thunderous transvormator

[restate]

on http://rebelle.restate.org _>>


>Are those standard 1/4" jacks?

correkt.



>One routes a signal through different sections like the old modular analog
>synths?

correkt.



> ....drooooool....
> ...slurp...

mind your manners, mammal.



>:sick to death of fighting with my computers:

ecrasez l'infame.



>:giving serious consideration to selling my bloated hardware crap to finance
>y(our) revolution:

how courtoise you are.

very seksy.

(giggle)



decontstrukting the apparent necetstsity ov a selvorganising sistem is only featsibelle outside its realm.

(you know that, do you)



>:need more info:

restate/rebelle is one highly eksperimental entity.

restate/rebelle ekstrakts the inherent potentsial ov wellformed input data and integrates the feedback in a trantsformatsional progress.

onedimentsional enkoded signals are input and polyconteksturally rekoded.

(she is a feral filter)


both sonik.

saccadik.


synestetik.




>:sell sell sell:

first restate/rebelle PAL units will be availabelle in may 2002.

restate/rebelle will be produced in a limited editsion.

you may preorder now.

preorder@restate.org

(first in. first out.)




payment processing will be handled via http://www.kagi.com or http://www.paypal.com

buy buy.









?do you want to know more

laughinglion@restate.org






http://rebelle.restate.org - she is is realle realle.

[DocSavage]

Every time I go to that web site or am exposed to something from the Rebelle guys, it feels like I've fallen into the twilight zone.

Ryan

[MoRpH]

Gee thanks for the haXX0r spam..... this is the 3rd time I have read this crap (eyecandy, vj-talk and here)... oh and the lame psuedo intellectual speak in teh post doesn't impress anyone ..

"decontstrukting the apparent necetstsity ov a selvorganising sistem is only featsibelle outside its realm."----- wank wank...

looks like your little machine just screws with the video signal in realtime... not really that exciting I must say. Maybe you should have a look @ the fairlight CVI or read my developer thread about a hardware FX box that would actually be useful...

[MoRpH]

BTW I also don't expect to get any response to this as they prolly won't bother posting again until there product is out.

[elbows]

Not as bad as nn though - Ive fallen out with "her" a few times on the LEV list due to the uninteligible crappola. Funnily when I mailed her direct, she never replied, suggesting it iz juzt a strange market!ng / advert!s!ing technique!

Anyway Im interested in HARD SPEC for this product, wont buy unless proper spec is revelead minus the unreadable bollox. Some screenshots of sample output would be nice too.

The revolution will never happen if people cant understand whats being said ;)

[MoRpH]

Originally posted by elbows
The revolution will never happen if people cant understand whats being said ;)

Too true... although if its all just modular analogue stuff I can't see how it can do THAT much... but I would loved to be proved wrong....

MoRpH "the healthy skeptic"

[LEVLHED]

I've read and re-read the stuff on the site to try and grasp the fundamentals. It takes some time, but one CAN read between the lines. (I'm talking about the stuff thats on the "real" part of the site that seems broken.)
It is a realtime efx box, seems mostly v-sync and h-sync and delay kind of stuff.. It has a 20 second mono audio sampler with hi/lo pass filters. There is also A/V white and pink noise generators. There might be a sine wave generator. Although there must be more efx because there are a bunch of knobs and switches on it.
Its designed to be a all-in-one kind of A/V freak-out box with future expansion capabilities.
Its completely hardware based, so very stable & real-time.
The couple of example .movs on the site:
http://rebelle.restate.org/dd5701.html
http://rebelle.restate.org/dd7307.html
These don't seem to be adequate though.
Hope they don't mind the "leech"........

I have to agree w/ elbows. I'm not sure I would buy one w/ out some more real clear info. But then part of me wants one no matter what because I know this is an entirely unique machine, that is going to be in very limited production. I dare say an instant collectors-item that just might be wicked as hell.
But the price tag, plus the fact that its PAL, so I'd be buying at least one converter too.....
Uggghh......

and truth be known, the quotes she(?) used are actually from an email I sent the other day....trying to get the answers that I (and I know you all) want.
I am serious about being sick to death of fighting with my computers and considering selling my shit, too.

