who is your favourite Vj [Archive]

Primebase3

16th April 2003, 07:52 AM

Dept (are you still out there!!) 00-Kaap , Vision Impossible, Nog Harder, Danielle Kwaaitaal (all amsterdam)

no (extremly)high profile but diverse homemade content, and cool styles all around. some off them put vjing on the map and apart from that , I'll never forget when I watch a chemistry show on veronica en kaap was smoking this big cigar while jamming on his mx-50 just mixing cool ...Been a vj kid since :) ....aah nevermind

"taste is an opinion"
-problably anybody.

nuroptics

16th April 2003, 02:51 PM

~ EBN
~ Science (UK, I think) no longer active to my knowledge
~ Overscan (London) Fluffy cgi for the disco biscuit generation (www.overscan.co.uk)
~ Eyemax (London) Intense cgi, no longer active in the visuals but now works under psi-borg for his cgi work - (www.psi-borg.com)

Best of luck with the book

mondo

29th April 2003, 01:05 PM

mike
ive been impressed with eclectic method recently....and vj anyone has some beauticul bits.

also chenko - for the ideas and the excellent quality output

:-a

InsideUsAll

29th April 2003, 03:42 PM

my arch rival: ToddAVinIT [UK] :evil:

beautifully different: lightMotive [DE]

lives in a castle, and makes incredible cgi: el geko

and of course us! :p

foryoureye

29th April 2003, 04:39 PM

Otolab from Italy http://www.otolab.net

and Ulli Sigg, Germany... http://www.ulisigg.de

and from Vienna Synoptics http://synoptics.tv

edibleplastyc

29th April 2003, 11:04 PM

me? ;) hehehe (ozzie/kiwi humour)

but then again I havent really seen that many other vj's from the rest of the world, only a few in nz and a couple in oz, i dont know if that sounds full of myself or not, but i would certainly battle anyone who wanted to battle.

and the international heavyweight title goes to????

hmmmmmmm..

hahahahaha..

edibleplastyc
www.plastyctoy.com

vjpixylight

29th April 2003, 11:24 PM

I have seen quite a few Vj's from both euro and the US, and honestly, none of them stick out...(well okay I was fairly impressed with the solid rocket boosters, from the north of Holland, but as far as live VJ's, most are pretty much in the same league..

It is different if you start comparing video artistry, as Video artists can spend eons on making thier video top notch, but we really aren't comparing video editors to live VJ's...are we??
:cool:

edibleplastyc

29th April 2003, 11:32 PM

vjing is about the live composing i believe but coupled with the artistry of the content.

i agree pix, no one vj has really stood out to me, even the touring vj's that have come to nz with the big acts.

so yeah....... its a hard one.

vjpixylight

29th April 2003, 11:57 PM

yea edible,

I think that there are many similar in quality VJ's out there, because we all do basically the same things with similar softs..

I haven't acctually seen many Live PA AV VJ's that include music in their program, but I think that kind of Vj would surely be considered a notch above the rest...hexstatic comes to mind here, but I've never seen him..

:)

vjrei

30th April 2003, 01:04 AM

Me, and I'm not kidding. Of course I haven't been in other countries but when I started a year 1/2 ago I said to my self all the time "I can do that and better" and I'm doing it.

There are 2 serios real VJs in Venezuela beside me and other 10 people that eventually do the jusb for a nught and that is it but I do not know any body that I would say "Oh my God, this guy rocks".

Well there was one time when I came in to a masive party and I saw an extraordinary clip on the screens, I was really impressed but it was the only clip during the entire night. So, I'm sorry I'm not that helpfull.:rolleyes:

apu

30th April 2003, 03:40 AM

Hey Edible

I agree with you. We are starved in NZ for what I would call star quality VJ on a regular basis.

Did you get to K&D and see Fritze Fisk??? He was pretty wild. Right up there in my list of fav VJ.

Kraftwerk were also wicked but do they have a VJ or do they all combine to make the graphics somehow. Tough one.

