilation with some history. Perhaps for the states version some day.

Are you saying that you won't make it to the UK AVit ot the AVit NA-Chicago event in May?

As far as early computer generated visual artists I remeber Ed Finn ('Eye Trippen Psychedelics') puting out stuff in the mid-late 80's..
And of course, if you want to go real far back, there was Oskar Von Fischinger doing animation (1921)

lowRes

10th February 2004, 01:35 PM

can?t really tell how..
but DEVO used midi triggered video clips in one of their tours in the USA in the 80's (not sure but i think it was '83).
if someone as more on this tell me!!

hamageddon

17th February 2006, 08:47 PM

according to the Casale/Mothersbaugh commentary on "the complete truth
bout devo" they were playing to a clicktrack on the audio track of the movie projector.

sleepytom

17th February 2006, 09:38 PM

yeah midi was not even common on music equipment in '83 it was only conceived in '82 after all.

AFAIK ebn video sampler was one of the first midi video playback systems - earlier computer systems such as the BiT Bobber did not feature a midi interface. also worth mentioning from the early days of midi controlled visuals are the classics such as xpose, aestisis, and midual which grew into VJamm. All of these things were going on around 1996/7

deepvisual

18th February 2006, 04:46 AM

Projecters were used almost exclusively for cinema projection until
the 1960s , which is a bit odd - a little like using record players but only in concert halls - unimaginative to say the least. in all fairness, the old carbon arc cine projectors were often made of cast iron so they arent too easy to move.

You could say that the advent of the VCR was responsible for the birth of Vjing but the thing that kicked off lightshows was the widespread use of LSD.

people soon began moving projectors and lights around. People like Bill Ham.

http://www.billhamlights.com/

The worlds first discotheque was called Love Saves the Day ( LSD) and ran by david mancino - a devotee of timothy leary- he played records, controlled the lights, used smoke and even turned the air conditioning off and on to the music.

the rest is history

http://www.pooterland.com/index2/lightshow_menu/lightshows/lightshows.html

Anyone

18th February 2006, 08:54 AM

Facinating...!

dansmachine

18th February 2006, 09:18 AM

sleepytom

18th February 2006, 09:32 AM

see also Norman McLaren (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0572235/bio) as an early pioneer of abstract / audio syncronised animation.

bryandod

18th February 2006, 06:34 PM

"supprised no one has mentioned rainbow puddle and the greatful dead & ken kesey & the magic bus.
these guys were famous for their pranks involving nightclubs film, oil & water & LSD."

In my opinion, Ken Kesey and his band of Merry Pranksters are perhaps the most important influence to this psycedelic side of this field. Thanks to Ken Kesey, Owsley Stanley and others, huge numbers of people began to appreciate abstract visuals and music. Neither Pink Floyd or the Beatles would be the same without this element.

hamageddon

18th February 2006, 08:31 PM

Don't know for sure, but wasn't that Walter Ruttmann?
no, he wasn't.
http://vjforums.com/showpost.php?p=10764&postcount=32

He made fabulous animations in the early twenties, and later in his carreer he worked with Leni Riefenstahl at her masterpiece 'Triumph des Willens' before directing propagandadocumentaries for the army.
his material was never used in the film.

hamageddon

18th February 2006, 08:36 PM

see also Norman McLaren (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0572235/bio) as an early pioneer of abstract / audio syncronised animation.
and Len Lye
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len_Lye

dansmachine

18th February 2006, 08:57 PM

Hamageddon you're right, it was Fischinger.

I don't understand the second remark you made; is it about Fischinger/Fantasia or Ruttmann/Triumph? About the latter: he cowrote the scenario with Riefenstahl and directed some studio-sequences (I don't know which).

hamageddon

18th February 2006, 11:21 PM

I don't understand the second remark you made; is it about Fischinger/Fantasia or Ruttmann/Triumph? About the latter: he cowrote the scenario with Riefenstahl and directed some studio-sequences (I don't know which).

sorry, left out the most important word
the material he *directed* never made it to the Film,
he's still credited for writing to Flim together with Riefenstahl
he continued doing propaganda movies till his death 1941
but somehow this propaganda work didn't damage his reputation,
nowadays he's remberered as the maker of the legendary
"Berlin: Die Sinfonie der Gro?stadt (1927)" and the
experimental Opus I-IV (1921-1925).... indeed pioneering
work....

dansmachine

19th February 2006, 09:11 AM

Aah, didn't know 'his' parts never made it to the final cut. Thanks for the info. I hope those sequences survived the years and can be seen sometimes, somewhere.