[eXhale]

Congrats for taking the time to read between the lines :p

Well I find the effects on the movs interesting, I like to fuck up with my videos so that would be useful. And since it's hardware, it's easy to use.

I'll wait for someone else to buy it though and, hopefully, write a review on VJcentral :) I really don't feel like giving away all this money without knowing if it really does what it promises. Having an expensive & useless 'collector' laying around and taking space is not that 'hip'.

[elbows]

Just to clarify the "she" that I was talking about was someone else - nn, author of nato - who talkz in a far more confuzing manner.

[LEVLHED]

I doubt it would be "useless".
And for effects, there must also be crazy feedback abilities by routing the signal through the different parts.

Maybe I will see if they will give me one to test out for us and write a healthy, extensive review for vjc?

yeah right :rolleyes:

I knew who you meant, elbows.
I think this person is a female too.
although one of her replies to me says something like:
"I am not a man, I am not a woman, I am pure dynamite"

Personally, I love that whole web-freak-persona thing.

[elbows]

I like people to build their own identeties / be freeaks too, its only when it gets in the way of genuine understanding that it annoys me. Technical matters can be complex enough to grasp at the best of times :D

[DocSavage]

There can be a middle ground between being wierd and mysterious and still getting your product across. Then again, we're all talking about the product anyways, right?

Ryan

[LEVLHED]

32 knobs, 30 1/4" jacks, and 6 switches.....how could it NOT be fun?

and my PAL issue has gone away





....getting closer....

[hamageddon]

considered the costs, lev?

[MoRpH]

Still not going to be much fun if it just lets you freak the signal in an analog kind of way, eg. colour tweeking, freak the sync (whihc is going to really shit your projector, cause they normally go blue when they loose sync.... hahaha).

[LEVLHED]

considered the costs?
yeah, and I'm WORTH IT :)

and its got to be more fun than clicking a mouse, morph.
ever play with something that has a bunch of nice realtime knobs?

and you can't forget this isn't just about video.
I'm attracted to its audio capabilities too.
I've actually been messing w/ music production much longer than video. Really interested in an efficient way to bring the two together so I can take over the whole planet.

[MoRpH]

Originally posted by LEVLHED
and its got to be more fun than clicking a mouse, morph.
ever play with something that has a bunch of nice realtime knobs?

Umm yeah... sliders on the CVI, have used a phatboy b4 and a number of other midi controller and I love realtime physical controllers, why do you think I'm working on the hardware FX box thread, cause I like them the best but I don't think this unit is going to be the bomb...

[Meierhans]

It only costs 600 US $, there are knob and faders and some inputs build in.
Also outputs and buttons are included - all realtime!
You will see what it can do, all these fantactic things - when you buy it.

You can do really flashy things with it. Its really cool, innovative and against the kaptalistic system ! :o

JUST BUY IT!

ehehee,

Sorry,
but why are we discussing something we don`t know???

:confused:

[MoRpH]

Hahahaha because they spammed our board with their drivel, ppl are pretty annoyed with it on eyecandy too, I don't really think these guys will go well with this unit if they keep there current attitude

[LEVLHED]

I can understand the negative attitude, given their current method of information dissemination. I think the ploy is brilliant. Maybe its a bit "spammy", I don't mind. Honestly, I'd rather read that than some of the other topics currently being discussed.

You think its going to be junk? Maybe you're right.
But thats cool, I'd actually prefer it if I were the only one who had one.
Assuming I can even get one.....

[MoRpH]

I didn't say it was going to be junk, I just think they need to get there head out of there arse and fix their attitude...

As for being the only one to own one I think I have a solar powered torch to sell you :p

[LEVLHED]

Just gimme one of your CVI's

you CVI-hoarder :)

[MoRpH]

Hahaha good try......

