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Lara
16th September 2003, 06:36 AM
Okay, since we have decided to have separate feedback and awards for the sunday (see here):

http://www.vjforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=3864


>>>This is a very important bit from Mondo:

"usually in instances where there are a lot of artbods together ...a "creative user" approach is a good option.

questionnaires, voxpops, roving dv cams to record as many bits of avit as poss...for future use/marketing etc...gauge opinions, scenes, etc etc

from three days of feedback from punters, vjs, djs, the dog outside, etc it'll be obvious what is hot and what is not.

doesnt have to lead to a nice gong or anything but feedback/mutual recognition is crucial to keep us all going. and it doesnt just fall to a few select judges either"

Lara
16th September 2003, 06:39 AM
So we need to decide what sort of areas would be commented on by a questionnaire? Including 'hot topics' like sampling etc, and the personal/technical achievements of vjs performances. . .

>originality
>creative visualisation
>content production, effectiveness visually and in terms of 'production values'
>people doing outstanding things with kit

:help:

:yep:

PilotX
17th September 2003, 10:00 AM
I think that if we are asking punters at the nighttime gig then areas like matching the feel/flow of the music/night would be worth touching on.

will let you know any other thoughts I have

mondo
17th September 2003, 09:50 PM
the sort of things vjs (and others) tend to look for are : (in no particular order)

are you a vj/dj/musician/visual artist/punter/promoter/other?
are you 15-20/21-25/26-30/31-35/36-40/41+ ?
are you student/professional/etc etc/ none of these?
where are you based? ie. london, uk. chicago, usa. etc

why did you come to check out this vj performance?
did the music do justice to the visuals (or vice versa)
was it beat synched or not ?
did it flow or was it jerky?
was it fun/enjoyable to watch?
- did it uplift?

did the narritive make sense (if there was one)
was the use of imagery appropriate?
sampled footage - was there too much/just right/too little/dont know/care?
created footage - was there too much/just right/too little/dont know/care?
what imagery stood out and made you go ..."wow - thats cool!"
(ie. "what was hot?")
conversely "what was not?"
was it difficult to take your eyes away from the screen(s)?
was the vj a good performer on stage? why?
did the vj use the hardware kit on stage? yes/no/dont know

would you go and see the vj again based on the performance you have seen?
would you go and see the vj again based on the visuals you have seen?

name.......e mail address........
would you like avit to keep you infrormed of future vj events?
er....ill think of some more but keep it to one side of A4

Lara
18th September 2003, 03:45 AM
I think this critique is by vjs for vjs, so it will be a questionnaire for vjs taking part at avit, not punters. I think that was the general idea in the last thread. Does anyone have any objections to this? It is difficult logistically to review a 3day festival asking punters esp because we are spread across venues etc.

But the ideas are all good, cheers Mond ;)

So what do you look for when you watch another vjs performance?

PilotX
18th September 2003, 03:54 AM
I thought that was the case Lara, but i thought I'd check as well :)

what do I look for in another vj's set? I think that alot of the time I am looking for something that makes me ask 'how did they do that?' and then makes me go away and try to do something similar myself. How you would put this into a questionairre I don't know..
I find it really hard to break these kinds of things down, because I don't usually know why I particularly liked a vj's set, it might come down to their use of colour, or a particular loop they have that has made me smile.

perhaps that could be a question.. what made you smile the most

will chip back in with any other thoughts I have

mondo
18th September 2003, 04:34 AM
i think punters would be quite happy to fill in a similar questionnaire myself. they are taking part in the event are they not just by being there.

therefore they will have some idea of whats going on.

a hand out with receipt of tickets at teh door and given back at teh end is a good way i guess. (though it could get into a stampede at the end)

if every venue has some sheets, some will get filled in - makes them all feel part of teh event.

ill happily use the photocopier here if you need paper

:nod:

and anyway...vjs on vjs is ok is it not? objective is to try and get as much feedback as poss froom whoever is there imho

Lara
19th September 2003, 10:34 PM
Mmmmmm, I don't want to take on the task of creating, photocopying and handing out questionnaires to punters at various venues simultaneously, that that will probably end up all over the floor. Vjs have enough opportunities to get feedback from the crowd at their own gigs- what's special about avit is the sheer number of vjs brought together. Of course it would be good to get as many views as possible, but I don't know if its practical . . . .

How's this feedback going to be presented? We could do a report orally, or written, or pick out and embarrass a few of the stars over lunch! It would be easier I think to present the results over lunch, and have a report downloadable from the web for those who want it . . . especially as some people remain unconvinced about the merit of these awards at all (you know who you are ;) )!

I will draft something today, but please help me out because I have some pretty obvious biases and leanings and this should be as collaborative as possible.

I wish it could be part of a debate about how we evaluate other people's visuals . . . hmmm maybe another sister thread. ;)

holly
20th September 2003, 12:49 AM
Personally, I liked Mondo's part about
- was there too much/just right/too little/dont know/care?
That sort of thing makes it easier to get the info, more like a poll.

The "what's hot/What's not?" could always get a little personal, but I expect that the write-in parts of the ballot will be less used, and hopefully when many conflicting reports are in these catagories it will soften the blow.

Lara
20th September 2003, 01:38 AM
Yeah I know what you mean, Holly. I didn't even think about evaluating each vjs performance, just an overview of the night, and what people thought were the most memorable bits and why . . . .

Perhaps a sheet saying a set list: Lara 10-11pm, Mondo 11-12pm, Holly 12-1am, PilotX 1-2am etc etc, then a list of questions/categories like the ones that have been suggested: use of colour, use of sampling, use of narrative . . . Then the vjs are picking out only 'what's hot' so I might tick the boxes to say I liked Holly's use of colour, Mondo's use of sampling, PilotX's use of narrative, and why . . .

Would that work? Would it be enough? It might be a bit of a chore to evaluate everyone's set individually, and as you say . . . a bit harsh.

Lara
20th September 2003, 01:38 AM
Oh and check out this sister thread:

http://www.vjforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=3972

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