Gig Name POLL

[eXhale]

OK, after some long discussions on the chatroom we dediced to stick with *8* names. I'm putting them on a poll so everyone can make the final decision. Be sure to vote (intelligently ;)) because if we have only 3 votes, it just won't work!

Thanks!

We are almost there!


PS: if half of the names start with "v", it's because, in our drunken madness (well for huo and unjulation, anyway), we realized that the V letter is the most important letter for us, since it is used for visuals, video, VJ and viewsician. I hope you understand ;)

[spark]

shouldn't that be 'visuals02' not 01?

(guess what i'm voting for...)

[eXhale]

Well 01 or 02, don't know yet... We thought that if we start to organize more than 1 gig per year, using a number rather than a year made more sense. It probably won't happen, but you never know ;)

[hamageddon]

dontcha worry i corrected my vote from yestersday
after i slept over it, i liked the various interprations behind
vgeneration (the art of video generation vs. vjs as the video
generation) more than the catchy vgen....

i second sparks comment on the "01" thing
IMHO not really wise giving away that this is primetime
but ok just "Visuals" as a header would be even more
lame than VJS :)

eyemotion in the sense of ey-e-motion is quite nice tho....

bah, may the best name win ;)

[eXhale]

ey-e-motion ??? with the 'e' for electronic?

That would make 4 words in a single word :cool:
(eye, motion, emotion, electronic)

[Anyone]

surprised myself....

voted for Visuals01
guess from a punters point of view,
it needs to be quite explicit...

and not too hippy-trippy like
eye-motion or VJ unity

V rooms, BTW (my idea)
sounds to much like an motor engine starting:rolleyes:

that was my honest opinion,
hope not to have ruffed any feathers...

NE1

[eXhale]

I have to admit vDay is my favourite but seeing how I am the only one with this opinion, I made a more strategic vote :p

[spark]

just to throw a spanner in the works, i quite like the VMC that just came up on the name thread... no miami music conference but visuals music conference.

[hamageddon]

Originally posted by eXhale
ey-e-motion ??? with the 'e' for electronic?

That would make 4 words in a single word :cool:
(eye, motion, emotion, electronic)

nah, that's was just to emphase the different
possible readings. whoever's going to design
the typo, should take care of this fact.
hm.... if this horse wins the race, i might
perhaps come up with a graphic idea 4 this....

[eXhale]

Originally posted by hamageddon
nah, that's was just to emphase the different
possible readings. whoever's going to design
the typo, should take care of this fact.
hm.... if this horse wins the race, i might
perhaps come up with a graphic idea 4 this.... my manager suggested designing an eye on the first "o" of motion, to put more emphasis on the visual part. :)

aaargh spark it took us 2 hours to come with this list, we are not going to do it all over again :p ok, ok, i'm adding VMC to the list because it's a cool name after all, although i think we should rather avoid acronyms (?) and use the full name (visuals music conference). i also have the feeling it will tend to confuse people who don't know about the WMC and who might think that there is no party but only conferences.

lemme throw some propaganda about vDay (pronounced VeeDay a bit like VeeJay ;)). what's good with this name is that it could be changed depending on the type of gig we do. for example if we once do a gig across several days, we could call it "vDays" and if we do a tour, we could call it "vTour". it all sounds great... the name is also very simple and it doesn't have too much meaning & yet with a good sub-title people would immediately associate it with visuals (for example "a day of celebration of visuals"). see also my rant about the letter "v" on my first post. in particular for the gig we do in Leeds, vDay would work well because it's going to extend through the whole day (if we do one of the future gig only during the night, we could call it vNight ;)) ...

i like a lot eyeMotion but my main issue with this name is that i think people will associate it immediately with clubs/raves, so it would prevent us to expand it to other kind of music and also it doesn't represent at all the workshops and installation we will do during the day. vDay has all the advantages that the "Visuals01" name has, except it's a bit less generic and more marketable. it's also very short so it would give a lot of freedom to design the logo.

ahhhh i like this name too much, i'm going to edit the poll and change my vote. if anyone else has been convinced by my propaganda and wants to change their vote, let me know ;)

[eXhale]

http://www.videkaos.com/vday.gif

[spark]

don't want to piss on your fire, but v-something in Britain means the virgin brand. there even have been virgin sponsored festivals called v99 etc.
not saying they would get heavy on us, but its not an presumption we want people to make.

also i *really* don't think a name like eyemotion would go down well over here... just a certain brit sensibility i can't explain.

[eXhale]

maybe virgin could sponsor us :p hahaha

more seriously, i very much doubt that virgin has all the rights on the letter 'v'... also don't forget it's the name for an international projects anyway :) virgin may be big in UK but here i only know of the virgin cola and virgin records...