So for fav NZ VJ

1 Mike from Pitch Black
2 Edible Plastyc
3 VJ APU :D
4 VJ Finny

International

1 Kraftwerk
2 Fritz Fiske
3 Underworld

When/where are you playing next??

Next gig for me is June20. A while away. Will post you the details offline.

edibleplastyc

30th April 2003, 05:51 AM

yeah apu.. mike is certainly up there, pitch black do visuals that match the audio.. pretty wicked tho..

my next gig would be at fabric on the 5th of june i think, it comes down to the use of a projector tho...

i wanna bum rush other parties whiliist in the the region of london and amsterdam, but thats if any vj up too battling me i spose..

also

jim the eagle is one of my fav's seeing as though we do battle each other quite a bit.. our work seems to compliment each other.. straight video (jim the eagle) vs hyper quick live flash (not just vector) programming (edibleplastyc)..

its good

Anyone

30th April 2003, 08:22 AM

what's the name of the VJ Massive Attack are using?
he's pretty good.
And the VJs DJ Shadow is using as well...

Rovastar

30th April 2003, 01:57 PM

Yeah NE1 heard good things about those too but notice how they are too scared to post here on VJF. :D :D ;)

BUt notice those VJ maybe can onlyt do it to their acts tracks. And they no doubt have custom material for those acts also (music video footage etc) so teh quailty is expected to be decent.

Like a rehersal for a play many times over. I wonder how they would function under a freeform live event without there custom band that they know all teh tracks off.

disassembler

30th April 2003, 02:30 PM

GOod point Rova. Your work BETTEr be sick if you basically do the same show over and over and oever oernv d andna dnandn.,..............

Anyone

1st May 2003, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by Rovastar
Yeah NE1 heard good things about those too but notice how they are too scared to post here on VJF. :D :D ;)

I guess they're too busy to be waisting time like us...

Originally posted by Rovastar

Like a rehersal for a play many times over. I wonder how they would function under a freeform live event without there custom band that they know all teh tracks off.

if you want to specialise in one thing, that's fine.
but I'm not going to name all the things you're bad at,
that would take me too much time...(waste again?)
just naming the one good thing you're good at
is good enough for me.

Ne1

PS coming along to Vectors on sunday?

michaelheap

1st May 2003, 05:07 PM

Ashraf (ash) Nehru - www.autopilot.co.uk or www.frankietherobot.com/

is the name of the massive attack VJ,

2bit are doing good things and i always like jamming with them, AVDV are good,

Johnny Dekam, is pretty great when he gets his vinyl out to scrach with.

Surgeons are great.

hexstatic are getting a little tired.

michaelheap

1st May 2003, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by Rovastar
Yeah NE1 heard good things about those too but notice how they are too scared to post here on VJF. :D :D ;)

BUt notice those VJ maybe can onlyt do it to their acts tracks. And they no doubt have custom material for those acts also (music video footage etc) so teh quailty is expected to be decent.

Like a rehersal for a play many times over. I wonder how they would function under a freeform live event without there custom band that they know all teh tracks off.

Ash doesnt conciderhimself a vj, he just writes their code, ive argued with him on numerous occasions, but he refuses to concider himself a vj

Anyone

1st May 2003, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by michaelheap
Ashraf (ash) Nehru - www.autopilot.co.uk or www.frankietherobot.com/

You sure?

I spoke to him when I went to see the M.A. concert,
the card he gave me said:

Matt Clarke / Founding partner of United Visual Artists

Ne1

vjpixylight

2nd May 2003, 12:12 AM

I have met Ash, (great guy) and seen his act at VideA 2001, and while i would say he is a programing genius, he's not really a VJ per se. (IMHO) Unfortunately he only works his dancing robots and doesn't make, or mix regular video...Dancing robots can only go so far...
I'm sorry, but lets keep this about mixing visualz, not about programing software..:rolleyes:

eniac

2nd May 2003, 02:52 AM

Why not do a king-of-the-hill VJ Ego thread where we start with a clip from some VJ (anyone), then that VJ is 'king' until someone posts a clip that beats the previous contender's clip. (via a vote)

Personally, I am my own favorite VJ :D
Masterdamus is my next favorite :)

For proof, it so happens that I posted 3 New VJ Mixes yesterday on my XYNth Video page (my definition of VJ Mix is live, no post, no prep):

http://www.xynth.net/html/xynth_divx_avis.html

The 1st clip (by far the best) is my submission to the Diesel-U-Music competition UK. It's great I highly recommend watching the whole clip... twice! I'm still waiting to run accross a VJ with any other tool who can match this level of performance (eg, reaction-time & framerate) or synchronicity.

