Teaser for a new A/V experience

[JeSs]

The eYe HeaR video sound system website is now online. Check out this new A/V experience on the demo page.
Feedback welcome :)
www.eyehear.fr.st (http://www.eyehear.fr.st)
Hope you enjoy it
Vj JeSs & Dj ElwOod

[silk]

i really liked it jess ...but... this is a double post :rolleyes:

[JeSs]

Sorry Silk :o
Didn't really mean to. But When I saw my post dissapear in the depth of vjcentral, with no reply whatsoever. Got a bit disapointed :sad: So when I saw the thread for "showing each ohters post" come back up I thought I'd breached the sacrosaint rule of double posting and send another :jump:. I suppose Its because I've been working on this since I'm on holiday ( a couple of weeks back) under the mad heat wave :trashcomp !!! And hoping for something to push me a bit further (got way more to do on this, loads of ideas...) But this morning I woke up and thought fuck that ! :mad: I love what I do and thats why I do it. Really looking forward to getting on stage to show this. That's where you get all the energy spent on something back and multiplide by ten (or more, depends of the crowd). And by the way thx for feedback

[silk]

dissapearing posts ...had that a couple of times to

[littlecatalyst]

nice work jess
but i gotta ask what makes this AV? if your answer is that you did the sound and the images, i dont think that is enough. i think that it may be VJing + making music, but not AV.

even thought you have some really nice motifs (like the diamond shape zingy lights that sync with the sound during the rastsa/michael jackson, lots and lots of really nice sync points but.... that can be done in final cut. how would you do this live?
peut etre c'est just seulment moi, but i think you need more interactivity with the vid's sound... surely your camera took down some sounds while you were shooting the driving scenes (Neat experimentaly sounds to loop w/your vis) or that kid, tap dancing, that would be a great percussive sound to add in to the mix.
ok, av is nascent still but i feel that it is a whole lot more than just well synced images.
otherwise, its fun, nice oldscool flava.. a bit too much computer scratching for my tastes.... but still, i thik you will want to push the concept further and have more intergartion between the video and the audio (and I for one would also rather we start calling it V/A as opposed to AV. AV sounds like the tech-geek cage where you'd have to go and get your teacher an overhead projector-- and i for one thing that the V ought to go first
NEway... nice work Jess, bon courage!

[wellREDman]

i disgree,

A/V means audiovisual, so anything where the performance uses both those elements.

damn i wasnt gonna get sucked into this,

i sense the yawning presence of a semantics minefield similar to the "what is a vj" thing

p.s. nice one jes

[JeSs]

Thx guys !
Can't remember who said that in one of the previous threads :
The A acts on the V and the V on the A
Or something similar. Which "for me" seems to be the right definition for A/V.
And in this sense it isn't a real A/V performance. Because dj ElwOod (dj I work with) doesn't act on the video. But we are working on that !
On the tech side everything is done from an Ibook running pixelshox and a couple of turntables.
I control pixelshox from a pcr-50 midi keyboard.
I've built a pach wich enables me to use the faders to control loops with a base tempo. And then I use a tap tempo system (in pixelshox) to replay the video at a certain speed to match the beat of the song. I also trigger audio/video samples from the midi buttons. Finally an audio effect units controlled from the same keyboard so I can have video effects and audio effects controlled from the same button.
And were hoping to also have a 2nd midi keyboard plugged in the mac so the dj can also effect the video. Just one controller to bybass the video (blackout) when he cuts the sound on the mixer. And in the near future maybe buy the entrancer...

[Mbazzy]

Nice one ... has a nice old school flavour to it .
Looking forwards for some material with more hands-on A/V interaction between the two of you in the future ....

If you're interested you can check out an A/V demo snippet of our work here : http://www.fisheye.be/www/movie7.htm

[holly]

Oops, I just posted my opinions on the "showing my stuff to you" thread....

[holly]

And Lil'Cat, from the description on the website I understood that there are a/v clips being triggered, not just video in sync with the beat. Maybe it was so smooth you thought the audio wasn't part of the video triggers? As I understand it, this is a very cool "a/v" (or "v/a" which means "veterans' association" like for retired sevicemen here in the States, so I think I'll stick with a/v not as a public definition but to differentiate from just VJ...). Besides, it's impossible to say what is the "live" effect when you are watching a demo online.

[littlecatalyst]

i think its funny that the one guy agreeing with me is the guy who did the clip in question.....((and i do want to stress that i like the piece, just getting caught up not so much in the semantics but in the formal aspects of av))

Originally posted by JeSs
Can't remember who said that in one of the previous threads :
The A acts on the V and the V on the A Or something similar. Which "for me" seems to be the right definition for A/V. And in this sense it isn't a real A/V performance. Because dj ElwOod (dj I work with) doesn't act on the video. But we are working on that !
thanks jess, yeah i said: "AV ==> the V has to influence the A as much as the A influences the V" and i think that is important as opposed to making tunes and making visuals (although RED i guess youre right, even if the two are not toally intertwined if you are up on a stage making them both happen at teh same time, i guess that must count--- except what about something like the Flaming Lips? Wayne Coyne has all the visuals triggered with something like vjo, there is definitley some triggered av happening, but he is not considering himself an av artist, he makes music and now makes visuals to go with it...) but teh work itself is not av

I also trigger audio/video samples from the midi buttons.
like in that ragga/don't stop till u get enough? those little diamondy things? those were cool, i think hitting the mark. i like that.

Finally an audio effect units controlled from the same keyboard so I can have video effects and audio effects controlled from the same button.
are you tweaking the sound in that clip? while playing the videos? if so like holly said, i can't tell that from a clip so i am totally wrong for saying that about the piece... but i still feel like there has to be some heavy crossover for the piece to be av as opposed to the performance being av... there's no reason that a lot of the sound can't come from the video, youre touching on that JeSs, like i said bon courage, keep it up!

[wellREDman]

OK i admit it I'm sucked in...:o


hows this for a pop at defining what makes something AV

a performance where both aspects are having some influence on the other is AV

so when the vjs an old fashioned silent vj like me, busking to a dj thats doing his own thing, thats not AV

and when someone does the (heard of it but never seen it ) DJ to film thing its not AV

but two guys one doing audio one doing video, jamming together is AV.

one person producing both at the same time is AV.

25 ppl on a stage all feeding audio and video signals back and for between themselves in a great big electronic circle jerk is AV.

[hamageddon]

i think that would make a great discussion in "The Future" forum
which was recently updated to cover those AV-ideas, even the definition of it ;)

http://www.vjforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=3671