[elbows]

A search of the net for vday reveals it is an international movement to stop violence against women, I dont know if this would be a problem.

[eXhale]

Oh well, never mind then :( Forget about my rant...

[eXhale]

I'm closing the poll in 12 hours, tomorrow morning european time. Please vote if you haven't done so already!! Even if you can't make the gig, this name might be used for other gigs made in other places so it's important! The poll had 146 views and only 14 votes! And if you don't like the names here, you should have sugested other names earlier, we don't have time to discuss this issue forever. Thanks

PS: I reverted back my vote from vDay to eyeMotion, considering that vDay was already taken.

[labmeta]

I know this is a vote and i dont want to seem a harsh on a name others like but i would like to rally people not to go for the eyemotion name. i really feel it would put us at a disadvantage in a uk/leeds public space. The name suggests a certain type of content to me and i think we need to go for something thats gonna be a lot more generic to represent the variety that we can all bring to the event. Especially if this is going out at the same time as the leeds film festi, it makes me think of party visuals rather than video artists and i fear we could be catagorised or lose respect just over a name.

Written with prayer like hope!

[spark]

hear hear, my sentiment writ large. its not so much that i prefer one over the other aesthetically, its that i think that the one would kill the crowd...

maybe i'm wrong, maybe i'm being a bit facist, but thats what i feel and its the vibe i've picked up from the uk ppl i've run this past.

toby

[phluxm]

Sorry to be brutal, but none of the names inspire me to go off and watch VJs at work... dunno what to suggest other than... (Too many cooks spoil the broth) - Projects need leaders who are individuals who make the decisions (wether they are right or wrong). Too many oppinions make attitudes bland.

Suggestions are good but at the end of the day we need a leader, who says 'yay' or 'nay'. Polls make for boring results... sorry, but I have enthusiasm for the event and think that we (as VJing underdogs) need an upfront, in ya face, 'check dis shit out' name. VJing is exciting, experimental, new and exceptional - we need a name that demonstrates that, even if it's just in a reference to a community of belivers.

Also agree with Spark - 'EyeMotion' would die a death in UK. We want to be revolutionary, not archaic.

The message should be - we are the future - of cinema, DJing, multimedia and and your night life - so listen up!

[LEVLHED]

hey, thats what I wanted to say! thanks for saying it for me, so I can just say "what he said"...and also sorry I can't think of something "better" off hand...

::hopes the fliers aren't already made::

snicker

[eXhale]

Ahhh! Right at the moment when I'm supposed to close the poll, there is a 7-7 tie between eyeMotion and Visuals01. Have to admit that I am not too excited by "eyeMotion" either, but "Visuals01" sounds even more generic and boring than "VJ" :p I *really* liked vDay though...

Regard phluxm's comment, "Suggestions are good but at the end of the day we need a leader", I agree that there is a moment when someone (or some people) have to take a decision but we also need people who take some time to think about a name otherwise there is nothing to take a decision on. If the names on the list don't appear too original, it's because only a few people really took the time to think about it (I spent hours personally...) and the brainstorming sessions hasn't been much of a "storm".

I don't know what to do then... We can't get stuck on a name forever while there are much more essential things to do. I guess I'll leave the poll open then. I'm leaving for a week to Barcelone (for the Benicassim festival) in a few hours, but if you find a great name in the meanwhile, go for it! :)

[unjulation]

sorry i haven't been part of the nameing 'cos i thought that it might make people take the project on as there own but i can see it's just causeing waferling, ah well, anyway i'm realy not botherd about the name myself, got to meny outher things to sort out, and nameing things have nevere been my strong point,
anyway a word of warning to all there will have to be some sort of press release soon for the film festi as i told people a month or two ago, so some dissions will have to be made soon and if people have still not agread about names etc then i'll just choose and be damed :)

[labmeta]

Someone suggested a name to me last nite, thought i`d throw it to the forum. AVIT (audio visual information transmission)

[phluxm]

AVIT - now there's a better name. Did a night myself called K!N-AV!T (as in "fuckin' have it!") which also stood for Audio Visual Information Technology... spooky.

Great minds think... ;)

[MoRpH]

Followed by a huge international one called AVIT LARGE!!! :p

[wellREDman]

likewise "what he said "
AVIT works for me
I wanna change my vote!

[hamageddon]

AVit? fine with me. maybe we can close this poll, if unj seconds that?

[elbows]

Likewise Id be happy with AVIT :)

[spark]

cool and the gang. well, i'm down for sorting the promo page which includes a proper logo, and i love AVIT... so lets say its still open to suggestions, but i'll avit large with some gfx soon... as can y'all too. paul visnaut - buy whoever said that a pint, aye!

