VAM aka VJ MAG

[paranoidkarma]

Without colaborators the magazine will never be out, please help, it won't hurt...

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[sleepytom]

can you give some more details about this concept - is the mag a print magazine? where is it distributed? what kind of content do you want people to write? have you got any money to pay contributers?

[skulpture]

I would be interested... I am writing a lot of educational (University) papers on AV stuff anyway so I may be able to contribute something.

[paranoidkarma]

can you give some more details about this concept - is the mag a print magazine? where is it distributed? what kind of content do you want people to write? have you got any money to pay contributers?
The magazine will be out in PDF for download, in future i hope we can get a printed version but that will be possible if we sell some ads hehe ^^
For now it will be hosted by vjkungfu.tv, i want to have partnership with vjcentral and createdigitalmotion for open content, we share - you share :)
Content: Opinion Articles about everything related about vjing (you are creating a new software for vjs, come and write about it, you do mapping in food? show us photos and share the experience), Software/Hardware Reviews (you have opinion about some software or hardware please let us know), Tutorials (you want to share how to create liquid content? how to do audio reactive performances? Tell us please), Gig Reports (you will be in Boom Festival? please tell us how was the experience and show us pictures from the video performances at the festival), VJ List (you are interested in create a VJ list with VJs from all around the world and their contacts, please email the list), Interviews (you know some crazy VJs? interview them and let us known them better and their techniques).
And of course we want more ideas :)
Last question, we don't have money, i'm doing this for free and because i think is good for all of us to have a magazine about our business. All of us know that showreels are a little bit: "Hey i do this with after effects but in my live acts i'm not like this", i want to make a way of showing good performers by talking about them in the magazine, i know a lot of great performers that are not known by promoters and a lot of sh*tty that are very promoted. But i first of all, i want to make a collaborative magazine so everybody have something to say :)

[shudder inc]

do you have any kind of time frame as of yet? i realize it completely depends on content creation/submission but have you thought of any ideal dates for submission deadline for the first issue?
there are a couple of people, or more so one person and then a group of two that i would like to interview for an article. they are very active here in Chicago performing and setting up events that often benefit the local a/v community as a whole. i will speak with them over the weekend and make sure that they are interested.

[paranoidkarma]

Hi there :) I think the ideal deadline should be end of April for submissions and i will try to get the magazine ready for May :) Please do interviews and take photos :)

[dvjprotohippy]

Where can we send submissions to? Is there an e-mail address, or should I just PM them to you?

[paranoidkarma]

Please submit to paranoidkarma@vjkungfu.tv .doc .pdf .rtf :)

[paranoidkarma]

Add our myspace: www.myspace.com/visualaestheticsmag
And if you can, please donate for our hosting bills.

[paranoidkarma]

Last Information:
Anyone who donates for the magazine will have 1/2 page for advertisement :)

[Donnie Darko]

sounds fantastic

/bookmarks page for further reference of this endeavor

[paranoidkarma]

http://www.vimeo.com/906447

[defektv]

have you heard of : http://sceen.org ?

[vjpixylight]

thats a nice demo for sceen. Seems that a visual community outside these forums is vibrant.
VAM seems more a mag for what we talk about here, and have been talking about for a while, and would be more like a VJ community Mag..
Always room for both, and the more the merrier:)

[defektv]

sure! VAM sounds exciting!
i'm just questionning the "the first international magazine for visual artists" bit

[vjpixylight]

It's always a little fool hardy to claim first at anything, so true.
Maybe the first Mag "by VJ's for VJ's":D:D

[paranoidkarma]

i'm just questionning the "the first international magazine for visual artists" bit

I understand, but if you see SCEEN is not only for visual artists, was created for more individs, VAM purpose is to be a magazine for the comunity and to show our art to the world. You can be a SCEEN reader without beeing visual artist. Also VAM issues are created by everyone in the comunity, everybody can submit an article, a report, a review, how can be more international than that? Not the subject of the articles but the writers and the readers :)

Also SCEEN is a pay to read printed magazine, VAM is a free PDF magazine.
Maybe is should say "the first free international magazine for visual artists" :D

Still waiting for submissions from you guys :)

[SteveG]

How about drawing up a completed first copy as a PDF. Approach some of the publications to include it with their own e mag copies ie DJ Mag and any others applicable. A VJ Mag for VJ's will only be doing half a job....it's the outside world and the industry we want to be reaching. Perhaps if those publications saw a rise in their selling of e copies they may then decide to print and include a hard copy.

I'm willing to contribute to the web space once a full copy example has been produced. Could the forum contribute to it as they do now with the forum itself?

[SteveG]

Have you approached the major manufactureres for sponsorship yet? have they shown an interest if you have? Are they interested in advertising and launching products with the VJ Mag?

