showing stuff to each other thread

[agsystems]

i thought it would be good if there was a thread where people could give links to films/loops they've made, and offer criticism... i thought this had probably already been done somewhere, but couldn't find it...

so kinda kicking it off
[in order of size&therefore how long it'll take to load]
www.psi-o.net/agsystems/wind.html
www.psi-o.net/agsystems/prism.html
and
www.psi-o.net/agsystems/b-space.swf

i know you could link to these from my site anyway, but this is a more specific asking for criticism type post

be rude if you like

:)

[holly]

Cool, but I was expecting something a little more "video" and a little less "web" ? especially with your moniker subtitle of videoartist. The first one "Bridge" comes out the best. "Prism" is too large and not seamless enough. Some sort of audio might add to these toys. The third one had no interaction so I was dissapointed. Video too crunchy for me. Bouncey music!

Ok, here's one back at you:
http://www.forwardmotiontheater.org/Works/Pod/media2.html
About a minute .mov, 7megs or so. Ambientish-grind.

[agsystems]

holly, very swish and smooth, what are the funny symbols?
nudy lady much appreciated :)
[seriously though i'm glad to see something other than mirrorised vids of roads and dolphins]

i'm not sure i understand, 'a little more "video" and a little less "web"'... i am getitng more into web based stuff, so i guess you may be right, but im not sure of the destinction...

i love crunchy video, in fact the original is less crunchy, but the online version needs to be more so, so it doesn't take days to load, however, i like all the codec squares, and i think i may be working them more heavily into new visions in the future...

sorry to disappoint with the lack of interaction, i was unsure about introducing that sort of thing as it seems [to me] to be a 'finished thing' and interaction seems like a seperate issue

oh, do you mean prism is too large file size or too large in space?...i should make it a resizable window maybe?...ooh web/video issues again...

ok enough for now, i'm a bit drunk and don't want to say the wrong thing

i consider myself a videoArtist, as i make video, which expresses my mood/self ad i dont really like the VJ title, as i actually make the vid [like most people here probly do], not just Jockey it, it's not the same as DJ'ing, its better..[*god i sound pretentious!! sorry i'm not really*]..actually i'm more into making vids ad showing them in their own right than trying to adjust them so they fit in with some cheesy dj...ok now i'm ranting[i'm really trying not to], so i'll do the decent thing and stop..g-night

[holly]

...But mirrored dolphins was gonna be my next vid....:evil:

Didn't mean any insult by web vs video. Web has interactivity, Video is sit and watch. I was only dissapointed at no interactivity because the first two had it and it was like, "Ooh, cool, web toys!" Then I'm clicking on the third one and sometimes things happen but not always then I realize it's not me at all, just the video running (d'oh!):D

Yeah, it was something about BRIDGE staying the small screen size, while PRISM filled the whole screen. BRIDGE just seemed more controlled and the video was perfectly framed behind the roll-over effect. That's all. Crunchy video is a style, so you'll get people who like it and people who don't. It fit the third piece for sure.

I guess I also call myself a videoartist because I couldn't care less about the DJ. There are people here who obsess on getting the cuts right on the beat. Maybe it's just me (or my footage) but when I go back and watch my tape, I don't like it right on the beat. Seems rushed and mechanical, so I don't do it anymore. I figure the DJ can follow my visuals as easily as I can follow his beats ? and anyway, how hard is it to follow trance beats? I think of myself as a visual mood designer. It's like wallpaper. It's gotta be stylish, but go with everthing.

Next up: I shot this video out the front of my car. I set the mixer to kinda double and reflect the image so it looks really cool! You'll like it!:p

[pillow]

You forgot to put the link holly.
The floating woman like a spirit is truely stylish. props.

Here a website with some greats videos.
http://www.momentfactory.com/
mine are #7,9, 13, 28. they are 2 years old.
you may need to try a 2nd time to see the past videos.

[vjpixylight]

I don't have many individually made clips up, but you can see them in my VJ mix material up at:
http://pixylight.vjcentral.com/projects

as far as Video Artist and VJ's, I do see quite a difference in the terminolgy..

