experiments created out of lazienes

[unjulation]

more sunday afternoon streaming consciancess to tickel your fancy.........

the journey within the gig
vs
the journey within life

or

the end result
vs
the process it's self

i've been feeling lazy reacently, and a little bit in need of insperation and thought i'd get my self some input to kick start the old gray matter so i puercased some loop cd's from audiovisulisers, (from which i have had some ideas about selling loop cd's etc, for us straight players rarther then your player/makers but thats for anouther thred)

so there i was suday morn a bit wooley around the edges but quite into the idea off geting down with my new visuals, after spending all nite going through them just to see what was on offer, but by now the latent hangover has kicked in and im feeling a bit worse for wareso i think

well why dont you just go with the order in the stack........?

so ran with the idea of going on a journey with the stack as it were, which consits of copying them and then converting them, if needed, so will be constantantly looking at them, makeing judgments about them in relation to each outher and outher stuf i already have

and through this journey i would be delt random seection of images which would push me to use images+visuals that i wouldn't normaly associate within a perticular situation, thus pushing my own skill, both within a thearetical situation and a real world seting

again all this would of corse be filterd through my own perception of what is good and what isn't

this then got me thinking about

the journey within the gig
vs
the journey within life

or

the end result
vs
the the process it's self

(in one way i serpose it go's down to how you veiw your own internal world and your relationship to the outside world)

I.E. what is important to you, is it the perticular journey that the indervidual go's on and the leasons that are lernt along the way
or is it
the end result that is important to an indervidual

which then led to the thought that are artists realy reflecting and pushing the human condition or are they just banging on about their perticular perception of the world around them

this dosen't nesciserialy apply to eyecandy vj's and i use that term in the brordest sense of the word and in relation to this i havent worked out my own stance because my show is pure eyecandy filterd through my own perception of what i'm laying down-again more latter

[complexvisuals]

but by now the latent hangover has kicked in

I think you are still drunk
;)
Cian

[PilotX]

Originally posted by unjulation

the journey within the gig
vs
the journey within life

or

the end result
vs
the process it's self



I'd be one for the process myself.. it's for me what I learn and the idea behind the set we do/that particular clip or part of the visuals.
I don't mean that entirely in a philosophic manner, just having the idea of filming in a particular manner or something like that is enough.
The end result is gratifying when it works. but it's the ideas I love.
not to say I don't enjoy the gigs.. playing live is more enjoyable than pretty much anything since playing in a band.

[QOUTE]
which then led to the thought that are artists realy reflecting and pushing the human condition or are they just banging on about their perticular perception of the world around them
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I'm not sure that anyone can really say that they are doing anything more than banging on about their own perception.. that is the only knowledge available truly to anyone.. everything else is secondary and to a lesser or greater degree open to cynicism/criticism.. I might reflect my own view of the nature of the human condition, but it is always only my view (or the fusion of mine and dans, perhaps, since we work together).
But then art is always in a societal, as well as individual context, so to ignore the external world in it's influence on the artist would be to do as much as saying it does not exist to that person.. this would imo be wrong.
I would probably end up saying that the artist bangs on about their particular percerption, but that their perception is a reflection of the human condition(s) they experience.

[WordVirus23]

I received 80 Gigs of loops/clips/demos from audiovisualizers, and believe me... its quite a task going through that much stuff... sometimes you see things you'd rather not see... I sorta scared myself with a clip of spiders (I'm arachnophobic) I'm assuming whatever the file's name is, means "spiders" but not in english... heh...
<suddenly has spiders crawling out of his screen>
eep!
<alt-F4>

..james...


Originally posted by unjulation
and thought i'd get my self some input to kick start the old gray matter so i puercased some loop cd's from audiovisulisers,

so ran with the idea of going on a journey with the stack as it were, which consits of copying them and then converting them, if needed, so will be constantantly looking at them, makeing judgments about them in relation to each outher and outher stuf i already have

and through this journey i would be delt random seection of images which would push me to use images+visuals that i wouldn't normaly associate within a perticular situation, thus pushing my own skill, both within a thearetical situation and a real world seting

again all this would of corse be filterd through my own perception of what is good and what isn't

[complexvisuals]

I sorta scared myself with a clip of spiders (I'm arachnophobic) I'm assuming whatever the file's name is, means "spiders" but not in english... heh...
<suddenly has spiders crawling out of his screen>


I got a dvd off dave last year. Exact same thing happened to me. Fucking loads of spider hatching out of sumthing. Frightened the shit out of me. Im afraid to go into that folder again, I cant remember the name of the file so Im steering clear of all the loops in the folder.

Cian (Peter Parker) Complex

[Lara]

Freaks who vj with spider loops . . . that is not good. Eugh, hatching and shit?
I've come over all :girly:

Quote PilotX:
<<I would probably end up saying that the artist bangs on about their particular percerption, but that their perception is a reflection of the human condition(s) they experience>>

You couldn't have put it better IMHO.

As for process vs outcome, hmm its got to be both together in the right balance for the individual. Think its down to experience as well- when you really know your field you are still experimenting, but you've got your responses more honed.

I think vjing is a creative process in itself- I'd argue against any fixed 'outcome' and I think that's what makes it so good. Instead of being a fixed outcome that's tangible it is a constant potential, and with that I think there's so much optimism.
You're always learning and improving and there's always a second chance.

Quote Unj:
<<we aint realy that important within the whole space, so from that we can actualy move on and do some thing good>>

[KillingFrenzy]

Yah,
I got offered a big toke by the DJ, got completely spacey, and scared the shit out of myself with this part of a zombie movie I had running. I wasn't even showing it to the room, I just had it going on the little LCD of my DV deck, but for some reason it scared the bejeebus out of me. Part of "City of the Dead" by Fulci. His movies are F^&%d up.
Compiling content is a great way to explore, and I consider it a wonderful learning process for myself, and to a lesser degree the audience.