CVI producer is still off @ the mod shop :(

[murph]

Originally posted by LEVLHED
32 knobs, 30 1/4" jacks, and 6 switches.....how could it NOT be fun?

Haha, further proof that it's all about the blinky lights. =] I think all VJs are fascinated by blinky lights, knobs, faders, and gratuitous displays. God knows I am. =]

Matt

[MoRpH]

VJs Anonymous...

"Hi, my name is MoRpH and i'm addicted to sliders, buttons and flashing lights........"

"its been 48 hours since my last gig and I haven't touched a t-bar since"

:p

[LEVLHED]

More like:
Hi, my name is levlhed, and I'm a videaholic.
"hi levlhed"
I can't stop twisting knobs.
I started when I was young, you know, for fun.
I was a social twiddler at first. Just like my dad.
But then it got to be where I'd carry my gizmo's with me where ever I went so I could twist whenever I felt like it.
Then, the last straw....I figured out a way to get paid to play with my gadgets! I thought I had it made! Who knew I could get a job just zoning out to a big movie screen while "knobbing"? Of course all I did with the money was buy more knobs, even things with lights of their own!
Now look at me. I am here now because I know I have a problem and need help.


With that I'll pass.

"thank you, levlhed"

[restate]

>we need a little time to prepare the
>
>
>?
>
>
>restabellion ?

no need to wait.

(the restabellion is now)






19 april 2002.

(today)

7pm CET.

gallery BURYZONE.

http://www.buryzone.sk

?ajakova 11
811 02
bratislava
slovakia
europa



the polymorph pervert premiere ov restate/rebelle.

(offline)

(onland)

russian artrits eva maslova is the first one to pervorm live on restate/rebelle.












http://rebelle.restate.org

http://www.restate.org

>restate rests on the cutting edge of a new creative outlet,
>born of the ability to share information and creative
>expression with others around the world, with a speed and
>ease never before imaginable. the information age has just
>begun, relatively speaking, and the artists and creatives
>will, without question, seek to express and create using all
>available mediums, and in that exists the possibility for
>the fringe to manipulate the whole, usually to the (at very
>least) annoyment of the majority. nothing here has changed
>over what has always been, except the medium, and ease of
>delivery. the minority has always manifested the change of
>the majority, usually against the status quo of the
>majority. this is the flow of artistry in society, and how
>artistry has created social change.
>
>having said all that, i
>can see how her expression can be construed as
>counter-productive to what is and i see the possibility of
>continued expression working against the cohesiveness.


compare my results to any other artist and see why people are raving.

(i am the elegant enlighter)






bisou to you.

[MoRpH]

*yawn*

"compare my results to any other artist and see why people are raving" Pffffft, get over yourself.....

[eXhale]

"this is the flow of artistry in society, and how artistry has created social change."

"(i am the elegant enlighter)"

oh yeah, the 'enlightened elite' of so-called 'artists' is going to make social changes and help 'the mass'. right........ people like you are 100% part of the status quo (this basic problem is the idea of leaders vs. the mass), you're just too full of yourself to realize and admit it. you're not that different, you know.

[robotfunk]

NN wannabees seem to think that what worked for NATO works for them . Problem is, the value of NATO is evident, while the value of this depends on what it actually does, as to which people can only make an educated guess.

What i see is some kind of simple modular analog synth and a video part. How the audio and video parts relate is unknown and unspecified. Whether it has frame buffer and other necessary parts to do a video synth type project is unclear. The demo movies suggest that the audio part is used to destroy the sync signal of the video, making 'interesting' out of sync video.

I would actually be very interested in an audio/video synth if the two parts would have any meaningful relation. As it is i can't escape the feeling this is an overhyped product with a lot of mist surrounding it, trying to get ppl buy it based on assumptions /feelings instead of knowledge. The 'if you dont like it or if its broken, tough luck' clause at the end of the website plus the lack of meaningful replies to serious questions only confirms this feeling. Again i'd love to be proven wrong, but in english please or some other language I understand.