Video artist usually come from a more tech/video editing background, are more likely to create their own material, that they show at screenings/artsy gatherings, and for the most part are not performed live..(generally)

The VJ, on the other hand is more of a live media artist, that can blend many forms of media, to a specific type of sound..wether R&R or techno, the VJ learns his/her art in a live setting by observing what the peeps like and don't like within his/her visual mixing capabilities...

If I was going to hazard a guess as to how many VJ's create strictly there own content, in the way a Video Artist does, I would give it about 50/50, as VJ visualz has to be presented in much longer spans of time, ergo, many VJ's need for traded and/or "found footage". (again generally speaking)

[vjpixylight]

as for your clips ag,
I am unfortunately at the moment on dialup, and have to wait to get to the studio to see your clips..:(
But I did DL the flash file, and thought it was interesting, tho like holly said, there are those who look at crunch differently.. To me the crunchy stuff like that flash clip requires less work, and would be much reasier too make, but thats just me...Crunchy (to me falls in the same category of feedback, and fractalizing..nothing wrong with either, but not the full meal deal either:)

[videoteque]

Hello!

I want to put my videos to the judgement too... Go to my web, www.videoteque.tv and in the VJ Gallery section I put four videos.

Sorry the web is working only in italian. The videos are edited nothing realtime, my style is usually a lot more experimental, but I wanted to finish the web and I made these. Feel free to critize the web too!!!

Thanks!

[agsystems]

hahaholly, how about a dolphin in a car checking it's mirror?maybe at night with some speeded up traffic?

er, pixy
i do kind of take issue with the 'it takes less work' comment there....
i wouldn't use raw footage, there's always alot of editing and processing involved with my stuff
the crunch is very muh what interests me, i wouldn't say that what i make is easy, however even if it was, are we saying that if somethings easy its instantly not as good, i'd say that using 'found material' is easier, it's also quite easy to produce 'high quality' smooth-video. i think it's more important to have something that is interesting/unusual...

if you look into modern art, you see there's alot of stuff where people say "my 5 year old kid could have done that", yet it's that stuff that's really interesting, 'cos this highly skilled 50 year old artist/craftsman has done it, and he's not lazy, so you have to think about why hes done it... blahdy blah...it's a tired argument....

crunchy's most definatly 'my bag', so sorry if i'm a bit defensive here

anyways i didn't mean this thread to just be about my stuff, but hey there's some interesting points being raised, so...

pillow, i think i lke the white one with the people best[#9] with the crazy violin techno:)

pixy, i took a look at 'Plur VJ Mix-Pixy W/ Oak Spyrit', the dancing red guy on the beach annoyed me, but i quite liked the bit over the top

videoteque, you posted while i was writing this.... what can i say, i like the vids more than the tv[sorry that sounds rude, i do quite like the tv's kitch value]

[vjrei]

What we can do is to place a symbolic clip, I mean, do not place only your favory but something for example "blue screen based clip" for those that had the opportunity to do such a thing, or "trance based" or "house music based" clips.

Do I make sence?

In that way (at list I would) understand more each concept.

I may upload one of my stuuf later.

[vjpixylight]

Originally posted by agsystems
hahaholly, how about a dolphin in a car checking it's mirror?maybe at night with some speeded up traffic?

er, pixy
i do kind of take issue with the 'it takes less work' comment there....
i wouldn't use raw footage, there's always alot of editing and processing involved with my stuff
the crunch is very muh what interests me, i wouldn't say that what i make is easy, however even if it was, are we saying that if somethings easy its instantly not as good, i'd say that using 'found material' is easier, it's also quite easy to produce 'high quality' smooth-video. i think it's more important to have something that is interesting/unusual...

if you look into modern art, you see there's alot of stuff where people say "my 5 year old kid could have done that", yet it's that stuff that's really interesting, 'cos this highly skilled 50 year old artist/craftsman has done it, and he's not lazy, so you have to think about why hes done it... blahdy blah...it's a tired argument....

crunchy's most definatly 'my bag', so sorry if i'm a bit defensive here



maybe easy wasn't the right word here, so plez excuss that comment...Maybe a better description about chunky, is that since it is low rez, it would take much less time to make...

