New UK Licencing Laws

[PilotX]

I've just been told about the UK licencing laws that are being introduced - those in the UK will prob. know that we will finally get 24hr drinking possibilities, but they are also changing how public performance licencing works.

I'm not sure how much it's actually going to affect us, I'm going to look through the bill later this week, but according to this site:

http://www.geocities.com/actionformusic/moreinfo.html
and this one:
http://www.filk.co.uk/pel.html

We will have to ensure that the venue has a licence. Apparently many pubs will no longer meet requirements and be unable to afford these or the new licence.
Not sure how many people do visuals in country pubs?

There is this quote from the action for music site:
'Any landlord who permits entertainment to occur on his property without a license, paid or spontaneous, will be liable to a fine of up to ?20,000. "Entertainment" includes anything which is apparently enjoyed by an audience.'

Which I assume is from the bill, so this will apply to us. The person who told me thought that the individual performer also had to get a licence, which is probably true for buskers and the like, but I don't know exactly how it applies.
Basically wondering if anyone has more info on this before I try to dig into the bill)

'Anything which is apparently enjoyed by the audience'. Miserable fuckers don't want us to have ANY fun (unless it's correctly licenced, and deemed wholesome of course).

Tom
syzygy visuals

[sleepytom]

yes its totaly shit...

they really do want every event where there is any entertainment to be licenced - no exceptions - if you want a clown at your kids birthday party you need an enertainments licence - if you want a party at all you need an entertainments licence - no djs - no duos - no bands - no visuals - no fun - doesn't matter who you are, how old you are, if theres more than one of you and your having fun then your breaking the law

[robotfunk]

you could always claim you were bored stiff

[InsideUsAll]

another example of our wonderful UK governments policy on music in public places, and anything that involves people having fun.

apparently a church is going to need an entertainments licence for any bell ringers or organists. its going to go to this petty ridiculous level.

we did a great party in a warehouse in london on saturday night, and this latest bill was a frequent topic of conversation I had with people. One things for sure, this bill won't discourage the underground party scene it is being introduced to quash, it will just aggrevate it further, and cause more friction.

and all because we are having fun, outside of the grasps of fascism & normality

[SilentEclipse]

That bill sounds f*'!#ed up, when did we ever ask our government to put a price on having fun!!!

I can see a few people becoming quite vocal about this, the government should work for us, not against us, otherwise they are not doing their job!!!

[LEVLHED]

wow, sounds like UK has caught up with (maybe even passed?)the US in the passing of rediculous "anti-rave" laws that harm more people than help...

[unjulation]

check out



for the last one they banged on us

forwarnd, forarmd, this the alows us to make informed choises

could do with finding a link to the exact enviromental laws regarding raves within citys, trespas/squating etc

[spaceman]

'Any landlord who permits entertainment to occur on his property without a license, paid or spontaneous, will be liable to a fine of up to ?20,000. "Entertainment" includes anything which is apparently enjoyed by an audience.'

They should really stop serving drinks and food too, Take away any art work from the walls, paint the whole place grey and only have uncomfortable chairs, no one should also be able to have any conversation.......

[michaelheap]

oh beleive me, we had rediculous anti rave laws even before the us had even drempt of them,

everyone in the UK scene will rember the infamous CRIMINAL JUSTICE BILL, the precice nature of this law was to stop groups of people gathering together listening to and i quote 'repetitive beat music' i cant rember the numbers, but its illegal to have i belive the number is less than 10 people gathered in a public place to listen to dance music.

its messed up

[wellREDman]

i have worked for the guy who wasd the very first person ti be cautioned under the CJA

[Rovastar]

Originally posted by robotfunk
you could always claim you were bored stiff

Some Vj's could easy claim this and never get put up in court. :)

[PilotX]

Originally posted by michaelheap
i cant rember the numbers, but its illegal to have i belive the number is less than 10 people gathered in a public place to listen to dance music.


I'm pretty sure its 6. 7 people and you need a licence/permission. It applies to any gatherings, not just ones with repetiitve beats, hence when my 6th form teachers went on strike, they could not have a picketline with more than 6 people. It also means that if you have a family of 5, and grandparents come round for tea, you need a licence, or you are in breach of the criminal justice act.

Tom

[sleepytom]

umm this isn't quite true

you can read the whole 1994 criminal justic and publuic order act here http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1994/Ukpga_19940033_en_1.htm but i wouldn't bother as its well boring...

the new entertainment bill can be read in full here http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200203/ldbills/001/03001.i-viii.html