Audio video syncing

[aarondulla]

hey guys ive a little question for ye,ive started to try and develop my skills in the areas of like audio-video syncing and the likes ie (d-fuse) (light surgeons)
(8-egg)(addictive tv) so like any ideas on what the best way to start,like is it all midi related,or is it the certain software to get to grips with ?

Ps just finished thesis on (vj culture and the synaesthetic expierence) so if ye would like a read just email me aarondulla@gmail.com

[Donnie Darko]

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would something like this be helpful in a visual sense ?

http://home.netspeed.com.au/aistorm/Images/syncV2.jpg

the mungo sync (http://home.netspeed.com.au/aistorm/sync2.html) ( as used by the chemical brothers (http://www.inthemix.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=197147) )
or is this just an audio/audio sync device ?
( can you tell im still learning here? )

( p.s. i see morph and noinput have crosspoint controllers (http://home.netspeed.com.au/aistorm/misc.html) made by him also, quick hijack n00b question here but what is that exactly? )

[Bokonon]

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would something like this be helpful in a visual sense ?

the mungo sync (http://home.netspeed.com.au/aistorm/sync2.html) ( as used by the chemical brothers (http://www.inthemix.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=197147) )
or is this just an audio/audio sync device ?
( can you tell im still learning here?)

It's not an audio anything, its for midi.

But Maybe - it allows two synced devices to be disconnected from each other (i.e. the master stopped and not stop the slave) so that you can fill the gap whilst you load a new set in live by doing a drum machine solo.

If you need to do this with your visuals then yes it could be useful - however the majority of people don't run multiple synced sequencers to do their visuals, so possibly not.

[Mixed Ape]

http://vjforums.com/showthread.php?t=22232
similar topic here

VJ kung fu's latest podcast shows how to do it with the Lucifer VST. I cant find an OS x version anywhere though (Anyone care to help?)

Personally I've been creating a midi track to accompany my loops and MP3s in Live. I'm outputting the MIDI to Isadora to trigger clips and events.

It's a bit arse backwards but its working well so far. I'm now going to try triggering clips in this way in Isadora from Live while routing the audio from Isadora back to Live. Not sure how synced it'll be but hopefully I can tweak it. I'll post a video once i get it up and running.

Not until Ableton send me my serial though, I've got a massive live set thats been sat here since Thursday with no way to save it in the demo and I'm worried my MacBook is going to die if I continue to pummel it running Isadora & Live side by side.

[amsonx]

http://vjforums.com/showthread.php?t=22232
similar topic here

VJ kung fu's latest podcast shows how to do it with the Lucifer VST. I cant find an OS x version anywhere though (Anyone care to help?)



me too i cant find Lucifer for OSX...

and regard the similar topic : me too use plogue Bidule for produce midi message from his audio analisys function and so i can send it to VDMX.
On the Bidule forum you can read some related post

http://www.plogue.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3034


(sorry for my baaad english)

[Mixed Ape]

The demo of lucifer from the devine machine page doesn't work
http://www.devine-machine.com/download.html

I've also read somewhere that its been discontinued :confused:

[skulpture]

I got excited about lucifer as well. Could'nt find anywhere to download it :-(

Mixed Ape - I guess you wanted lucifer to work with isadora like I did!

[Mixed Ape]

I did. I'm going to send some mail on monday, see if I can at least get a demo.

VJ kung fu using discontinued software for a how-to video :confused:

[skulpture]

hmmm seems a bit strange doesn't it. It looks to well made to be dropped if you know what I mean? The GUI and the features looked more than just an experiment to then be forgotten about.

Let us know what the response is.

[zippy666]

This may help

http://livepa.blogspot.com/2007/02/liveslice-live-looping-vst-plugin.html

[Mixed Ape]

This may help

http://livepa.blogspot.com/2007/02/liveslice-live-looping-vst-plugin.html

I got all excited, until i got to the bottom of the page. Windows no Os X

[amsonx]

This may help

http://livepa.blogspot.com/2007/02/liveslice-live-looping-vst-plugin.html

uhmm only for windows.. alternative for macosx ?

Bidule ? some Live VST effects ? any suggestions...?

thanks

[zippy666]

one for macs (and windows)

http://www.zzounds.com/item--FXPGURU


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Can load audio loops (WAV/AIFF/REX), MIDI loops, single-hits, complete kits, pattern banks..

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Flexible groove/shuffle control for patterns - take the groove of one MIDI file and apply it in real-time to another

Comprehensive Pad Editor offering individual control of the following for each pad:
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System Requirements
iLok compatible

800 MHz Pentium III or Athlon cpu (for Windows platform)

733 MHz G4 cpu (for Mac OS X platform)

384MB RAM (512MB recommended)

DVD-ROM, DVD-R or DVD-RW drive (for installation)

Windows 2000 or XP, or Mac OS X 10.3 "Panther" or 10.4 "Tiger".

500MB free hard disk space

[zippy666]

another useful site :

http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php

[Mixed Ape]

Lucifer 2.2 Beta Demo

http://www.xferrecords.com/lucifer/beta/Lucifer22_demo_beta_OSX.zip

Enjoy, cheers steve if you read it

[gavspav]

I've just made a tutorial of how to Sync live to isadora using a Pluggo Plug in.

Its basically the same principle as Momo's tutorial but uses free software.

Also you can use the Live Interface so it is more flexible. You can use follow actions, change loop lengths in realtime, even create a slicer.

On the other hand I've never used Lucifer - bet there's some stuff you can do with that which is unique too.

Anyway please tell me if I've made any glaringly obvious errors:

http://www.digitalfunfair.co.uk/avsync.htm

Best

Gav

[Mixed Ape]

I've just made a tutorial of how to Sync live to isadora using a Pluggo Plug in.


That was cool.

"Very talented young up and coming artist"

Who is she? Where's she from? Is it just me or is she Britney Spears Russian Cousin?

GloveOSC Gav uses has no Tiger love, only Leopard and Windows.

[la0la0la]

thats wicked thanks very much!