possible vj-soft platform on linux?

[hamageddon]

ok, fellows
if u got some time to kill, dig this

http://www.gstreamer.net/docs/faq.php

q2me: since now incorpating effectv plugins can this be
a possible free vj-soft platform on linux?

opinons?

[krezrock]

sounds like a good platform to me :) plus it runs on ps2!!

[hamageddon]

hm the basic thing missing seems to be an app that combines
multiple videostreams by mixing/ blending/keying etc...

if efx are handled in a chain, a possible app could be a cross
between the modularity of vjo and the interface of svd-1
(yep still waiting 4 dat 1 to return ;)), but first even a basic interface should do, what was that interface thing called
huo, TCL something?

but that would be only videostreaming/processing, how would
we be able to get the pd/gem stuff into it?

ah, midi has to be implemented to, but doesnt seem to be a problem according to the developers....

and considered that it might run on a PS2....

could rock seriously

[HuoLong]

sorry, codin on linux is WAY over my head... (cant even get that video4linux running...)

but

TCL/TK would be no problem to use as GUI (i think)

>how would we be able to get the pd/gem stuff into it?
by codin :)

it seems gem is coded with c++ and that gstreamer uses c...
(dunno how easy 2 convert)

[arpflush]

i've just started writing some plugins for spiralsynthmodular (an open-source modular synth) which handle images/movies in the same method as audio. Its called eyemush and you can get a peek here:http://www.pawfal.org/topic.php?topic=326&forum=1&start=0

i'm using it at the moment to play gigs in a very hacked-together format but the finished (in a ever-developing sense of course :)) plugins should be easy to connect together to get some cool effects.

i'll post again when theres something to download -
It'll all be GPL'd open-source code and will probably only ever be available for linux as thats all i can program for. i'm interested to know what people think and how many vj's are interest in the linux platform etc.

[infopocalypse]

After I've written HeyVJ for Mac I'll be rewriting it to run on Linux as well. For more info on HeyVJ (which isnt yet out) just seach around for posts here or on eyecandy.

[hamageddon]

what i was thinking of was more like a host application based on a common visual engine, similiar to the plugin style on audio apps
(DirectX, VST), where u can dock ur favourite plugins
in layers and chains - and i don't wanna see any vjockey references here :) - a customizeable interface.
(4 me svd-1 flavour pls ) instead of creating just another standalone app, i already got too much of them

gstream seems 2 be a possible engine on linux,
and that's why i posted it. any takers? coders?

but, aw, maybe somebody should hack quicktime for pd
so we could kick N.N.'s butt.... seriously this time ;)
on windoze and linux too

[infopocalypse]

like what HeyVJ is... again check the threads.

James

[hamageddon]

i can't find anything useful bout your app by searching on the board, maybe u can be a bit more specfic why ur app should fulfill my wildest dreams?

[infopocalypse]

1. Skin based GUI (make it look like anything you want, including an existing app or video mixer).

2. Capture support (including firewire)

3. Console

4. Macros

5. At present, as many filters as premiere all realtime, all chained.

6. 2nd Monitor support

7. MIDI keying.

Realtime recursive motion. Realtime radial blur.


Compete filter list done insofar below:

Arbitrary Zoom: Zoom in on any section of an image up to 256x.
Scale: Scale the image to any rectangular shape.
Rotate: Rotate the image to any degree.
HSync: Make an image look like it is out of sync by cropping one end of it and placing it on the other, optional syncbar area.
VSync: see HSync
Interpolate: Draw a filter only once every X frames
Multiple interpolate: Draw one source for X frames, another source for Y frames
BW Force: Force an image to black and white, with 256 degrees of force (0 is a null force, 256 an inverted force)
Threshold: Force an image to a threshold at any one of 256 degrees of luminance.
Complex Theshold: Force red, green, and blue to a threshold at 256 degrees of color each 16777216 total options.
Dark tint: darkly tint an image with 256 red,green, and blue levels: 16777216 total options.
Light tint: see Dark Tint
Raw invert: Invert an image?s colors and black and white (256 levels)
Complex Invert: invert an images red, green, and blue (256 levels per, 16777216 total)
Color Add: add levels of a color to an image, up to 256 units red, green, and blue.
Wrapped Color Add: see Color Add
Color Subtract: see Color Add
Wrapped Color Subtract: see color add
Radial Blur: Force an image to rotate X total degrees inward copying itself Y times and zooming in Z amount.
Recursive Motion: Echo video X times with Y frames for an echo to be on and Z frames between echos.
Quad Mirror: Copy any of four quadrants of an image and mirror it into the other four quadrants.
Horizontal Mirror: Copy either left to right or right to left, from either side with the mirror drawn upon the edge of the image or the side of the image.
Vertical Mirror: see Horizontal Mirror.
Crop: Crop any image area.
Multiple Picture in Picture: tile an image X panes horizontally and Y panes vertically.
Tile: tile two images along the same pattern as multiple picture in picture, staggering inputs.
HSqueeze: Squeeze input one and input two into separate sides along line L
VSqueeze: see HSqueeze
HWipe: Wipe input one over input two (or under) along line L
VWipe: see HWipe.
Tint Red
Tint Green
Tint Blue
Tunnel (10 styles, arbitrary endx/endy)
ZedRotateHorizontal. Rotate along an imaginary line in a 3d dimension.
ZedRotateVertical: Rotate along an imaginary line in the 3rd dimension.