[theLABvisuals]

Still waiting for submissions from you guys :)
I for one am interested in the whole concept, I am also interested in how many are onboard with submissions and what submissions are being put forward.
Nothing worse than getting four articles the same. *How about some more information for those who are considering helping out? *It in my view would add a little substance to the great idea and may prompt more interest / articles.

(allthough personally I wouldnt have put a request out for donations to costs so early on)

Just my tuppence (at the mo).
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[bilderbuchi]

i also think it's a great idea, and would definitely read it. :-)
contribution-wise, though, i don't think that my journalistic skills are up to par for a good piece. :-/

[paranoidkarma]

How about drawing up a completed first copy as a PDF. Approach some of the publications to include it with their own e mag copies ie DJ Mag and any others applicable. A VJ Mag for VJ's will only be doing half a job....it's the outside world and the industry we want to be reaching. Perhaps if those publications saw a rise in their selling of e copies they may then decide to print and include a hard copy.


The first issue will be out when i got enough submissions, as i said a lot of people telling me they want to write but nobody send nothing yet, i'm doing some articles while waiting for others.
Including VAM in DJ Mag will not be worth since we have so many content to explore in a visuals magazine, they will never give us that number of pages. VAM will have is little share of music information to get that piece of readers, but we are mainly a magazine for visual artists, we want to be a compilation of the best articles, tutorials, ... about visuals.

The other question is harder, because i contacted Edirol, still waiting for a answer but i would need help on this, because i can't take everything, i have some people working on a marketing presentation but i need people who knows the companies dedicated to visuals so we can contact them directly and not by simple website forms where we will get forgotten.

In answer to theLAB, i'm asking for donations because this is a comunity project, not my own, i will not be earning money for me, i will be raising funds for hosting, future printed version (if we have requests for that) and to create VAM events for visual artists around the world. Of course for VAM events the sponsorship and ads sells will have a big word on this :)

About some of the visual artists that will be submiting:
Crustea - Mapping 08 report
Shudder inc - picking subject yet
Mavrick - Possibly VJo tutorial
Leolodreamland - Tutorials about content creation
lowRes - Possibly articles about audio visual performances
vdmoKstaTi - Video content creation
Mandymushroom - Events reports and visual artists profiles
SAPO - 3D Mapping tutorial using VJo
AlexEtJeremy - Picking Subject
Asterix - possibly helping
dvnt - possibly helping
bigfug - freeframe article
momothemonster - tutorials

And some more i have on my email.

:)

[SteveG]

Including VAM in DJ Mag will not be worth since we have so many content to explore in a visuals magazine, they will never give us that number of pages. VAM will have is little share of music information to get that piece of readers, but we are mainly a magazine for visual artists, we want to be a compilation of the best articles, tutorials, ... about visuals.

About some of the visual artists that will be submiting:
Crustea - Mapping 08 report
Shudder inc - picking subject yet
Mavrick - Possibly VJo tutorial
Leolodreamland - Tutorials about content creation
lowRes - Possibly articles about audio visual performances
vdmoKstaTi - Video content creation
Mandymushroom - Events reports and visual artists profiles
SAPO - 3D Mapping tutorial using VJo
AlexEtJeremy - Picking Subject
Asterix - possibly helping
dvnt - possibly helping
bigfug - freeframe article
momothemonster - tutorials

And some more i have on my email.

:)

You do not know you will be wasting your time with magazines like DJ Mag until you've communicated with them. If it increases their sales they would be interested. More and more DJ's are venturing into visuals and they realise that. Not only this but you then have the interest of companies such as Pioneer and Ableton, Numark etc etc.

One of the main interests of this mag is as a marketing tool. DO VJ's really want to read about other VJ's.....only to a degree. Or are you hoping it reaches further afield and potential clients.

It looks to me like you have enough input there to put out a first copy even if only a few pages. If the presentation is good etc etc....you'll be flooded with people wanting to be involved. it's all talk at the moment. produce something and you'll see the difference. If you dont you'll be talking about the VJ Mag this time next year.

[paranoidkarma]

You do not know you will be wasting your time with magazines like DJ Mag until you've communicated with them. If it increases their sales they would be interested. More and more DJ's are venturing into visuals and they realise that. Not only this but you then have the interest of companies such as Pioneer and Ableton, Numark etc etc.

One of the main interests of this mag is as a marketing tool. DO VJ's really want to read about other VJ's.....only to a degree. Or are you hoping it reaches further afield and potential clients.

It looks to me like you have enough input there to put out a first copy even if only a few pages. If the presentation is good etc etc....you'll be flooded with people wanting to be involved. it's all talk at the moment. produce something and you'll see the difference. If you dont you'll be talking about the VJ Mag this time next year.

You're right Steve, of course i want to make VAM also a marketing tool to promote our art and jobs, probably we're the most underpaid artists around the world and we need to create some hype around our art. Maybe contacting DJ Mag and create something like "one article from VAM per month", like picking some of VAM subjects and put it on DJ Mag like a monthly column. Don't forget i want to create "VAM Visual Awards" (fresh created name) for the best visual artists and techniques, hardware, software,... each year :) that can be of interest of DJ Mag to help support a event like that.