[MoRpH]

Originally posted by robotfunk
The demo movies suggest that the audio part is used to destroy the sync signal of the video, making 'interesting' out of sync video.

Yeah thats what I thought it did.... this isn't interesting its shit, If I wanted video with screwed sync I would play-rewind a tape into the sync input on a V5 or a panasonic.

They have just spammed the same crap onto the eyecandy list BTW.

Also I have to admit for vid synth stuff a controller box for winamp would be good, personjally I have stuff that just generates video from audio input *yawn* but thats just me :)

[LEVLHED]

Originally posted by MoRpH
...used a phatboy b4... but I don't think this unit is... the bomb...

I don't find the tiny, closely spaced knobs on the phatboy very phun.

[MoRpH]

Yeah I agree the phatbot could definately do with being a bit more spread out.... but with what we know so far of this units capabilities it hardly close to what you could do with good software and a midi controller, let alone a proper hardware FX (like in the thread I started).

Hmmmm why do ppl feel the need to cobble together bits of my statements and try to take me out of context... sheeesh

[sleepytom]

Originally posted by MoRpH


ppl definately need to cobble together bits of my statements and try to do me with a phatbot

out of context... hardly

;p

[MoRpH]

Hahahaha.... nice one tom.
http://www.id.iit.edu/~tkelly/images/r_handicapped_accesible.jpg

[KillingFrenzy]

It is inspiring me to do a show with just; a vhs-deck, 10 video rewinders that cause different degrees of interference, and a refrigerator magnet.

[hamageddon]

hm, a tv set above a rotating speaker cabinet (aka leslie) can be fun too ;)

[LEVLHED]

keep it up...


. . .:"}}FF{}":. . .
First rebelle in USA.

Just tried to digitize a mix* to UL for the curious to DL.

Having troubles getting it tamed down w/ a codec that is suitable. (blasted fucking computer)
Might have to do another mix** to a different format using different hardware...

[LEVLHED]

compound PC troubles are limiting my ability to provide easy examples.
BUT, I do have something UL for the desperately curious....
...
http://www.levlhed.com/LEVLrebelle1.avi
260MB (your 56k is obsolete)
352x240 Indeo 10 minutes.

I'm running a VCD of "The Terrible Truth" from the internet archive thru the rebelle. I'm running into an MX1, and I do a little luma-key with some kalideoscope stuff (which didn't work too well, but you see whats possible.) The original clip is black-and-white-ish.
I have the audio going into a mixer, then the rebelle looped in through an aux loop, run through my Electrix MoFX to add some delay/autopan (for depth).
It takes me a bit to get going, and I might have concentrated a bit too much on the audio (my first time doing that). At the very beginning, I'm having to do a bit of "tuning" to get the rebelle going right. That click in the audio is in the VCD.

but it should start to give you an idea of what its about.
And again, I still barely know what I'm doing.

This thing is so fun!

[MoRpH]

Originally posted by LEVLHED
my Electrix MoFX to add some delay/autopan (for depth)

This thing is so fun!

MoFX.... is that an audio FX box??? cause if its video I ain't ever heard of it....

I bet its not as fun as a fairlight ;) :D

[DogBoy]

that's some pretty fucked up shit right there.

BUT....

I reckon it's a bit messy.

One man's meat is another man's poison, as they say.

[bigloose]

I had some problem to read your .avi movie on my mac. I've only been able to convert the 3 first minutes to a readeable format.

From what I've seen, it look like every video whould look the same after going throug the box.... (maybe I'm wrong)
???...

[LEVLHED]

I've figured out that my Tenlab video converter doesn't like the sync output by the rebelle. The rebelle is PAL only and I was trying to convert the output to NTSC to bring into my MX1. Therefore that video example I posted isn't really an accurate indication of what it does. The Tenlab kept losing the signal. Tonight I bypassed it and sent the rebelle straight to my projecter with (even) more satisfying results. The output isn't so flashy/strobey and there is much more control over the H/V syncs.
Some PC troubles are preventing me from creating a better sample for you guys right now. I hope to have this straightened out soon! I should be able to make an mpeg1 which (correct me if I'm wrong) you mac dudes can cope with better.