Possible any parrallelogramic skew, rotate, and resize in realtime.


I'm open to filter suggestions. A linux port will be easier to write as none of the assembly has to change. A Mac port will come first, however.

James

[infopocalypse]

Oh yeah... a lot of those are metafilters, meaning we can make more out of them. I also forgot to mention the VideoShake. We're developing anywhere between one and five filters a day now.

James

[MoRpH]

Originally posted by infopocalypse
HSync: Make an image look like it is out of sync by cropping one end of it and placing it on the other, optional syncbar area.
VSync: see HSync

Make this audio responsive and you've just emulated the rebelle unit......... and i'm sure with all the colour functionality you have in it you'll have that aspect covered aswell.

Sounds awesome james looking foward to release mate :)

[LEVLHED]

.....yeah..........right........

[hamageddon]

great, another chapter in rebelle wars. :sad:

[MoRpH]

Gawd it was a joke you sooks...... :rolleyes:

And now back to the show......

[MoRpH]

Oh yeah and BTW I think its great that James is putting in stuff to emulate other software and hardware... I'm personally supplying him with full FX lists for the CVI and CVI producer so he can try to fully emulate them..... so LEV this is prolly (unfortunately) the closest you will get to a real CVI when its done so stop your ....yeah .... rights..... and try a little constructive input.

[yoy]

elektronika used it's own GUI (high portable feature), and next year we'll port it on linux.

elektronika it's also based on a large scale plugins architecture,
that's it's free to all to add effects modules on it.

plur

[MoRpH]

Yeah I tried it and couldn't get it to do jack, the interface is absolutely terrible to try to use with a mouse, nothing is labled and basically its prolly one of the most confusing softwares I have had the displeasure of encountering.

[hamageddon]

seems that i didn't made my point clear:

i am looking for a free hostapplication
based on a common visual engine (gstream,
or dx/qt 4 wintel/mac) not an app with
customizeable gui and a sdk 4 own fx.

[apoll001]

hIDEHO
I found a possible linux-VJ-soft but i don?t know if it?s useful (i don?t have any linux), perhaps someone could check it out. http://freej.dyne.org/
ok seeya

[Nema]

as the major developer of visualJockey, i also hat to say that linux would be a wonderful platform for VJ-software. anyways, the frontend of visualJockey has been implemented very windows-specific to hopefully find some users from the "most used" OS... if visualJockey will generate enough money one day, we will maybe use the income to port it to linux. but "making money out of VJ-software" seems to be still a far-away dream... :-(

[krokodril]

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i'm interested to know what people think and how many vj's are interest in the linux platform etc.


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[tigital]

people might wanna check out Vee-Jay:

http://veejay.sourceforge.net/

I don't develop it, but have been inspired by some of the YUV code effects...

[eXhale]

Originally posted by tigital
people might wanna check out Vee-Jay:

http://veejay.sourceforge.net/

I don't develop it, but have been inspired by some of the YUV code effects...

Woah lots of very interesting FX :) Seems it's all keyboard based but it could be interesting to have it a second older computer... Hmm...

[aemkei]

hey, we use gstreamer now to make a scaleable huge thing out of it. check this article:

http://www.vjforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=2723

_aemkei