I aways anaylize clips I see by how I would be make them, so to make the clip like you have with the .swf, I would have used a sound reactive program like G-force, throw in some abstract line art sprites into it, zoom in on it to get it chunky, and record the output..

When I get a chance to get on broadband, I will give all you other VJ's work a check...

[agsystems]

"I aways anaylize clips I see by how I would be make them, so to make the clip like you have with the .swf, I would have used a sound reactive program like G-force, throw in some abstract line art sprites into it, zoom in on it to get it chunky, and record the output.. "
well it wasn't that high tech, but a bit more work, there was also some care and attention in there too, nevermind.

i wanted to do something other than throwing together random imagery, or 'trippy tubes' etc.. i've seen so much of this stuff, and it's dull now.[i admit to using some video feedback in there, but the particular clip fitted the sound so well i just had to]

i want to make/see visuals which have as much consideration, care and attention or energy, taken over it as is taken over the creation of music.

i don't mean to get argumentative[reading back, it sounds a bit like it is], i'm just trying to articulate what i mean

right i'm off...

[ecin]

i just finished building our website for triggermotion so i thought i'd share some of our work with you all. you may have seen some of the pieces already as I posted them here a while back.

check it out (http://www.triggermotion.com) and let me know what you think.

BTW - for anyone mixing with SWF files, I've got a section specifically for the download of some of my loops. hope you like em'

:D

[agsystems]

site's a teeny bit frustrating with all the scrolling up and down

like the start of the "research" film, but then it gets a bit cheesy for my liking [to be honest]

though, the site IS beautiful
and the films ARE pretty bloody nice too in parts, bit cheesy-but in others they're outstanding

when it gets going "requiem for a film" rocks!

all for now..
i'm going to watch a couple more

[ecin]

thanx for the input, i'll see what i can do about the long video page, i may convert that section to flash.

curious to know, specifically, what you mean by "cheesy"? its helpful to me to understand your point of view in order to improve my work. i'll be the first to admit I'm not completely satisfied with all the footage and editing we've done but had to let it go eventually. one can spend an infinite amount of time on any project and never consider it complete.

[zeist]

RE:http://www.forwardmotiontheater.org

she reminds me of the stage-acter on david lynches EraserHead.. which is a good thing for you im sure ;)

s

[dlublin]

Sample live lmnopf set -
http://www.lmnopf.com/swiss.html

Live sampling of a footage shot on a trip to Europe.

Music by Back From Japan

[holly]

VJ/DJ mixes kick butt, Ecin. Can't wait to see you guys at EyeWash again! I'm loving those FLASHES. Retrolines is very cool.

...must go re-design entire website now....

[ecin]

:D

[holly]

Sample live lmnopf set -
http://www.lmnopf.com/swiss.html
You gu-uys, ya gotta put up clips that are smaller than 360MB.... About 10MB should get you a couple of minutes' worth. Hi-bandwidth is cable/DSL, not T-3.... Some people are still on dial-ups at home (and on the road).

Excellent set at EyeWash last week! lmnopf did a whole live-shaving thing that was so wild, and their software broke up the image in so many ways.... Very Cubist. Very cool!

[agsystems]

*/curious to know, specifically, what you mean by "cheesy"?/*

i think mixing the bmx footage with the balet, is a bit of a heavy handed 'street culture is just as good as high culture' kinda statement

the vj clips are the cheesy bits really, psycodelic nuddy ladies, and the old driving down the road footage that everyone adn his dog seem to use.. and i hate those squares on the first vj bit...
i think they need either a bit less filtering or a whole load more...[personally i prefer more, but thats me]

defining "cheesy" is a bit of a tricky thing, as it's more of a feel than a specific thing... sorry i'll try not to use that word again:)

[ecin]

Originally posted by agsystems
i think mixing the bmx footage with the balet, is a bit of a heavy handed 'street culture is just as good as high culture' kinda statement

interesting that you look at it this way as i never intended it be a "class" or "culture" thing but more of a contrast between the 2 arts as you rarely see them combined. do you feel dance is more high class than bmx?

the vj clips are the cheesy bits really, psycodelic nuddy ladies, and the old driving down the road footage that everyone adn his dog seem to use.. and i hate those squares on the first vj bit...
i think they need either a bit less filtering or a whole load more...[personally i prefer more, but thats me]

that "nudy lady" is my wife :D - just some fun we had one night with the camera feeding back to the projector that was supplying the light behind her.

to each his own i suppose, i rarely shoot for any sort of "deep" meaning in any of my work, i consider myself more of a visualist than conceptualist.