I've also been given a beta of the manual, so now I know what she's really capable of! I'll see if its OK to post the pdf here for the curious to browse.
Haven't had a chance to try it out yet, but there is some degree of automatic switching ability (both in the audio and the video sections) based on the audio input. Apparently it works very well with bass frequencies......

[LEVLHED]

bah, I don't see why I shouldn't post it...

[MoRpH]

Oh great and its all written in idiot speak....

"/ image invormatsion (brightness)
/ sync invormatsion (spetsifies locatsional data)
/ color referents (indicates inside the sync which phase refers to which color)"

hmmmm sync freaking and colour tweeks...... ok so you can freak sync by running video signal through almost anything... especially audio things like guitar pedals, etc (and b4 anyone asks no they don't do to the video what they do to audio, delay, etc...) and you can tweek contrast and brightness with most mixers...... PLEASE tell me again why this things is a. special b. so expensive only special thing I see about it is that those things can be connected in some way to the audio.....

Sorry not trying to be negative but I think this units true nature is coming to light....

[Linus]

hi

as i see the price i was realy sad because i thouth it is realy expensive but then i noticed that it isn?t so much expensive because i remembered the old times when Analog_synths where new and what they had cost :)
so i think it is a good thing also to have a piece of the analog and digital side audio and maybe sonn also in my video-set to learn using it intuitivly and quick.
But whats going on with that Website??
always i click on the picture of the box all frames of the website pops and show me some pure code
:confused:
maybe i need some plugin to view the whole site?

regards

Linus

[bigloose]

No, Ure not missing any plugin....
It's like that...so U have 2 search

[MoRpH]

No linus the site thing has been covered b4... its the way it was designed, to be confusing and annoying.

As for how much analogue stuff cost when it come out, that doesn't mater cause its cheap as chips now and so this sort of price is stupid, especially for its video capabilities. To price the unit as if it was being produced in the early 80's is rediculous with current tech.

As for being intuitive.... there are other video FX boxes just as intuitive and have a much broader range of useful functions and FX.... oh and hopefully if that FX box of mine ever gets built really you will have the best of dig/analog hybrid FX and more in a VERY intuitive interface.

Oh yeah and BTW I figured out I can emulate this unit running unsyched signals into a CVI and trying to mix them..... ugly as fuck but its pretty damn close.

[LEVLHED]

Please, show me another analog audio/video FX box, Morph. (and don't bother saying a CVI since these are no longer in production)

and the keyword for your brainchild is indeed "if"...I'd love to see it happen, but I just can't see it happening this year.
Any idea how much yours might cost?


Like I said before, this isn't for everyone.
I think its safe to assume you count yourself among the "isnts".

[MoRpH]

Originally posted by LEVLHED
Please, show me another analog audio/video FX box, Morph. (and don't bother saying a CVI since these are no longer in production)

and the keyword for your brainchild is indeed "if"...I'd love to see it happen, but I just can't see it happening this year.
Any idea how much yours might cost?


Like I said before, this isn't for everyone.
I think its safe to assume you count yourself among the "isnts".


LEV thats just the problem mate, all the good stuff is now out of production making it damn hard to get, but it is out there.... I'm sure there must have been some other FX boxes created in the 70's/80's that are still around besides the CVI, I would love to hear about them. As for other specific ones check http://www.audiovisualizers.com/toolshak/vsynths.htm

Does anybody know of any video FX boxes with real time controls out there currently in production that aren't part of a mixer??? the only one I can think of is dave's FX kit unit, but there must be more

Just because this unit is currently in production (god knows why) doesn't mean its any good... sorry mate but its not an FX box its a gizmo that screws with the signal, simple...... and you can do that with lots of things much cheeper..... and the simple fact is no body @ a party wants to watch an image that looks like you have a dodgey connector in your rig.