[unjulation]

fine by me :)

[LEVLHED]

in my opinion, the acronym is "so-so", but what it stands for is "dead-on", so go fer it! don't think it will get much better than that...

[elbows]

Getting past the naming stage will be a major boost - I have lost track of the number of ideas that have never got done because I could not come up with a name good enough to keep me positive about the planned venture.

I drank some Vodka so my taste filters cannot tell whether the following idea is great or pootang, but anyway...

AVIT could stand for different things depending on the part of the event we are talking about.

for example:

Audio Visual Interactive Tour (better word than tour? Theatre? Trancathon, damn why doesnt workshop start with T)

Audio Visual Informal Talk (not happy with that either maybe information transmission is best here)

Hmm as you can see my idea has already gone wrong, thats alcohol for you! Maybe I can refine it tomorrow when sober, maybe one of you will fix it, maybe someone will put it out of its misery and shoot it :D

[spark]

its cool; it doesn't need to stand for anything beyond the play on 'have it' and 'audio-visual it'...

so i'm moving onto the gfx stage, logo etc. if anyone is inspired, then feel free to drop me some doodles over the next few days... i will post some work in progress when able, prob after the weekend.

oh, and mr bows, tell me about it: 'Getting past the naming stage will be a major boost - I have lost track of the number of ideas that have never got done because I could not come up with a name good enough to keep me positive about the planned venture.' hey, i can work with AVIT!

[infopocalypse]

I wanted VMC... it might stand for Visuals or Video (pref Video) music conference but just the initial are much better.

[infopocalypse]

video music is a huge twist mentally... it's not music video... stops people makes them think.

[hamageddon]

ok, i closed the poll thinking the positive resonance was convincing. let's AViT then. looking FWD to revolting developments :)

[phluxm]

Eye, me Hearties!! Tha Goodship 'Leeds Gig' be back on track. And behold what be that..? Land ahoy! All hands on deck and no more scrubbing in the back lads..!

[eXhale]

I like AVIT, looking forward to see what spark does with the logo :) Doing a domain search, all the avit domain names are taken except .info (but it sucks), but we could register a domain name like avit2002.com or avit01.com? what would be better?

[Anyone]

did you check avit.co.uk or avit.org.uk ?

[eXhale]

Hmm nope, forgot to check this. avit.co.uk is taken but avit.org.uk is available. I guess that if the website is only for this gig, using such a domain would be alright. Anyone know a good registrar for .uk domain names?

[elbows]

www.123reg.co.uk

[spark]

here's a proposal:

i'll buy avit.org.uk, sort it out as i'm effectively responsible for that site anyway, and as a return i get to hold on to the address once the gig has passed. whatcha reckon?

cheers,

toby

[spark]

hi hi,

here is the first idea i had. what i'm trying to do is get a generic logo-icon that can be used as the trademark between the different advertising for the different event/areas. ie i'm trying to get something very compact, square even, and work b/w small. i'm not thinking of it being an acronym, i want to use it as 'AV it' and havin' it, designs for which will evolve off this central id.

please comment or offer your own ideas...

[LEVLHED]

I like the version on the lower right of the two collumns, where the letters all are very similar....
also like the concept of making it more "icon-ic" than "acronym-ic"

[eXhale]

Cool spark, just make sure you enter the following nameservers when registering so I can host the site on the server. Also let me know when you register the domain :)

ns1.rackshack.net
ns2.rackshack.net

Some cool ideas for the logo, I also like the one at the bottom of the second column, although the T looks too much like a C (LEVLHED seems to have forgotten it was a T!). There is lots of potential anyway, I'm sure you'll find something awesome :p

[unjulation]

cool stuf matey, 3rd from botem left, but all good stuf you chose, are you up for doing the flyer when it comes around to that time?

[ToddGraft]

he he,
was gonna put in a name "A Site 4 Sore Eyes" but that is a name of nights I promote in Nottinghill, and I was willing to drop it for the cause. my co promoters won't let me now.
But I vote A.V.I.T.......its perfect!

yours

Todd
Audio Visuals in Information Technology
AVinIT Ltd

[unjulation]

Audio.Visual.lnteractive.Terrorism. :D

A.V.I.T.

(and the next interpritation is......)

[vandeti]

okey .. so AVIT is is ??

cool


now for the website .. I have a server here with php, mySql, java, .. installed on it .. ready to be used

soo if you want webspace for the event .. just let me now and the space is yours !

if you want a a design for the site .. no prob .. I've got some spare time left and I'm willing to do it (course for free)

just keep me updated

[spark]

just to say we've got avit.org.uk

i've working out of cafe's at the mo... sporadic access 4 me.