View Full Version : Vectors is dead, long live Veto !
4th July 2003, 02:55 PM
just some news to tell about the latest gossip and events...
this thread would perhaps fit better in the VJ event thread,
but it might turn out to be a slightly hot topic
and since I moderate the VJ events thread,
I need a more neutral ground in this context.
Some of you may know already,
but about a month ago I broke my ties with Microchunk,
which was set out to be one of the premium
VJ labels and agencies in the UK.
Major ideology and managerial conflicts drove me
to resign from my position of head of A&R for Microchunk.
In the process we divided the pie of the jobs
which I could walk away with and to ones which was to stay within M.
and they ended up keeping Vectors.
Even though Vectors was my baby long before M supported it,
Initially I was OK with the decision because as a collective,
M could possibly pull more ressources than me as an individual...
But I later found out that they were going to shelve it,
not allow me to use it, but not use it themselves either,
ie just let it die of asphyxiation.
I could'nt let that happen.
but what could I do?
I turned around,
teamed up with a few people (TBC)
and produced another event: VETO
Every 6 weeks in Room 3 at Turmills,
the first one starting on Friday 8 August 2003,
will feature a full-on 5 hour VJ battle.
2 VJs will battle head-to-head (screen-to-screen) for one hour
and the winner stays on to take on the next challenger.
The winner of each individual battle is decided by the audience...
(let the public decide who the is the best VJ, not METRO ;) )
The VJ with the most wins at the end of the night
gets to perform all night, during the next VETO event,
in Turnmills' Room 2.
If you are interested in participating in the first VETO event,
Friday 8 August
please send me an email,
with some details of your work
if I have never seen it yet...
(ie I already know the work of Micheal Heap, Holly, Many-2, eMovie... if you want to participate just tell me)
We are welcoming 6 VJs per event.
All styles are welcome
VJs visiting London are also welcome ...
Turmills is one of the major clubs of London,
along with The End, Fabric, Ministry of Sound...
Turnmills is located at
63 Cleckenwell Road
London EC1 M 5PT
Next VETO events are scheduled on
Many thanks, Ne1
4th July 2003, 03:04 PM
Sorry to hear that vectors is finished before we even got a chance to get down to it.
Sorry also about the situation - sounds pretty raw to kill the night and name without giving you the chance to pick it up.
Glad to hear that you've got a new VJ-focussed night sorted though, and by the sound of it (turnmills!) it's going to push on to bigger and better things in any case.
Vectors is dead! Long live Veto!
4th July 2003, 03:40 PM
sorry to hear about vectors oli and the microchunk hassle - onwards and upwards anyway
the new venture sounds great (spoke to emma too about it last night)
count me in ill be there (ready to battle like vj gladiators :hit: ) - heheheheheheh
btw - does that mean its singular vj versus singular vj or can it be crew v crew?
very exciting ideas - well done
ps. do i have to send a dv tape :`oi!poke:
4th July 2003, 03:42 PM
bring it on!
_love the format.
openAirVIT (http://www.vjforums.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=32) clashes with aug 8th, but you know that sometime soon the spark banner will be flying high as the vjs prepare to joust =]
4th July 2003, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by mondo
ps. do i have to send a dv tape
No that's cool I saw your stuff at VJ Culture...
OK sorry i forgot to mention,
VJs part of the battle will have a mention in the Turnmills email out.
So Mond (and any other joining VJ on the 8th)
please send me a pict as well as a bio
by the 21st of July...
4th July 2003, 04:21 PM
Im in if u want me
4th July 2003, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by wellREDman
Im in if u want me
OK. same rules as above...
PS guys, STOP POKING ME
4th July 2003, 04:41 PM
no ! :D
:poke: :poke: :poke:
4th July 2003, 04:42 PM
We'll record some stuff from a live show sometime in the next couple of weeks and get it in the post to you. That way you can see our stuff as it actually is.
Don't like being poked, eh?
How about this?
4th July 2003, 05:34 PM
5th July 2003, 01:22 AM
Shame about your night.
I'll be in touch.