As for being A/V I will mention the CVI specifically as it has an audio input and many many things on it can be triggered or modified with audio input :)

ANyways......

As for my FX unit.... no ideas on time frame or price yet but talking to per-i about getting it happening...... fingers crossed :)

BTW I count myself as one that likes a video signal to be coherant and not a bunch of out of sync rubbish supposedly justified psuedo philosophical statements about reality and the establishment

[Linus]

yeahh yes yahh

that is coool;)

@ the third or fourth click i checked it and noticed that the style the site is made is like maybe the product is?
cofusing @ the first look but much nicer when you come more into that :D


but youre right when sayin that this fx can mad by other ways (software) but do you think it woul in these with knobs and potis?

?Linus

[MoRpH]

*MoRpH rolls his eyes a little looking @ linus' title*

No linus I'm not saying they can be made by software (gawd why would anyone wanna make a sotware that did THAT to a video signal), i'm saying they can be made by running video signal through other hardware things with knobs a stuff, specifically some audio FX/hardware can do freaky shit to video signals..... nothing that looks good, but neither does what this does :D

[LEVLHED]

This thing really is a whole lot of fun to play. The knobs and jacks provide endless variation.

Maybe you should hold off on your opinions until you see a more accurate example of what it does?
Just a thought.

But then, if it aint a CVI it aint shit, right morph?

sheeese! You sure are a piece of work....

[MoRpH]

Nah mate you have the wrong end of the stick...... there must be plenty of other cool FX boxes out there aswell as the CVI.

Just after seeing that clip (even if it did have errors) and reading what the video sektion (twits) comprises of then I can reasonably draw a conclusion as to what sort of output it gives....... yes it may have endless combos, but if each of those building blocks is rubbish then the output will be rubbish. As I said already no one wants to watch video @ a party that looks like you have a dodgey connector in your rig.

Oh and try to keep the comentary to the thread and the hardware, you can leave the personal comments @ the door mate.

[hamageddon]

Originally posted by MoRpH
Oh and try to keep the comentary to the thread and the hardware, you can leave the personal comments @ the door mate.

hear, hear! u converted to the purity of content church, morph?
when xactly? ;)

[MoRpH]

Hahaha I don't mind the odd personal injoke and mucking about with some pics and stuff.... but I think LEV's snipe was just a little low and uncalled for

[LEVLHED]

Of course you're going to think my comment was low and uncalled for, seeing as how it was directed at you. But OK, I apologize. That was unlike me anyway. Just don't make me dig up examples of how your reply might be considered hypocritical...

anyway, I got something else uploaded. Just a little clip we call "booty dang" that has the live audio from a club. In this example, I don't have any cables hooked up to the jacks, jus' running her stock.

http://www.levlhed.com/LEVLrebelle7.mpg
mpg1, about 8MB
Now you can see some of the color inversion effects.

[eXhale]

Nice lev :) Was too lazy to download the 250Mb file heh. It really fucks up with the video, eh? I guess that for some kind of music this kind of distortion would be really perfect. Philip Virus style :p I don't know about house music though...

[MoRpH]

Originally posted by LEVLHED
Of course you're going to think my comment was low and uncalled for, seeing as how it was directed at you. But OK, I apologize. That was unlike me anyway. Just don't make me dig up examples of how your reply might be considered hypocritical...


Thankyou apology accepted, and don't bother digging I'm sure they're there but lets just focus on the matter @ hand.

DO you have any responses to my previous posts about what I said about the unit???

Hmmm after watching that clip I would like know what the colours were like on the the original clip, that colour spectrum effect was nice (I have the same thing on my CVI producer). Looking @ the colourizing section of the manual it maybe the most interesting part of the unit main cause I guess colourizing effects are VERY easy to do in hardware.