If you ever get the chance, try to see his abstract animations (Opus I-IV, and you'll understand immediately why I thought it was him who got recruited by Disney).
I'm pretty curious for Ruttmann's films he shot at the eastern front. Is anything left of the author's vision?

Anyone

19th February 2006, 09:37 AM

In the same 'filmic' genre, Kenneth Anger is also an unmissable reference...

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cat

19th February 2006, 09:54 AM

Mark and Joan Boyle were making performances incorporating film and slides, and projected chemical reactions from 1964, and did visuals for SoftMachine, the UFO, and Jimi Hendrix. This was my particular route into visuals after seeing some pictures of their projections.
Barry Spinello was creating handpainted 16mm films, including painting into the soundtrack section for syncronised AV in the 70's
Ken Knownton was making computer generated films in the 70's.
John Whitney used and "analogue computer" in the 60's moved into some IBM computer visuals in the 70's, as well as 16mm before that
There are many others, I reccommend Experimental Animation an illustrated anthology by Robert Russet and Cecile Starr, ISBN 0-442-27195-6, if you want to know more about the pioneers, you will notice that little separates their investigations and ours except, for us its commercially viable whereas many of them had to do this in their spare time.
Has anyone mentioned Stan Brakhage? I love his stuff!
pooterland is the internet archive for lightshows though, definatly worth having a browse through.

hamageddon

19th February 2006, 01:57 PM

Ray and Charles Eames
http://www.archive.org/movies/thumbnails.php?identifier=communications_primer
pretty proto vj, huh? ;)

deepvisual

19th February 2006, 03:17 PM

did we forget to mention the magic lantern shows??

http://www.magiclantern.org.uk/history6.htm

pre-cinema, projections were used to create blind panic as ghosts and demons were conjoured up by the Phantasmagorie....

I often wonder why there was such a long period between the magic lantern shows and the 60s lightshows?

cat

19th February 2006, 03:47 PM

Ah of course!
I saw some magic lantern slides that looked like optikinetics patterns on an antiques TV show once, and they had others with little armatures on characters etc!
I think the gap was because of film making everything even more real! In the 60's people started looking beyond the frame! I'm aways amused by how video has made us get caught within the frame again, when I started I used to 360 projections as a matter of course (and floors and ceilings)! Then again they're getting so cheap, (and brighter than the projectors I used to use) its possible to do it again I suppose, its just those bloody pixels elongating along non flat screens!

djnada

20th February 2006, 02:38 AM

I was doing some research for something I'm currently writing (a chapter for another art book, go figger) and I happened on the stereoscope. Stereoscopics dated back to 1833.

Check this link:

http://www.deepimages.com/3d_history.htm

Cool.

Also, Cordoba, Spain. Possibly one of the world's first "light shows" -
In 936 caliph Abdul Rahman decided he needed a new residential town, and had built Medina Azahara, at that time the largest town in all the region, by 10.000 workers within 25 years. 4.300 columns, all of them originating from older buildings in all the Mediterranean area, were used.
On top of a hill there was the palace, Alcazar Califal, below the administrative district with parks and gardens, while the actual town was located in the flat land. Chroniclers tell us about the extraordinary beauty of the palaces "Throne Hall" and "Golden Salon", both with arcs of ebony and ivory and ornaments of marble, gold and precious stones. In the center there was a basin filled with mercury, which reflected the rays of sunshine.
But this colossal work existed for only 74 years - then it was conquered and destroyed by the Bereberes. Most of the artworks were stolen, and many of them were later on integrated in the many palaces of Cordoba.
Medina-Azahara was all but forgotten, until archaeologists started to excavate it in 1910.