29th July 2003, 08:25 PM
sounds like fun , i could use a trip . are you set up to do NTSC ? besides it would be my big chance to get some more deep fried mushy peas and pizza with corn and sardeens in it . ?!?! :p
2nd September 2003, 06:55 AM
This post about Vectors has just been brought to my attention - so i've joined the forum to post a reply and help stop disinformation relating to microchunk and a night that i have put so much time, energy, love and effort into.
it is unfortunate that VJ Anyone mistook our silence on the matter for shelving the event rather than carefully considering how to move forward in the best possible way!
we have always and will continue to promote, stage and support live A/V events with the intent of providing needed exposure for talented VJ's in technically and creatively innovative surroundings....Always put on as a labour of love and despite unprofitability (many of you will have been down this road yourselves and know what i'm talking about)
no matter what name we give it - the spirit, teamwork and ethos behind it is what we hope will ultimately shine thru :)
find out for yourselves: join our maliing list or write for info on participating. email@example.com
ps - any questions welcome !
2nd September 2003, 08:09 AM
Thank you for your viewpoint on what happened.
I don't think Oli was overly unfair on you though. As for all intents and purposes the event has for the time being stopped.
I hope soon we will see a 'Vectors returns' thread soon then. :)
Welcome to VJ Forums and enjoy your stay. Oh if Todd is still with your team give him a kick as he hasn't posted here for a while.
Oh edit your location please it is obviosuly you are not in Antaricia. :);) Although stranger things have happened................... :D
2nd September 2003, 09:11 AM
I'm glad to see another Vectors is going to happen.
Please post your date on the forum,
we will be glad to attend!
in the meantime,
Veto is still happening,
next one is on
Friday 19 september, Turnmills.
free spaces are still available for the VETO VJ battle,
please PM me if interested...
6th September 2003, 03:24 AM
thanks for the welcome rovestar
but i purposely avoided getting personal so why are you?
if you want to talk about fairness - the post about vectors that opens this thread is the FIRST time i've heard about how microchunk has apprently dealt with the event!
it may have been Anyone's baby - but we have financially backed, resourced, and promoted it for a year, taking losses along the way.
He hasn't even bothered to speak to me directly, his partner in the event, and instead listened to and posted rumours.
You can't pass an event around like a football - especially when there are financial debts involved.
I will say no more as it seems too easy to get drawn into a political debate on this forum. It's obvious that Oli has made a home here for some time and has taken the liberty to speak for microchunk. What is the point of refuting him? the true story cannot be accessed online in snippets. but it does have a way of coming out and biting back when u least expect it.
i'll be back with event updates , and keep things on your forum pleasant by avoiding the temptation to moan about the lies told about my company.
let's let good work speak for itself.
6th September 2003, 06:10 AM
I didn't think I was being personal to be honest.
My opening line was thanking you for your side of the story.
and I said that Oli didn't say anything out of order about microchunk.
Maybe a post here about why the event was stoppping at the time would have been good that way no 'misinformation' could have been spread.
BUt I have said elsewhere that I do not want to see a slagging off of each other on these boards. VJF is not the place for that. Taking no-ones 'side' here.
6th September 2003, 10:29 AM
Veto won't be happening at Turnmills anymore,
My contact there just left for a non disclosed reason...
I guess it'll give me more time to spend on AVIT Brighton...
til next Veto,
here are some picts of last one:
9th September 2003, 05:11 AM
no more veto........damnabitt
9th September 2003, 07:26 AM
Pants. The format looked so wicked. I hope you get a good venue, and soon ;)
Maybe a Veto vj battle at AVit (sorry Amukidi :) )?
9th September 2003, 07:32 AM
OH! What happened to the pics? It looked like a lot of fun.
9th September 2003, 08:41 AM
holly, I just hit refresh all the picts got loaded...
11th September 2003, 02:43 AM
...nice pictures matie!
a very big sham(e) we're not gonna be doing it anymore, but onwards and upwards i say...
is always the case that when 1 thing drops outta your life it makes room for another one, and i'm highly anticipating that :)
wiggle on bruvvas and sistas
and PM for details of private experimenta party in Kent this weekend...
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