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Doctorp
30th August 2003, 10:53 AM
We are an established band in the Denver, Colorado area called the Sons of Armageddon that is looking for a VJ to become the 6th member of our group. We are heavily electronica based with live bass, drums and trumpet. We are using circuit bent instrumentation and other experimental instruments to boldly go where no band has gone before. We would like to add a like-minded individual to produce the visual interest we need.

Is anyone out there?:alien:

vjrei
30th August 2003, 02:32 PM
I know how Dever looks like, I saw it in South Park episode:rolleyes:

Look, I'm a musician too and I'm one of the one supporting that the future of VJs are with bands like yours.

Now, a VJ is not a musician and doesn't have to go to all the reharsal (sorry about my English), even the visuals are music based the pre production process is different.

The best way to approach this is sending you a tape or CD with your music first to the interested VJs. Then if the VJ feel inspired you can set up a few things, specially about the cost of the production.

If you have a gig that will produce some money to pay the VJ and after sending the material back and forward, you can call the VJ a week before the event to see and fix any detail. We as VJ are very good fixing video material.

That scenario if for some one out of town. If you find some one in your area this are a bit better. I would use my regular footage until see how things work out with the band. You know, I'm asuming you do not have a big budget.

It is good you have such vision, to work with a band is a very fun thing to do, you can use projectors or tvs, there are a lot of stuff a VJ can do to improve the band performance.

Good luck.

wellREDman
30th August 2003, 10:23 PM
theres a regular on these boards from colorado called VJpixylight,

but umfortunately at the moment hes travelling in the uk and europe so i guess hes not online very often, im hoping to catch up with him whilst hes here so ill tell him about this thread :)

LEVLHED
1st September 2003, 04:17 AM
hey, sounds like my kinda band/project! unfortunately I'm in (fucking) Wisconsin...my buddy VJ An-Ism is in Boulder I think, but maybe Denver..can never remember www.an-ism.com (looks like he's been slackin';) ) I'll PM you his email addy...

syzygy
1st September 2003, 04:45 AM
Originally posted by vjrei

Now, a VJ is not a musician and doesn't have to go to all the reharsal (sorry about my English), even the visuals are music based the pre production process is different.


I have to disagree with you slightly there rei - I really liked what Doctorp said about the VJ being the 6th member of the band. You could keep the visuals separate to the music and bascially make a visual accompanyment for the bands music but I think it would be so much better to actually be part of the band - let the music influence the visuals and the visuals influence the music.

This band sounds like it needs a Rebelle badly (and someone to operate it) - The Rebelle creates twisted sounds and twists video all in one unit. That way the Vj could be contribuiting some sound into the mix as well.

levlhed - how much have you played with the audio side of the rebbelle - woudl it stand up to being used as part of a band?

Dan.

LEVLHED
1st September 2003, 04:53 AM
definately...thats why I really wish I could take part..but alas..there's this matter of a thousand+ miles between us...


doctorp have a looksee http://community.audiovisualizers.com/LEVLHED

vjrei
1st September 2003, 06:34 AM
My comment came because I played with a band for 2 years a few years ago and I worked with some other people too. Of course based on that experience I made that scenario in my mind and the first reaction is gonna be having the VJ in the rehersals but that is not the way to go, of course the fun part is the sharing and the comunication, it is an artistic environment but at the end the VJ have to spend his/her time in its own studio listening to the songs to create a sort of history board of possible visualizations while the band is in the production process itself.

A band reharsal can take long hours and the VJ doesn't have to be there, that is my point. Un less you are doing it just for fun and stuff but I'm talking from the bussiness point of view and the bills at the end of the month.

If you are telling me to work with U2 or Depeche Mode I do not tell yopu to be with them in the rehersal, I would cook their breakfast too but that is not this situation.

In my case I would like to do it for exchange, to spend a month or so in Colorado doing their visuals and making the entire production so they can do it on their own in case they do not have a VJ allways around for a place to stay for free + some $. So I can go sking, spend time with the band and work with calm on their project and their set up, just for fun.

That way when they find a VJ or some one enchage of the visuals they have the complicated part resolved.

But that is my way of thinking, if they hire a VJ they have 2 options:
1. To get a pro and pay him good $$$ for his job to cover his spences (and that is expensive).
2. Train some one that can do the visuals when they need it.
3. Call some one to do the visuasl when there is a budged.

I tell you that because the band member have their jobs and the band still a hobbie while the VJing most of the time is not that, unless they find some one in their town interested in doing the visuals, that is my best bet. Any of us can take the time to help them with the footage and the set up to start with.

InsideUsAll
1st September 2003, 06:56 AM
Hey thanks Red for the shout!!
I gave doctorp birds email addy, when he emailed me about this, and hopefully the 2 will connect up..
I am in need of a band as well, and will have to check it out when I'm back from the UK..

Red, and gigs around brighton in the next months??

InsideUsAll
1st September 2003, 07:01 AM
opps,
posted that under Daves alais...
anyhow Doc, when I do get back to colorado, I will be focused on getting A/V sampling, plus some trax laid out on the creamware sound cards I have, and would like to actually be part of a experimental band like yours..