(BTW - I never heard the audio track, nor was familiar with the songs when I made the 1st clip. Not only that, it was done in 1 take, pulled free-range style, right outa da ass :alien: )

I'm unleashing this groundbreaking tool to the world this summer - Not only that, but also a 100% feature complete, non-time-limited public demo will be released simultaneously. Cocky AND generous. :rolleyes:

So when I release my baby to you all, you'd better treat her right damn you!

Now, before you write me off as some arrogant asshole (like J.E. who actually is one), keep in mind I've worked 3 long years (in my free time, after work) designing, coding, creating artwork, and performing - for nothing in return. I do it because I'm passionate and geeky, but it is also a gift to YOU, the VJ community. My slogan is:

"Power to the Peep-Hole!" |tm|

Now who's the #1 VJ? Huh? :nod:

Eniac
in LA :alien:

vjpixylight

2nd May 2003, 03:06 AM

did you see masterdemus at the boom festival last year?

eniac

2nd May 2003, 03:23 AM

No, I have yet to see him live, but the video clips on his site grabbed my attention immediately because his style is the closest thing I've found to what I envision a VJ set should feel like.....

it's a look and feel that comes from 'playing' an intrument instead of 'steering' it or mousing around and moving sliders... we want to frickin' PLAY visuals, not spend hours burried in animation track editors! I'm not out to make a multi-track animation package and Masterdamus appreciates that...

I only want to please my Masterdamus :P

;)

eni

disassembler

2nd May 2003, 06:17 AM

Personally, I am my own favorite VJ :D

And still are.

I've worked 3 long years (in my free time, after work) designing, coding, creating artwork, and performing - for nothing in return.

Thanks for making VJing not worth anything $$$.

So funny. When you make the outrageous claim that

QUOTE enaic (my definition of VJ Mix is live, no post, no prep):

Sure buddy. You use loops that means you prep. Unless your telling us your software samples everything realtime and creates video animations of girls dancing from computer code. YOu prep. Everyone has to prep.

Your right that your first mix is your best piece. Something tells me you actually made almost all the loops in that one. Cool speaker loops. Where as mix2 and three are pretty much mix1 with Bjork, 2001, and played out loop server vids mixed in.

You've definitely got the beat matching thing down and the only thing thats needed now is more original content. I'd say your halfway there. Now spend 3 years making better source visuals.

Wouldn't mind seeing a little more chromo/luminance keying. Especially with the 3d vector sh@t as a layer.

eniac

2nd May 2003, 10:21 AM

Sorry you misunderstood what I meant, let me clarify:

I didn't say I work for free. My last decent show paid $1400 for 4 hours. I'm flying out to London on Sunday for a month for VJ gigs (2 shows + music video + other). Better come up with a new theory. My point was I'm creating the software for public release, with no financial backing for software development. I walked into a VJ market place that paid nothing and turned that around for myself - and I write my software, and hunt down cool looking clips when I have time (which is never), and make cheesey textures using wingding fonts, and maintain a website, and... dude, clean your glasses.

All those (yes, custom) AVIs used in the 1st clip was from my one and only custom AVI filming session - done at a club I did 2 weeks ago. I spent a whopping 45 minutes when i got home sloppily capturing 60, 1 to 20 sec. clips from a 30 minute camcorder reel a buddy of mine took that night. Yet you think it looks like 1.5 years of VJ school of cred. I'd like to see how well you can write a graphics engine in C++... eh, give yourself about 6 years and you'll be 1/2 way there bud.

