Projection mapping gig

[psyOptik]

Looking for interested parties to do design, preproduction and animation, plus maybe rigging and execution) of a projection mapping show. Budget possibly around €4000, and maybe some extra for travel expenses etc.

Customer wants two facades lit up for about 15 minutes show on loop, probably with Barco 37.000 ansi beamers.

Site: Norway

You need to:

Have a fat-ass resumé and work hard as fuck.
Have the technology and skills to, for instance, do a solid 3D model of the building (laser scanner or whatever), make sure it goes with the lens and projection distance and angle we are planning, and create the stuff so that the customer can run it from a Catalyst/Hippotizer/Maxedia/VDMaXer or similar media server, with some mapping skills.
Create interesting visuals, not just standard "bricks falling out of wall and After Effects Shatter at the end of the show".

Send your resumé and links to your showreel to mailadresse__AT__me.com

No time-wasters. No kaleidoscope fans. Please.

We need some trad mapping, as in standard mapping clichés for the plebs, but we´d love to put some ART into it, make something unique. SO -- send ideas, ideas, ideas.

[jimmyogenic]

well for 4000 euros i could get you the barco's for a day!

really this budget is impossible for it to work... especially as you ask for a big fat cv..

good luck finding a monkey to work for this ;)

[LEDLover]

I think he means that 4000 EUR is the budget for the graphics designer only + expenses...

[sleepytom]

yeah which is not much given that the hardware for this gig will cost more than that per day to hire.

quality custom graphics should cost at least 300 euro/ day of production time. 15mins x2 outputs = 30mins show. With the stated 4k budget spent at a rate of 300 euros a day you'd need to produce 2min 15 seconds of finished content per day. High quality animations take longer than that! Add in the site visits and the requirements to produce the animations to a very specific technical brief (which you will have to work out for yourself from the sound of it) and the budget rapidly becomes laughable.

As a general rule for people, never send "ideas" to secure a job like this! Send examples of your past work, let them decide on that. If you get the job then you can expect the client to have a whole list of "ideas ideas ideas" from other people who applied for the position but were rejected!

[LEDLover]

haha you know what they say about the peanuts and the monkeys hey

[psyOptik]

let me clarify:

€4000 for creating 2 x 15 minutes of original content. Not meaning original frame by frame hand animation done with feather quills by monks in Tibet, but maybe some original animation mixed with footage mixed with whatever VJ library you have lying around, as two high quality VJ mixes @ 15 minutes each.

But done with skill and taste.

I see that the laser scanning and 3D modeling bit might be a bit ambitious for the budget.

But I refuse to think that there aren´t talented people out here that could and would like to produce original, interesting content for €4000.

By ideas I mean things like: "Here, look, I´ve made a sensor-triggered processing thingy that I think could look great run through a media server and mapped to white sheets inside the windows on the building. I can create the setup for you, for your mediaserver of choice"

Ka-ching, you made yourself €1000.

Or you can just complain.

I totally agree that giving away ideas is stupid. But suggesting solutions and backing that up with a CV is something else.

->jimmyogenic
If you can get me two 30k+ ansi Barcos for €4000 a day, you can start a business subletting them. They´re about €6k each/day here.

[unjulation]

don't worry about moaning vj's they complain worse then dj's these days :D

[sleepytom]

Please re-read your first post. You were pretty clear that you wanted top quality professional used to working with high end industry standard equipment (which you yourself clearly don't have so much experience of - barco's brightest projector is 30k, not 37k)

Just programming the content onto one of the mediaservers that you mention is a reasonably involved task that requires training / experience to get right.

I would suggest that a better way to make this project work is to work backwards from the projection to the content. First get the display technology sorted, when you have a projectionist and a media server programmer on-board and they have been on a site visit and worked out the feasibility, then you can get them to produce a technical brief for the animators to work to. That way you are using the experienced professional to create a brief which should allow your animations to be made by pretty much anyone. Provided they can work to a brief it shouldn't matter if they are a top design agency or someone still at high school.

If you want to PM me some more details of the job (dates, location, vague indication of budget) then I will consider quoting for the projection install and media server setup, as well as producing a technical brief for your animators.

[psyOptik]

A more forgiving forum trawler would agree that my 37k typo re. our Barco XLM HD30s don´t necessarily mean I ain´t a "professional used to working with high end industry standard equipment" :D

But, yes, I have much to learn.

But Sleepy -- you have a good point after the sarcastic bit, and I see that I should have pointed this out to avoid any misunderstandings. We have a projectionist and a media server programmer on-board, and we have been scoping the site, and for anyone positive and talented that would like to participate in the project, there will be a technical brief for the animators, meaning, as you point out, the content could be made by virtually anyone who can read the brief.

Which was the whole point of posting the gig here, on the forums, where most people don´t have Hippos, Arkaoses, Cooluxes, Catalysts and Barco XLM HD30s lying about, but might have some much needed freshness of attitude and creativity.

My first post was unclear and spur of the moment, but it was an honest little post hoping to scare up some talent and give them some money.

I still have hopes that someone might see the glass half full here.

[sleepytom]

:)

we all have much to learn - otherwise what is the point of living?

anyway i hope you find some people to help with the animations, i would consider posting to a more content orientated forum too, maybe creative cow might be a good place to find reasonably priced content producers with some fresh ideas?

one free tip is that if the buildings are not too old then you should be able to get the blueprints / architectural drawings for them. This will help you to produce an accurate 3d model of the space.

[cat]

Building models, and content, is more like 40,000 euro minimum, for really high end stuff over 6 figures,for this kind of show, the kit, crew and rigging is going to cost you 50-100k euro's, if you can only 4k for content your approaching this the wrong way. Content is the important part, delivery is what is needed to deliver the message.

[MrJustin]

Any chance of seeing what the mapping surface looks like? it would be helpful for coming up with ideas and seeing what might/might not work so well.

[psyOptik]

for this kind of show, the kit, crew and rigging is going to cost you 50-100k euro's
Wrong, waaay wrong.

[sleepytom]

In this thread you tell us that the projector rental alone is going to be €12,000 / day, so €50k doesn't seem like a waaay wrong guestimate of the cost of the thing.

[psyOptik]

12k/day first day for the end customer, not for us. But if I could rent two for 4k/day I could hire those out to our customers and pocket the 8k difference without being bothered with maintenance and inventory costs. That was the point.

Constantly setting myself up for arrest, aren't I? :)

[SteveG]

Whilst you all arue about the cost of fish, projectors hire costs and who's got the biggest.....I too like MrJustin above am interested in whether you can provide a model, photos etc of the building involved, I'd be up for having a go at supplying 2 x 15min reels of original content for 4,000 euros....I'm sure a few others might be too;)