Youtube hits me with a copyright violation for my own content

[Architects of Tomorrow]

This morning i received an email from youtube informing me that they have removed my content for copyright violation. The content I uploaded is my own content of video feedback and music that was custom created for the video. I even own the copyright to the video - I have the copyright form upstairs in a folder - it was the only item that i actually send in for copyright - has anyone else had to deal with this? - It looks like i need to jump through a bunch of hoops with youtube - send in forms, etc. I wonder who flagged this video for copyright violations - has me kind of worried. I had the video cut up into 5 parts - they only deleted part 3

Thanks
Sean

[SteveG]

Surely like anything else in law you should be innocent until proven guilty and they should have contacted you first to ask some questions on the material before they removed it? Crazy when you see all the TV and film footage on there along with all the music. Have you got a link to the other sections Sean?

[vanakaru]

I have noticed that many youtube links I have collected over time have media removed (no longer available). These are mostly interesting experimental works and should not have any copyright issues.
Maybe there is a pressure from copyright industry and youtube acts in panic.

[bilderbuchi]

seems youtube cowers in fear as soon as anyone draws a mighty weapon aka DMCA Takedown Notice....
what did they say to the "wtf, that's _my_ content" mail you presumably have already sent?

one more reason to go down the vimeo route instead of crappy youtube...

[Rovastar]

Surely like anything else in law you should be innocent until proven guilty and they should have contacted you first to ask some questions on the material before they removed it? Crazy when you see all the TV and film footage on there along with all the music. Have you got a link to the other sections Sean?

What has this got to do with the law Steve?

YouTube is a private site and they can really do what they want with others content legally.

If a private site like VJforums choose to delete someone posts you cannot cry to the police to say that it is illegal. It is the same for YouTube.

I agree it is odd and does 'seem unfair' but not illegal.

I don't understand why they don't give a reason for this. Maybe they would get toooo many complaints 'my clip does not contain xyz' but at least uploaders would know.

I imagine that they are now using automated software that looks for musical signatures and it has a false positive of some other copyright work. AFAIK there is nothing like this for video as it is too complex.

[SteveG]

I'm not suggesting that John, just the fact that they quote and use Copyright Law you'd think they'd have the decency to check a claim against a post out before removing it. But as you say they'd probably end up in too many arguments. People will just stop using it eventually.

[KillingFrenzy]

I'd just delete the old version and post the same thing under a one digit different name.

Chances are it got flagged for no good reason and no one is even paying attention.

In my experience with the "big guys" of user content, they have massive numbers of claims and deal with them in the way that someone dealing with massive numbers of claims would; Killing your video and hoping both the accuser and the accused don't bother to follow up. Chances are you won't put up a fight, and if someone "complained" it is likely they won't bother again. If you put up the same thing and the person who complains doesn't do anything about it, it is highly unlikely that someone is actually paying attention on the site to notice that you just reposted.
The flipside of this is that I had a very upsetting situation where on myspace some sick fucker created a profile for the guy that walked into a house party my friends were having and killed seven people with a shotgun, and then killed himself. Somebody made a profile for the dead killer and proceeded to post messages and try and be "friends" with everyone on the dead peoples friends lists. Many people complained and asked that this profile be removed because it was clearly not the person, and it was actually causing major distress to the friends of the victims. Myspace completely ignored the situation for weeks, sent people email that said that they were evaluating the account and lots of other nonsense instead of just deleting the account. Honestly, I don't know if the account ever got deleted, but the person quit (probably out of boredom) because everyone did a little grass roots myspace campaign urging each other to A)not allow the person as a friend B)Delete the person if they were a friend C)not respond in any manner to postings or requests.
As of the last time I looked at the account, Tom was still his buddy. Inaction on Myspace part was the default.

My point here is that these companies really don't give a shit, and probably spend little or no time looking at cases. I would highly suspect that they don't have the staff or time to bother. I imagine they attend only to "high profile" issues such as claims of child porn or pre-releases of movies.

[USE]

one more reason to go down the vimeo route instead of crappy youtube...

damn straight. my bullshit multinational-corporate employers just blocked vimeo from employees internet access- so it must be doing well then! ;)

[Donnie Darko]

maybe this can help..

http://craphound.com/images/youtomb.jpg

" MIT's FreeCulture club has started "YouTomb" -- a graveyard for youtubes taken off the Internet due to copyright complaints.


YouTomb is a research project by MIT Free Culture that tracks videos taken down from YouTube for alleged copyright violation.

More specifically, YouTomb continually monitors the most popular videos on YouTube for copyright-related takedowns. Any information available in the metadata is retained, including who issued the complaint and how long the video was up before takedown. The goal of the project is to identify how YouTube recognizes potential copyright violations as well as to aggregate mistakes made by the algorithm. "

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/07/18/youtomb-where-copyri.html

[VJFranzK]

Yes, ironic that they choose you, who actually made your content! :rolleyes:

Once I made a song on mp3.com with "samples" of myself talking like a horror movie... Somebody must have thought it was real, they took it down. ;)

I uploaded it again with a different title, nobody said anything...?

[Architects of Tomorrow]

Surely like anything else in law you should be innocent until proven guilty and they should have contacted you first to ask some questions on the material before they removed it? Crazy when you see all the TV and film footage on there along with all the music. Have you got a link to the other sections Sean?

Well i figured out the reason why the clip was removed - I checked out the part of the video that was removed and it seems that it had radio samples in the song that were not cleared for copyright. I wonder if a human or a bot detected this.

Oh well

[Rovastar]

There you go it wasn't your own content. :)

It is a bot doing this.

[monsho]

yep, had the same, had permission to show the content (which was tv footage of an event we did) as promtional material from us, had to contact YouTube, bit of pissing about but got it back up there eventually...

[paranoidkarma]

www.vimeo.com :)

[Scratchpole]

Haha the youtube bot finally caught up with me after three years of the the vid being online- Totally cheeky copyright infringing Leila Arab bootleg/mashup of Aaliyah taken down, but I put another lazy old mix up recently, VitalDizzee.
Just for fun! See how long it lasts.
All talent from and credit to the producers especially Pleix.
YouTube - VitalDizzee