;)

[agsystems]

*/do you feel dance is more high class than bmx?/*

certainly not, that's not exactly what i meant...
there are certain types of art which are seen [like it or not] as 'high art' or 'high culture' like balet, opera, etc etc... there's no way i'd say either bmx or ballet is better or more classy than the other, but they certainly have simelarities, and quite strong cultural stereotypes
if you didn't think the film could be read in this way i'm really quite surprised

everything has meaning to someone intended or not

i do like your stuff, just saw cleansing, now that rocks...and makes me like marlyn manson more... :)

[wallnoise]

Here's a tame little video:
http://www.greenfools.com/sinsmovie.html
Not exactly a VJ piece, but I have cut up parts and used them for such.

[agsystems]

ok so you're all going to hate it or not be able to download it, and the qualitys really shit [so that it's a realistic loading size, although it's still 3.4MB, so be warned] but here's my latest full length type film [as opposed to a loop]

the HTML one has some explainatory text, and pictures, it all works fine on my mac, but I've not tested the code on pc, so... sorry in advance
http://www.psi-o.net/agsystems/processFlow.html

also there's the SWF if the HTML wont work
http://www.psi-o.net/agsystems/processFlow.swf

I made the music/sound too, my musical friends have been busy but nothings finished, and I'm impatient.
the film is experimental, and I'm not making wild claims about it, but I do like it, and I'd like comments, good or bad, but not indifferent please....

:drums: [no reason for the smiley, but I like it so much....]

[Rovastar]

Originally posted by agsystems
:drums: [no reason for the smiley, but I like it so much....]

hehe I didn't realise they would be so popular.

[bluntfaktory]

agsystems , i like numbers , and i like the black background one most of all i find that a black background gives an image a seemlessness that makes it smoother to mix . keep on keeping on . if you like check out my demo on my site www.bluntfaktory.com it on the first page then try the services page there are a few little ones on there too .

[bluntfaktory]

thanks wallnoise now i'm going to have night mares , thanks a bunch !

[bluntfaktory]

agsystems , i like numbers , and i like the black background one most of all i find that a black background gives an image a seemlessness that makes it smoother to mix . keep on keeping on . if you like check out my demo on my site www.bluntfaktory.com it on the first page then try the services page there are a few little ones on there too .

[wallnoise]

@bluntfaktory

sorry, I only meant to mildly disturb, not to cause nightmares.

[high1memo]

thats some f***** up s**t!, nice!
I juz started putting together a website, and after 2 days went on a 3 week holiday, so its up there all unfinished and crap...but I'm too busy havin fun to care :)

http://AbstractShit.com
all vids are vcd quality mpg.
not all really related to vj stuff, mainly juz the 3rd row, and possibly the 2nd and 4th row vids as well,
as theres no info at all on the site heres a quick blurb:
the top vid - 30sec logo/ident type thing. VERY simple and not much happening. 4.9MB
2nd row - a 2 min tribute to a beautiful song and an even more beautiful actress - its actually not finished yet, still work in progress, waiting for me to get back home. 23MB.
3rd row- a 25sec loop, juz some abstract s**t, this is the kinda stuff i really like doing. 4.3MB
3rd row (to the right of the prev one) - juz a spaced out bus going round a corner in camden slowed down to be 40seconds long. Kinda like what a bus going round a corner does look like in camden when its 7am :confused: and yer looking for a new place to go after a gr8 nite. 5MB. If u wait half an hour to dl this on a 56K modem and see nothing but a bus goin round a corner real slow, dont complain!!! i told you!!!
4th row - old video edit i did to some NIN using the only footage I had:160x120x15fps avis of skateboarding, and great whites. and scans of album covers, mags etc. Lotsa fast cuts in this one. 14MB
5th row - 4min paragliding vid. nothing special, I juz love paragliding (its what this 3weeks holiday is for). 43MB. Dont bother if yer not interested in paragliding and dl 43MB is gonna take you ages, as I said, nothing special visuals wise.
6th row - 1min (each) teasers for a freestyle motox game I been workin on for the past 2 bloody years - should be out in the shops any day now (wont give any names as thatll be advertising and I dont sell out and commercialize while we are discussing the arts :) although if you watch the vids, you'll see anyways). nothing special visuals wise, but it was a lotta fun shooting these :) 11MB each.