BTW, I went to your website and took a look at what 'there' looks like. BTW, it was impossible to read using internet explorer

http://www.dis-assembly.com/video.html

Really compelling stuff there bud. I now have my own theory as to why you arent getting paid. (ouch)

I won't go into the 'prep/post' issue. You'll get what I'm talking about as soon as I release the demo.

Man this scene is way too full of bitter people like you, it rubs off man, if you can't tell.

-eni

elbows

2nd May 2003, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by eniac
[B]Why not do a king-of-the-hill VJ Ego thread where we start with a clip from some VJ (anyone), then that VJ is 'king' until someone posts a clip that beats the previous contender's clip. (via a vote)

(my definition of VJ Mix is live, no post, no prep)

Therein is a problem with your idea. We had a lot of arguments here trying to even decide what a VJ is, so I think it would be very hard for a vote to actually reflect any kind of worthiness of a clip to make the VJ king.

I mean theres something I like about the idea, but in other ways it could be a recipie for disaster, I dunno. Still I am in favour of anything that would encourage people to post more video, as a VJ community all the big words tire me sometimes and I long to be able to sooth my eyes with more content and get a better idea what everyones work is about.

Ive always been most intot he idea of a visual instrument such as you describe, but I think theres room for pre-prepared stuff there too, for me anyhows. Much like someone who plays a synth will spend a while working out certain nice settings beforehand, I would want to spend some heavy prep getting my visual instrument setup in a number of patches ready to be played like an instrument live.

As I cant program I cant follow your path, but can only rely on the tools made by others, so I eagerly await XYnth. Id be the first to appreciate your time and skills etc, but to be quite honest doing something brilliant still doesnt make you immune to being seen as arrogant. I simply think that theres something within our ego's that reacts to seeing someone elses ego having a good time, especially in text where things always come across larger than if they had been spoken in a room where body language allows our minds to build a more balanced picture.

holly

2nd May 2003, 05:22 PM

Wow, that was well said Elbows. Great to have you de-fusing an obnoxious situation.

My favorite VJs are the ones who are trying to build the scene and bring everyone up. I'd nominate Pete Warden for giving away his plug-ins (and even more so for being considerate enough to make them work in multiple programs and platforms). I'd also nominate NE1 for organizing the VJ showings at ICA and actively inviting all to submit and participate. Radley Marx for doing the same in SF (and for trying to create a webstore where those who make content can sell to those who play content). And of course Dave of AudioVisualizers for creating the first community resource for VJs and especially the loopserver (give one and get ten! That is so amazing!). There are so many others.... All the creaters of freeware, the Japanese programers who make VJ apps accessable and fun to use, and everybody who takes their investment and talent and shares it for free!

Geez, I sound like a commie-love-hippie.... Respect for those who are getting monitary profit and big recognition but I don't have any use for showbiz attitudes and besides, what have you done for me lately?

disassembler

2nd May 2003, 06:34 PM

Eniac. I would never be so bold as to claim to be the king of VJ's.

I gave you a critique. You asked for it. I told you what I thought was good and what I thought could make you better. YOu make rediculous claims and I simply point out facts. I make no attack at your person nor any other aspect of your being. Just what you posted as king status visuals.

I appreciate everything your doing software and artist wise but your not the end all.

My website video page is made to look broken. Its a aesthetic, granted one you may not appreciate but none the less I enjoy nasty glitch aliased graphics. But I'm younger and maybe just haven't evolved to appreciate your style. I don't really dig trance like I did years ago. I like autechre, monolake, and aphex twin styles and my style reflects that. Therefore I will never become a superstar VJ.

I do make a modest amount of money for my services and no I'm not a C++ programmer. I program enough to make good graphics. I let someone else make the software and try to get good a using it.

I'll use your software and you'll sample my vids.

FEEDBACK MAKES YOU BETTER.

eniac

2nd May 2003, 08:07 PM

I appreciate the effort at 'feedback' but you might want to polish up in the tact department.