Still don't personally dig the sync freakouts, I agree with X it maybe approriate @ a hardcore gig or something but I don't think its gonna work @ house/breaks/trance nights....... I think if I gave video like that to a promoter, they would shoot me or atleast demand that I replace the cable and fix it :p

BTW come to think of it I presume you haven't used this out yet, but when you do, ask the promoter what they think of the video it outputs without telling them you doing the sync screwing on purpose.

PS to the ppl currently engaging in various forms of one upmanship via VJC/VJF..... can you please cut it out, as I stated in another thread, I think it goes against the nice equality we have built here.... thanks :)

[LEVLHED]

The original colors are what you see in the first few seconds. The effect isn't all that easy to get, one has to adjust two knobs and find the "sweet spot".
I hope to get it out both friday and saturday night this week down in Chicago. We'll see how its received....

I can understand your views of the thing. Mine is a bit different since its I own it...and its pretty much the only one in the world. Yes, the effects it produces aren't "nice". As for the generalizations about what "everyone" wants to see at a party...thats a bold assumption. You've never been to a party here.
I fully expect some people to not "get it". Frankly, I don't care. It is what it is, it does what it does. This is my style for now. If it means I'm only hired for "hardcore" events, so be it. I think the promoters I've dealt with could appreciate it though.

[MoRpH]

Hmmmm valid points..... still I "know" it wouldn't go down well with the promoters I work with or the crowds... good luck with selling it to yours :)

As for owning it, yeah it makes you biased becasue you don't really want to acknowledge that it was a bit of a waste of money and as I said the same thing can be achived with other junk. As for the only one, yeah maybe in the states..... not getting down on you mate but I think those points are pretty obvious..... Youa re obviously DESPERATE for a realtime FX box and I would totally help you if I could, but I guess all I can say is keep your eyes open and hunt, and maybe if you have nothing by sometime next year maybe per-i will ahve my unit out, and you can trash this thing :)

[LEVLHED]

Originally posted by MoRpH
....acknowledge that it was a bit of a waste of money...other junk.......obviously DESPERATE...

again, with the assumptions...
I don't feel this was a waste of money at all!
And why must you insist on calling this junk?
You made this decision weeks ago...

I think we all know your opinion, you'll never convince me to change mine. spare us all.

[MoRpH]

Hahaha fine LEV I'll leave it alone mate and BTW my opinion of this box is contantly changing I appreciate you clips mate. Once again with the taking bits out of context and reading what you want into it... is this a god damn american trait no-one told me... for fuck sake LEV.

I was saying it was a bit of a waste mate cause you can get similar FX from running video through old (read cheap) audio FX units)..... I didn't say the rebelle was junk I said the other old sudio stuff was junk... and I said you were obviously desperate for a good FX box, which comes from MANY previous conversations I have had with you about FX boxes b4 the rebelle even came along mate..... quit fucking taking me out of context, shit.

OH and BTW I can agree to disagree but I can't abide having my words cobbled together to mean something different so CUT IT OUT!!!

[MoRpH]

BTW I apologies to anyone that might be offended by the swearing above but this has really got to stop

[LEVLHED]

I wasn't deliberately trying to take your words out of context, that is what I thought you were really saying!
I know I did that before, but that was obviously as a joke.
But fair enough. You clarified what you meant. I understand.
I don't mind the colorful language.
I am not interested in experimenting with audio stomp boxes/etc. I would like to see some examples, though.

I will try to make some more examples soon.

And I would like to hear others opinions (good or bad). I'm sure restate would too.

[MoRpH]

Originally posted by LEVLHED
I wasn't deliberately trying to take your words out of context, that is what I thought you were really saying!
I know I did that before, but that was obviously as a joke.
But fair enough. You clarified what you meant. I understand.
I don't mind the colorful language.
I am not interested in experimenting with audio stomp boxes/etc. I would like to see some examples, though.

I will try to make some more examples soon.


Excellent I look forward to seeing them. And i'm glad you finally understood what I was saying..... as fo the audio FX units I would love to help you out but I sold mine off years ago :(