We'll have to talk..
:cool:

InsideUsAll
1st September 2003, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by InsideUsAll
opps,
posted that under Daves alais...
anyhow Doc, when I do get back to colorado, I will be focused on getting A/V sampling, plus some trax laid out on the creamware sound cards I have, and would like to actually be part of a experimental band like yours..

We'll have to talk..
:cool:

bullocks!
this is real a Pixy here under all the alaises...

vandeti
18th October 2003, 05:27 AM
hi,

I'm a VJ in an electro band
but we are located in Belgium so..

but if you need any help/hints on doing live video during a concert
just drop me a mail

just make sure that the audience also looks at the bandmembers and not all the show at that big screen

music > visuals in a live band environment !!

our bands' website is http://www.devotedsymbols.be

sleepytom
18th October 2003, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by Pixy pretending to be InsideUsAll
bullocks!

http://users.northnet.com.au/~limo/commercial/Duff1.jpg

solly
18th October 2003, 08:27 AM
LEVLHED.
I have to admit the way you say fucking Wisconsin all the time is the funniest thing I have read.

LEVLHED
18th October 2003, 08:36 AM
here's what I do for fun in (fucking) wisconsin
http://www.levlhed.com/LEVLfuk.swf (17mb)

spark
18th October 2003, 01:40 PM
tim - those are beautiful images on your website, graded really nicely.

go multimedia bands go... #thats entertainment, thats entertainment, la, la la la la....#

toby

vandeti
18th October 2003, 03:16 PM
thanx Spark
images .. that's what its all about!!

do you remember me? I made the first AVIT-site! we mailed a lot then

those days .. :rolleyes:

sleepytom
19th October 2003, 08:02 AM
Originally posted by LEVLHED
here's what I do for fun in (fucking) wisconsin
http://www.levlhed.com/LEVLfuk.swf (17mb) poor old lev - tv receptions crap in fucking wisconsin!!

WordVirus23
19th October 2003, 11:49 AM
I circuit bend stuff (toys mostly, some keyboard nunsense tho) if you're interested in my bends, drop me a message. Love Denver, wish I would have stayed when I was there for a month. Good luck w/ the VJ, there are a few of 'em floating around your area (CO Springs/Denver)
..james...


Originally posted by Doctorp
We are an established band in the Denver, Colorado area called the Sons of Armageddon that is looking for a VJ to become the 6th member of our group. We are heavily electronica based with live bass, drums and trumpet. We are using circuit bent instrumentation and other experimental instruments to boldly go where no band has gone before. We would like to add a like-minded individual to produce the visual interest we need.

Is anyone out there?:alien:

fx10243
22nd October 2003, 04:32 PM
:help:

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littlecatalyst
22nd October 2003, 10:09 PM
rei's 1/2 right and 3/4 wrong (and my math is nonliner so dont ask) when i used to play in godspeed i used t osit in on rehearsals for a little here and a little there but when we worked out teh visuals it woudl be mor elike meetings in my studio until we were ready to rehearse a whole show.... that is kinda liek what he's aying.. but that is not teh 21st centruy model that is teh old school way where the vj is the light guy (pretty much)... what they are talking about in colorado is a lot more interactive and you cant do it that old 19th century way... no way! i am working on a similar project now in montreal, live drummer live bassistkeys samples and me, vj is one full 1/4 of teh band. more cool than that, teh drums all have pads, are mid controlled and so teh drummer has his own track of visuals as well... plus teh keyboard player has midi vis, and there are times when i will be working on my instruments while others are controlling teh visuals (so i can play my freakazoid analog tweak boxes, e-tribe, guitars and keys). as we are smple friendly we've been working on sundbites that re synced visually and there is no way that the bad could do all of that whiel i sit on my duff and contemplate..... its all equally important. so liek you said re if its u2 or jessica simpson youre vjing for theres no need to go to many rehearsals just production meetings. but if it is something like pix (hey roomate!) and level and kriel and a load of us are talking about, then it is imperative that you are there....

there's always going to be those magic synced accidental improve moments, but to get it all planned out and even more importantly to compose properly you have got to be there...

one last thing; maybe it doesn't seem like an instrument to you, but dang! my ave5 is still one of my favorite instruments, every finger has its place-- like an oboe-- fits me like a good oiled baseball glove oboe, i can alternate intesities with more accuracy than non-touch-sensitive keyboards, and when im in a jam theres nothing different as far as the state i'm in as when im playing any other instrument (unless it's on ei suck at, like the oboe). sure i can't play a melody, but you gonna tell me now that a djembe isn't an instrumet either?

sorry for the awful spelling but the *&%"! internet costs ?1/7 minutes..... eeek hope AVIT is wifi'd

spark
23rd October 2003, 05:13 AM
tim, yes very much so. the site is archived at www.avit.info/uk/2002, and i'm currently finishing the main avit.info site... before i leave for brighton eek!

oh, and yes, avit will have wifi! and there's wifi on the beach down there too! (but grey skies and a little rain at the mo, so, uh, well, at least there's no glare on your screen =] )

toby