You also have a point when you say i could produce the first issue, but only with articles from this forum, first i need to take permission to compile them in the magazine, correct the errors (we all write fast on forums) and perfectly add them into the magazine layout for a visual eye candy. Doing this alone would take much longer than asking for submissions, i'm still expecting people that wishes to work with me (you don't need to write articles, you can review articles, contact sponsors, visual artists for interviews,...).

Lets all do an effort here :)

[SteveG]

Contact DJ Mag and discuss your idea. Remember I mentioned puting the mag out with their e copy of the Mag which is in PDF format, you'd just have to send a master to them for attachement. They may attach the whole Mag and VJ's would buy it from there. It could end up profitible very quickly for both yourself and DJ Mag, with over 8,000 VJ forum menbers....tempt DJ Mag with that carrott;)

[paranoidkarma]

Contact DJ Mag and discuss your idea. Remember I mentioned puting the mag out with their e copy of the Mag which is in PDF format, you'd just have to send a master to them for attachement. They may attach the whole Mag and VJ's would buy it from there. It could end up profitible very quickly for both yourself and DJ Mag, with over 8,000 VJ forum menbers....tempt DJ Mag with that carrott;)
I don't think is the best to sell the magazine for now, we can get more readers if its for free :) then we can think in expand

[mikef]

best to remember a magazine is something that comes out on a regular basis. whether quarterly or even yearly!

I admire your intentions, but working in the magazine industry my experience tells me assuming the flow of articles is not as easy as you think. Takes time and investment, lots of input from forums doesn't equal the same thing.

Sorry to sound so negative, but a VJ believing they can create something that publisher invests lots of time and money to create, is like a DJ who thinks they can VJ.

but i wish the best
good luck
mikef

[paranoidkarma]

Your experience is about printed magazine right? This is a PDF magazine.
See all the design magazines you have over the internet in .PDF format.
I had some art pieces photos on some of those magazines like CANDY*, Bastard and IDesign. The effort of creating a PDF magazine is not much, the problem is the content and if you want to add advertisement and to promote the magazine over the internet.
Design magazines are easy because their base is pictures, in OUR magazine we need to review all the articles for errors, rearrange the text order and work with the layout design of the magazine.
I know it will be hard to get content for montly issues but we can do it, we have a lot to do, and i'm not only a VJ, i have a communication design degree, worked as european general chief for one of the biggest electronic sports comunity websites: Amped News (now http://www.gamer20.com), worked as reporter doing coverage for the Samsung World Cyber Games, got in wNv (www.wnv-gaming.com) where i worked as Chief of Business Overseas (i did the marketing connection between european companies and our asian office) working with Intel and Microsoft. Trust me, i do fight and i will make this true so Mikef please help us since you have experience in magazines.

[paranoidkarma]

The website is almost done for now you can go to the blog :)
Who wants to help by posting news and articles on the blog please send me a private message so i can setup an account.
www.va-mag.net/blog

[paranoidkarma]

The Deadline for Submissions is 15 May, i'm waiting for the articles, if everybody wants to have a magazine then please share the word for submiting articles for VAM :)

[paranoidkarma]

Today i will upload to the server the alpha version of the VAM website.
Please visit www.va-mag.net

[Liquidmetro]

Still seeing the holding page....keep us posted!

[Liquidmetro]

bump! :confused:

[paranoidkarma]

I'm not dead :P i will be working this week on VAM, expect updates.
I'm in VACATIONS WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :D

[bilderbuchi]

fyi: seems these guys are also working on a VJ publication:
http://www.visualjockey.ch/en.html
do you know of this?

[paranoidkarma]

I already noticed that website, the main problem of creating a magazine is that everybody wants it but only one or two want to help, i got emails from people who wanted to help, i reply them and still waiting for their articles, i will put articles that i'm writing and others i'm picking over the internet, but i will not put them in a mag issue but in VAM website, when i got a team to work then we will put the first issue out, for now i'm working on VAM website and we will have the "mag" online in the website on a non downloadable version.

[paranoidkarma]

Do you want VAM? Please help. I will not work alone on this, i will prepare the first issue and then i will quit the project, because is easy to say "i want to help" and then delete the VAM emails from the mailbox.
If you guys want the mag that will help everybody by promoting our work help, if not, i will not burn my brain by contacting a lot of pseudo helpers everyday asking for the articles they said they would do.
I'm not earning nothing with VAM so don't think that i'm doing this for money, i want to promote our business.

I'm sorry that i was so "rude".

[mf]

what happened to the magazine?
not even the first issue, let alone a regular issue!
maybe this is harder than you thought

mike

[paranoidkarma]

As you can read in my last post, is hard to work on this alone, with all my gigs and my job it's hard to put the first issue out alone, i'm still working on it but is a slow path.