View Full Version : Where do we think visuals are going
evomedia
11th May 2006, 10:34 AM
thought I'd open a new topic, rather than current forms of visuals, wanted to know peoples thought of what lies ahead in the visual world.
My personal feeling is that events and staging companies would do well to start employing some live video performers, after all events companies have the budget, the content creators and the clients. I already am seeing more and more crossover, after all the VJ is essentially a new breed in an existing market.
Most events companies do everything we do but trigger preselected content from the performers or based on triggers, but don't touch the doing the show live. I know that most of there clients are not interested in VJ ego's.
Apart from that I'd like to hear other aspects that will change
USE
11th May 2006, 12:55 PM
a lot more djs and bands are having dedicated vjs to work and tour with, creating proper audio visual content. i think that the gorrillaz are the closest to this for my money, altho if they were a real band instead of a load of session musians directed by two producers then id be even more impressed. also id like to see at least, more audio stuff being triggered by vjs, and possibly more video triggered by djs/bands. i spose its a similar point to teh first one, but if vjs were a bit more persuasive in getting their a/v clips integrated in the set, then the possibilities open themselves up.
appart from that, i see all vjs growing 1000ft tall, and crushing buildings and trees in godzilla-style carnage with their eye-mounted lazers. bound to happen, just a matter of time...
evomedia
11th May 2006, 01:46 PM
i see all vjs growing 1000ft tall, and crushing buildings and trees in godzilla-style carnage with their eye-mounted lazers
Thank god for that I though I was getting taller for no reason
deepvisual
11th May 2006, 02:16 PM
In the future I think more VJs will dress as elvis and skydive out of planes
http://www.deepvisual.com/TeamPhoto.jpg
vjpixylight
11th May 2006, 09:51 PM
Visuals, that is just the video side of things without the audio, will become more a part of content creation for those that evo mentions, the event organizers and stage choreographers.
I also see theater taking up the visual cause with more and more virtual visual sets. instead of key grips we soon may see visaul grips as a part of many stage productions.
many2
12th May 2006, 11:14 AM
I also see a lot of potential for VJs in the theater and show staging business. There is a strong need for VJ's skills when you create a show. Most directors and creators are used to work with the limits of the non-realtime world : as a VJ you can react quickly to any suggestion or idea. The other big advantage is that most VJs are generalists : they know how to rig a projector, they know about connectors and cables, they know about software and codecs, hardware and protocols, they know how to create custom content on limited time and budget, they have artistic flair and creative skills, they know how to shoot content with a camera, they know about lighting, they know about 2d and 3d graphics, about formats, computers, mixers, they know about all things video ! Sure, each has his specialities, but most VJs will be able all by themselves to answer questions which some years ago were answered by multiple persons. The job is still quite different from a VJ gig though - like I often say in the VJ world you will get a few days of preparation for your performance, while in the staging world you are talking about weeks, often months and sometimes years of preparation.
Video is also getting recognised as a very effective tool for the staging process : it can look very good, it's very flexible and you can actually find people with the skills to push the limits of the medium.
synoptics
17th May 2006, 11:30 AM
I haven't been involved in this scene for too long (3 years), but the main thing I feel holding it back is the sense of value that promoters put on the visuals for their events here in the UK.
Progression in a scene like this is dependent on alot of factors - we're not self contained like DJs - whereas a promoter would never book his DJs after the VJs, alot of the time it comes down to wether they can afford it after they've paid headliners, and wether they feel it'll be worth another chunk of their profit for including something that 10 years ago nobody would've considered.
I think it'll need a new wave of promoters and people behind the scene (I'd put people like coldcut, all star crew, yoda's DVJ set etc as the first wave that started to bring the A/V experience to the masses - not forgetting about festivals, but I'd say thats a seperate matter.) who'll put more value on the creativity, individuality and time that we put into the work. At the same time the crowds at the clubs will have to start noticing and expecting visuals at major nights across the country - not just in London and Brighton - for the promoters to start realising it as a vital addition to the clubbing experience.
As far as the technology and methods behind VJing and A/V performance go, things will only get more advanced and more complicated, in ways that right now you cant even imagine.
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