Why are you confusing my suggestion for king of the hill, with calling myself king? Its a type of competition, not a political manifesto. what exactly is wrong with competition anyway?

I just said I was my own favorite VJ, and then you didn't get the humor of my last statement in the original post. Arrogance is 99% in the eye of the beholder.

look, all I was trying to do was get you people curious about a program that right now has no equal - It just doesn't and I've tried nearly everything out there...

In order to make XYNth a coveted tool in your kit, I need to spurn interest in higher-level quality manipulation and syncronicity (I'm not being arrogant so don't even start!). I tried to do that by pointing out, indirectly, that you couldn't perform a VJ mix like that with any other single program out there today. By that I don't mean my choice of AVIs, I mean XYNth's demonstraqted ability to allow it's user to ad-lib 2d and 3d geometry rendered with textures and video streams, punched up and in tight sync with a live DJ set. I assumed being the hardcore VJ crowd you are, that you guys(and girls) would see this video and think to yourself, how would I do that with 'program X' - coming to the conclusion that you couldn't - my theory was then maybe I could start winning people over in time for it's upcoming release.

I thought a little cockiness might make people look twice... K, wrong approach for this crowd (sheesh!)

believe me, i'm aware that as soon as some really good AV artists get a hold of the XYNth v1 release in the next few months, I will no longer be able to say, "nyaa nyaa, look at my mix, let's see YOU do that!' (like I basically did earlier). Instead, I'll be saying 'you go girllll!!!' :P

And if anybody's in the UK, I'll be running the latest version of XYNth at the Southport Weekender May 9th - 11th, in the Main room. Come by and say hello, or how my shit sucks - either way I'd be happy to see you there!

eniac
in LA :alien:
Power to the peephole!

disassembler

3rd May 2003, 12:23 AM

Sweet! Always looking for more software. That goes without saying.

Coming to AVIT US. Would love to be converted to something nicer than VDMX3.

Does your software understand bones and bipeds?
Does your software have the ability to apply space warps to the models, such as bombs?
Can you load a model into a particle system so that the particles emitted are your models?

Guess I should just download it huh?
:nod:

eniac

3rd May 2003, 01:08 AM

The demo is no longer up (v0.492b was the last public release)

I wanted to put out one more public release, but I just have no time, the pressure's on!

V1 won't support skinned meshes (time constraint) V2 will fully support biped animation, animation blending, etc. V1 WILL support rotation/transform/scale animations on complex heirarchical meshes with materials & submaterials.

The particle system is running in a seprate build. I can't give you any other details yet, other than it's different ;)

A single environment loaded can give you access to 2028 hotkey 'combos' plus 300 overlay triggers (2D or 3D). The combos can use any 3d scene from up to 512 scene holders (up to 32 layers/objects per slot) and 'combo' it with as many as 30 triggered 2D layers simultaneously... there's a lot more... email me direct, i'm feeling soft.... ask me about beta testing....

more later, gotta get back to work :/

scarab

5th May 2003, 10:17 AM

my favorite vj is the girl doing the visuals for TOOL:
couldn't figure out the name as yet, but here are some videos of concerts:
http://www.deadohiosky.net/video.html

more:

ana-logic (italy)
otolab (italy)
4youreye.at (austria)
vidok (austria)

krezrock

5th May 2003, 08:38 PM

Camilla. Her husband plays the guitar.

But I believe her title is: Video Director.

And their most recent tour had a different VD. (Breck). Using a GrandMA!

kommy

5th May 2003, 09:08 PM

maynard's grandma?

krezrock

5th May 2003, 10:09 PM

muauauuahahhahahaha

a GrandMA lighting console.:D

scarab

6th May 2003, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by krezrock
Camilla. Her husband plays the guitar.

But I believe her title is: Video Director.

And their most recent tour had a different VD. (Breck). Using a GrandMA!

ahhh now things clear up. if she is the wife of adam jones, that means they will create the footage together. jones was special effects artist once and director of most the tool-videos.

thanks for helping me out