you can be as harsh as you want, i'm on holiday, i'm happy:D

[shikakufx]

here is mine, its not finished yet, no sound, but I wanted some imput.

www.shikakufx.com/video

[ecin]

Originally posted by shikakufx
here is mine, its not finished yet, no sound, but I wanted some imput.

www.shikakufx.com/video

i dig it.

nice video, nice website.

[agsystems]

i dig it too, v-stylish, i like the limited colour range, it gives class...
does seem a bit adverty though? i suppose it is - is it? an ad for shikakufx?
if so maybe make it shorter?,
much as i like it, it does take an age to download even with the broadband..

right, i'm off for a :pint:

[shikakufx]

Originally posted by agsystems
i dig it too, v-stylish, i like the limited colour range, it gives class...
does seem a bit adverty though? i suppose it is - is it? an ad for shikakufx?
if so maybe make it shorter?,
much as i like it, it does take an age to download even with the broadband..

right, i'm off for a :pint:

Thanks, for your comments, boths It does look a little bit adverty, like you said, but is not, shikaku is my name as an artist, I wanted to make something with a clubbing look and feel, about brazilian women, and how gorgeous they are.

that will be all sliced up in the future, and ready for live mixing, I come from the advertising field, I just started vj dough but I been working as motion graphics designer for a long time.. maybe that is why it looks like and ad huh?

I like abstract stuff , but Im more about clips with content than like somebody said earlier, mirrored images spinning.

I dont really know what others vjs are doing, that is why I think this post is great.. I can see others people work and learn from it! :)

[agsystems]

*/ I like abstract stuff , but Im more about clips with content than like somebody said earlier, mirrored images spinning./*
you don't have to have [recognisable] 'content' to be interesting, but maybe it's best not to be as obvious as spinny mirrors etc........
i like the way your stuff looks [and i'm assuming Kommy's wrong?] it's very clear that a good deal of the styling and graphics ARE yours, if the video clips aren't then i dont see a problem in that , as they are merely an element of your work not the whole thing. I for one don't care about stolen footage as long as it's used well


kommy-no need to be a rudeRed [&get a grip]

krezrock- whats with the boring dj-vids??

*i'm being opinionated today-and i'm not sorry*

[LEVLHED]

a lil SWF (http://vjcentral.com/~portal/LEVLtracking.swf) that I put together for the avit.org.uk site bio thingy

[agsystems]

help! my tracking's all out...
where's my mommy??

[Morninglight]

My first flash:

http://www.morninglight.nl/3dpijl.swf

:help:

[holly]

Morninglight:
Weird, all I see is:

CWS?x??``?a`?;???c?????????H22?OcI?1/2c1/4???7?_?;8|g????_??` z/???S<caron>u????ZqqflK??U?fV\}R??{?-??J? ????3/44os????<M??=;???K???~i=?V??.K?7?.??R?LXsF-????#l_hu??'?=
? ]ll?@7??'5980_C_,HV????C+???"? ??|?`;5!?flJv?!;& ?NE2???2_?@70??P???A?z<caron> ?n??`OhB?g"?_??~???H?? ??S<caron>?fi?!?X@n8s3??u!?fi!?E??Q ?fiy ?ktXhc??@?;? ?}??
?n`?AnL
+??t{?{fi{??1/2??^s?fl??`o-@?w@?? ??? W??A

Did you check your embed/object tags?