fALk

20th February 2006, 05:15 PM

sorry its in german and some of the sites are protected as I am not finished with the piece but over the last couple of years I collected everything that had to do anything with the history of vjing... back from the cave drawings til today.. I am sure I missed out some "vjs" or people close to the art and to call some vjs is a bit of a stretch but for me those people and their gear seemed to influence the "art of vjing" in a special way... have a look...

http://www.prototypen.com/wiki/CoMa.php?CoMa=GeschichteDerAudioVisuellenKuenste

dansmachine

20th February 2006, 07:27 PM

fALK the list shown is impressive but unfortunately I couldn't read any of the clicked links...

cat

21st February 2006, 11:02 AM

We ought to mention Jeff Minter as well
http://www.llamasoft.co.uk/lightsynths.php first one was released in 1984 for the atari, first i saw was the Trip-o-tron, and obviously he's still going strong, having coded neon for th X box!
And on the Central pages someone has mentioned Elan Performer, which I've never seen but apparently was a drag clips to keys for playback triggering and was released around 1987, another amiga program, beating macs and Pc's by what nearly 10 years!
And my favorite Videotracker, which was probably the first AV sampler/sequencer, as you could load your octamed module and trigger and arrange your clips and effects in time with the samples, it of course used amigas fabulous HAM modes allowing almost photo realistic colours from 64 or 256 colour modes, and hardware blitter fx.
Looks like a great list fALK, shame my german's virtually non existant! A history wiki is probably a great idea, to put everything in order!

fALk

21st February 2006, 01:22 PM

fALK the list shown is impressive but unfortunately I couldn't read any of the clicked links...

as said: sorry for the locked off stuff I have to verify and recheck things - I just thought the topic is "names of people" and for that the list is a contribution to the topic ;) the actual content is layout out in a 65 page online book soon to be "published" for free and in german. but I have to recheck everything before I go live with it. The accompanion vj history only wiki site to be filled in by everyone that will also be german AND english... takes all time which I will have from march 1st. Right now I am wrestling with my hoster to get mediawiki working after that I will release the PDF and then slowly fill in the details and then hope others fill in the rest... so a little patency I am on the case and further then I ever was and hope to give birth to an actual wikipedia style online resource for the history of well whatyacallit synesthesian art, vjing, livecinema... give me three weeks... btw there are some exclusive email exchanges with still living artists in that document that I will release and also some footage from machines from the 70s not on the web yet so it will be highly interesting I hope... And there is the cave drawing connection which is the most exiting thing in the whole but more soon... :P

dansmachine

21st February 2006, 01:29 PM

Very interesting fALK, keep us posted because I'll read your works for sure (and german language is not a problem at all).

Miguelo619

21st February 2006, 05:20 PM

[QUOTE=hamageddon]hm, don't know if michelangelo is a pioneering vj, but these 2 german guys
are:

hans richter
http://artnetweb.com/abstraction/film.html

Now that you mention him...

If anyone wants to see actual video instead of screen grabs:

http://accentfeed.blogspot.com/2006/01/rhytmus-21-by-hans-richter.html

Sorry if this was posted before.

carry on..

vjpixylight

22nd February 2006, 04:17 AM

nice one Miguelo619

djnada

22nd February 2006, 09:05 PM

Was the music in the original Hans Richter film, or was that added later.

I dunno when sound came to film...

Oh, my bad.... It was composed in 2005, as it says in the end credits.

Thanks so much for this enlightening example of very early experimental film!

Anyone

22nd February 2006, 10:09 PM

In the same vein as Richter, Man Ray is a personal favorite

hamageddon

23rd February 2006, 08:02 AM

Was the music in the original Hans Richter film, or was that added later.
I dunno when sound came to film...
Lichtton was used from 1930 on , first demonstration was eight years earlier

Oh, my bad.... It was composed in 2005, as it says in the end credits.

while i can def recommend that the 2 DVD set "Avant Garde - Experimental Cinema of the 1920s & 1930s" from kino international, i also recommend to turn the audio track off most of the time ;)

Thanks so much for this enlightening example of very early experimental film!
well, as much as i much respect Hans Richter's work his rhythmus films are IMHO pretty lame compared to Ruttmanns Opus and Eggelings Diagonal-Symphonie
http://www.jahsonic.com/VikingEggeling.jpg