hardware video samplers

[brain]

hi,

does anybody know about hardware that samples video sequences? i'm really interested in standalone hardware that responds quick (like button push - rec / button push - play)

i know most people will use laptops for that by now, but i still don't like to work with menues and software on a live set.

the only stuff i know about was/is created by some TINY german company:

http://www.mfberlin.de/Produkte/Videonachbearbeitung/videonachbearbeitung.html

this sounds great! (sorry, german only :) )

i just found that and i really wonder what else is out there. maybe there are a few people more who still appreciate pushin' buttons on weird boxes :)

i think about contactin' these guys about the possibilties to develop some sampler that will fulfill all the needs of fast and fun vj live playing - like a set of separate samples, scratching...

i'm now waiting for one of their devices, which i just got at ebay :D

bye brain

[fisheye]

check alpeg... a dedicated mpeg2 harddisk player

fisheye

[Meierhans]

.. but:

- a little expensive (close to a new PC??)

- you can`t trigger / loop clips separetly ???

- when using the harddisk version, you will perhabs also have latencies??

Perhabs if there will be a special VJ version, nosound, single clips and smooth price ;)
But it would be still cool to have one.

:cool:

[secretsauce]

I built a dps Pvr system into a 15 inch touch screen panel pc with a magma pci extender. It cost about 4 grand though. That's probably way insane, right? But I wanted beta sp quality with capture and playback not to metion I can edit films with it. Yeah DPS said it was impossible, but I found the only computer in the world that can do it.

On other fronts the is the lunchbox which basically looks like a lunch box and records video to ram. It's used a lot for stop motion animation and it's super tough and ultra easy. again not cheap

Finally check out ICP america. The manufacture industrial PCs. They are release a new sweet computer that has 4 channels of mpeg2 capture and one play back. All in what is termed as a wafer PC. Basically the whole computer fits in a 5 1/4 inch drive bay. Yes Its that small with built in video, lan serial, usb, and it even boots of a smartdisk (basically a solid state memory hard drive) But It's not for the timid at heart.

good luck.

[MoRpH]

Brain check out the thread on the FX box that per-i and I are hoping to develop.

[brain]

hey morph,

thanks, i'd like to, but where is it?
just found something about development startin soon...

brain

[wellREDman]

secretsauce, welcome to another PVR user, theyre the bomb aint they,
were you aware you can use vjamm1 to drive it instead of the native clip player ?
gves you much finer pitch control fwd/backwarsds and scratching, plus midi control
you have to buy the full vjam pro package tho, to get the resolution unrestrictd version of vjamm

[brain]

hello there,

i just posted a review on a sampling device:

http://www.vjcentral.com/hardware/show/1676

this thing looks like a joke but is veryvery cool, at least for me. I may appear as some kind of nerd by now, but i still prefer standalone hardware to computers and software (simply because i work all day with one and like to do things different in my spare time :) )

i'm looking for other people who are into hardware solutions, samplers and weird effect units. the rebelle approach sounds cool to me, but i still can't figure out if its really worth the price or if you could just use some old fucked up hardware, wire it up all the wrong way, and get fun results (like i do most times :D )

i think about contactin these MFB guys in berlin about some collaboration on a TRUE VJesque video sampler/effect unit. for sure, they really know how to handle complicated issues single handed... anyone interested in joining the process, contact me.

your
brain

[moon]

hi there

i sent a mail to pioneer asking whether they know
of a dvd player that would let me generate a clean a loop
[as all players seems to offer a/b-repeat, unfortunately
sometimes up to a couple of seconds delay between frame
b and a].
some [probably marketing] guy wrote back "we're definitely
aware of the problem and have got our pro-dvd-player named
DVD-V7300D to offer " ...
does anyone know this machine ?
guess most people like me can't or don't wan't to pay ? 1.500 for
the bastard.

[elbows]

I dont know it myself but it certainly sounds powerful:

http://www.pioneeraus.com.au/multimedia/products/dvd-video/dvd-v7300d/dvd-v7300d_prod.htm

[KillingFrenzy]

I've played with one of these... and it has some nice features that you would probably never use, and some other functions that didn't seem that great.

On the plus side -
It is frame accurate and controllable with a standard rs232 cabling. So, if you were doing editing with it, it would be great. I.e. you can construct an EDL and the timecode will be consistent and useable without having to dump the DVD to tape.

As for mixing.

As much as it talks about seek speeds, it didn't seem to jump around much quicker then a typical DVD player (perceptually). It took just as long, if not longer to weedle through the opening menus, and because for the first week I was trying to play with it someone had misplaced the remote (I found a programmable one) I couldn't access most of the features.


So my overall report would be for a big thumbs up for editing or frame syncing playback with other machines, but otherwise it won't really do what you wanted it to do, which is work as a quick, looping playback device.

Anybody thought about, or tried using a FireStore?

http://www.focusinfo.com/products/firestore/firestore.htm

You can chain firewire drives to it, which sounds tempting... what with 200gig drives available.