[Morninglight]

Originally posted by holly
Morninglight:
Weird, all I see is:


+??t{?{fi{??1/2??^s?fl??`o-@?w@?? ??? W??A

Did you check your embed/object tags?

embed :confused: where do I do that?

it works fine overhere in resolume or internetexplorer... it's flash 6 btw

http://www.morninglight.nl/3dv5.swf

maybe the flash 5 version works for you?

[holly]

It's not the flash version. I'm all up-to-date, and I'm on InternetExploder on Mac. I downloaded instead of web-browsed, but you should look at Web Monkey or a similar html-help-site which can explain how you "embed" the swf into a webpage so the plug-in can recognize it and activate properly.

It's cute! I like the bold colors.

[Morninglight]

Originally posted by holly


It's cute! I like the bold colors.

I like high contrast stuff :)

It's a swift3d v3 object animated in FlashMX, I'm happy with my first flashy thing :)

[JeSs]

This is a project I'm working on at the moment:
demo (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/eyehear/demo.htm)
Has its still work in progress (first performance in a mounth) any constructive (wonder if you can say that in english :confused: ) feedback would be good.
Has we get more done I think I might update the demo.

[Morninglight]

motion tweening isn't that difficult :)


http://www.morninglight.nl/star.swf

I know the flash isn;t that flashy but I see some use of these simple ting.. superimpose onto video or other flashy stuff :cool:

[silk]

morninglight : The requested URL was not found on this server :help:

jess: bring it on jess way motown :jump:

[shikakufx]

Originally posted by kommy
i see a motiondive stock clip and that girl from that music video, whats yours?

oh yeah... i like the mix though

hmmm.. uhh, Every thing else..
What you called "Stolen" I like to call it sampled, the same way I do it with my music, I think sampling is in itself another form of art, none of the clips you saw are beign used without tweeking them.

Exactly the same way you did with the pictogram font that you are using on your avatar...

[holly]

Ignore kommy's social skills, Shikaku. He doesn't know the difference between pepper spray and a fire hose, and he's giving you a compliment so take it at face value. So what if you use samples people have seen. It's a weird perception that your VJ must either be totally obscure or totally original. I would like to see more samples being used commonly among many VJs. It lets you see what fx he's done to it or even gives a reference to the scene. Yo, reprezent! MotionDive in da haus!

Besides, I have exactly ONE sample in my whole VJ (3 seconds of a 1950's woman smiling) and I showed it last week and then this guy runs up to me and says "Hey, you just showed that woman ? She's from "Design for Dreaming" and my company published that title on laserdisc!" Ha ha ha ha ha! What are the odds?! People like to recognize things. It makes them feel like you have a connection.

I like the faux software box. That's very clever. How many times do I see download-only software with a fake box trying to look legit on their website?! I love this idea! I think I must sample it from you now....What is Holly...? Holly is a new product that will change your life....

[holly]

Such a great demo! I was put off by the opening vintage train station black&white, but by the time it got to the traffic cops and signs I was hooked! Oh yeah! The rock-back-and-forth worked so much better on the 1970's cars and trucks than on the old b&w footage for some reason. Vintage 70's is way hipper than vintage 40's, and I would guess would be more popular for the party sound.... Old subways are cool! All in all: tight, very fun audio, very cool idea.

What I suggest for constructive critisism is: I like the long video samples, but maybe have more "pop-in" samples that are subtle and do not have sound attached so you can use more of them more often to sprinkle throughout, and I think they should visually have more *ZOW* with bolder colors and a sharp (luma?)key. "PARTY TIME" worked this way, but was also very recognizable and shouldn't be used too often, while another "OOH" (was like a head in a floating star?) wasn't sharp/contrast enough against the background. Lips also did not work for me because of the way they are keyed seems to wash out the image with too much white. Some more textures would be nice, especially if they fit in with the theme (grafitti, old subway maps, traffic signs, newsprint-halftone dots...?) I dunno. Thanks!

[shikakufx]

Originally posted by kommy
well you gave the impression you made the clip, i can take other peoples loops edit them together change the hue and slap my name on it as well.
and we do it all the time, its called a mix.

weasels try and take credit for it

i dont even care, whatever

Yes I know that, I did the clip, yes I did used those samples you recognized, again just like you did with your avatar. 80 of the music you listen to this days does the same thing, why not doing it in video?

like you said..
whatever..
peacehttp://www.vjforums.com/newreply.php?action=newreply&postid=28429#

[shikakufx]

Originally posted by holly
Ignore kommy's social skills, Shikaku. He doesn't know the difference between pepper spray and a fire hose, and he's giving you a compliment so take it at face value. So what if you use samples people have seen. It's a weird perception around here that your VJ must either be obscure or original.

That is exactly my point Holly, thanks.

I wonder what does he do when he is vj on a club that plays house music, the use a lot of samples from old records,

-Hey DJ!!! what are you doing! that is STOLEN from an old Roy Ayers record!!! you weasel!!!!
:jump2:

[holly]

Maybe the soda cans and car logos would have sparked more ire? Or maybe he worked in print.... Maybe he just liked that little animation?

You're such an anarchist, kommy! Must you question the validity of everything? Use your powers for good....:D

[shikakufx]

Originally posted by kommy
i just think its funny that someone who says "i come from the advertising field, and ive been working as a motion graphics designer for a long time"
wouldnt just make there own motion graphics for a clip that was only like 30seconds long in the first place, especially since it is the only and first clip you chose to show a room full of vjs and motiongraphics designers.

You seem to care a lot about for somebody that mimics Shepard Fairy's work and rips a dingbat libraries to make personal logo. :nod:

PS: Im not going to reply anymore to your attacks, if you want to give me constructive criticism, great.
Otherwise, "whatever"
peace

[holly]

Ha! Yes, this is not college. It is better to hear it here first than in the club with a stranger when you will be flustered and thrown off your mix. Something like that can stick in your head all night. We will not coddle you, and don't expect easy praise because we know exactly how much work yer doing over there. We will be your harshest critics so walk that narrow line or else!:help: :fridge: :flamethro :crazy: :bullshit: :argue: :banghead: :cry: :lurker2: :moon: :poke: :pirate: :punch: :smack: :bottomfee :whip: :terror: :nono: :grrr: :scared:

[shikakufx]

Originally posted by kommy
youre funny. i wasnt mimicing faireys work, i was using his own work to make fun of itself,
like i do with you
tee hee
:poke:

riiiiiiiight...

the cards turned now huh, kommy?

Now my spidy senses were tingling a little... haha..

[shikakufx]

Oh, wait...
I think my spidy senses are tingling a little more..
I think I sense you backing up...
I guess you realiced even you sample as much as everybody huh?

its all good dough..

I wish I can see your work now..
see what do you have to back such an attitude..

so..
what do you say if you step in to the podium..

Its so easy to nock others people work down, but it stops beign funny once you are on the table.

[shikakufx]

Just found your website...
It says there that you design flyers, there..
I see a lot of mike cina and bradley grosh visual elements in there.. some mike young too.. damn, just looking at your work I can see we even like the same artist..

If you dont know those 3 guys.. I can say they are ripping your style..
what a shame those guys are sure biting your style and making money out of it.

:poke:


I guess i did have something to say huh?
like holly said, better me in this forum that somebody else in the club..

peace:poke:

[shikakufx]

you dont like it so much now huh?

its good that we both like the same designers and we even think the same about the other one being a weasel huh?

I was just using elements on a video, just like you seem to do in everything you have on your website, (I havent got the chance to see your video work) specially your static work, the clouds, (hydro74 maybe?) the diagonal lines, typography, the phatoulined circles, and lets not even talk about your pro active propaganda.. yeah..

and you think you can put others people work down... oh please.. check yours before doing it, next time..

And, oh yeah...
Im still waiting for the video :nod:

[holly]

Ok, you two. You've just made this thread a lot less fun for everyone else.
Since it's like looking in a mirror, it's time to kiss and make up.
:love2:

[shikakufx]

hahaha..
riiiiiiiiight.. im twisting in, but I didnt get no reply on you ripping of the following:

-The dingbat font "Devil Inside" (letter u)
-Bradley Grosh's streched images.
-Fatoutlined circles, clouds, plus signs, etc
-Obey Giants' entire propaganda concept, idea for sitckers and even the not very accurate intent of biting the roots of russian constructivism that shepard uses for his obey project and blk mrkt agency.

I think you are the weasel here..

now im fine.

lets make out.
holly is right.



:jump2:

[shikakufx]

still no link to video work...
afraid of something?

I guess I was a little harsh in those last posts.. but I did told the truth didnt I?

peace out

[shikakufx]

why are you getting so upset..
insulting me like that.. huh?
There is no need to be like that..

Did I just brought on the table some aspects of your work that you didn't want em to be in the light?
and not in this particular thread?
oops.. sorry..
next time check yourself before insulting somebody elses work.

and still no link ..
pathetic

[shikakufx]

Like I said before..
the cards turned now huh, kommy?

[robotfunk]

give it a miss.

[Morninglight]

hey dudez... this is a showthread, I've just skipped 1.5 page with no useful stuff :confused:


http://www.morninglight.nl/waaiertrans.swf

http://www.morninglight.nl/stars.swf

the stars swf is not really sophisticated flash but I find that kind of stuff very useful when overlaying it onto something with lots of moving colors :)

[agsystems]

i really like this really simple flash animation craze that's goiing round at the mo'

reminds me of all that 'white stripes'/'strokes' type music, all simple and innocent and to the point...

[LEVLHED]

ok here's a crummy one for you
http://www.levlhed.com/flake1.swf

and a lil meatier one
http://www.levlhed.com/ZR00.swf

[Morninglight]

Originally posted by LEVLHED
ok here's a crummy one for you
http://www.levlhed.com/flake1.swf

and a lil meatier one
http://www.levlhed.com/ZR00.swf

nice :)

[spark]

*spark in new set shocker! and i actually remembered to get some screengrabs when playing it out for the first time... check www.sparkav.co.uk -> downloads for the full 10 or so panels (it'll be up once i've got that font back...), and there's one attached here.

for those that care, its my own flash animations mixed live in vdmx3, with licensed photos taken by one of my residency's promoters (www.smallkid.co.uk).

toby

ps. so the mix out is the middle one, and you get to see the effected preview of the two channels making the mix on either side.

[spark]

ah, its wierd seeing just one. here's another.

[spark]

and a third.

toby

[neoteo]

p2p program ... (http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/)

[labmeta]

Here's a few screengrabs from my show last night.

MIxed from some of the events Licensed photographs from Dave Duffy[subcultural imaging]

[Lucidhouse]

Some lovely work all round _ great collection in moment factory

I've recently added a third demo clip(demo 3: with music by leftfield)... it's a loose reconstruction, a segment of the one a/v set I did at avit lounge...

I recorded 2 live visual tracks of the same theme in my studio, then cut and mixed them together to create demo. So its partly live recording partly cut, paste and tweek.


http://www.lucidhouse.com

[RayV]

my show reel was UL courtesy of pixy @
www.mountaintrance.com
under media (down at the bottom of the page)

u can have a glance @ pixi's works as well as inside-us-all's showreels & mo'

It's ain't new showreel but I am into reading your honest feedbacks
-ray-v :o

[LEVLHED]

LEVLfukt (18mb swf) (http://www.levlhed.com/LEVLfukt3.swf)

made with Rebelle and Ambrazier

[BrainStove]

Cool, nicely done Lev :yep:

Now I can see why you are digging deeper in the OldSkoll A/V side of VJing, I use to do that sorta stuff 20 t/years ago when all this shit use to be called VideoArt.

But WatchOut epileptics out there!!! :D :S

[kommy]

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[BerzalonFlange]

levlhed. thats some intense medicine. :yep:

[stigeredoo]

www.stigeredoo.com


There's some viddis for you all to look at inside my site. I have never vj'ed but it seems like an interesting thing to do. Trying out software these days..

stig