trans-global time collaboration

[LEVLHED]

I had this quirky idea for a global VJ collaboration...er..more of a concept really...I imagined everybody going out with their video cameras at the exact same time and filming *whatever* for a few moments and putting it all together in some sort of short study of global synchronicity...now that I'm typing it, it seems goofy...but I'm known for goofy ideas...

[KillingFrenzy]

Seems to me it would work like this:
Everybody synchronizes a watch or clock with the global atomic clock.

We all run out with our camcorder to wherever and get the watch in the camera every once in a while to point out the synchronicity.
Sync up the footage, and divide the screen artistically to create an interesting collage.

Now, a factor of scale comes in. It would be fun to take this concept and expand it to a database model.
Lets say you capture footage in one minute snippets at a fairly low resolution and framerate. Store each clip in a database with the time,place.
Create a webserver that displays a random sample of clips at the time and switch on every minute. The clips you see would have occured somewhere at the same time of day as when you are watching them

Have people contribute clips to add to the database

Eventually, you'd get this interesting hodgepodge of clips and have different methods of organizing them. Time, place, local time of day or international.

For an immediate project, it would be fun to do the small scale version.

Shall we pick a day?
Howsabout 02/02/02 starting at 02:02:02?
we each film for 2 minutes and 02 seconds.

Of course, we need more than 2 people to do it.
The trick is we need to get out and have ourselves doing something interesting when the time comes.

Sounds like a fun challenge to me.

[vjpixylight]

Hey Lev, goofy or not this could be pretty cool..
I would say tho that instead of a video clip, why not just all take a sychronized digital picture? I am finding that pics are much more able to express art thru manipulating them into abstractness..anyhow these sychronized pics could be them shared across VJc much easier than video, and will get more VJ's involved..

so waht do you all think??

[hamageddon]

a Dogma Concept for VJing. interesting.
may i take the part of Lars von Trier? ;)
being earnest: yep, up 2 it.

[eXhale]

interesting :) imo a video would be more interesting than a still picture since we'd be able to do some video composition then. but nothing prevents to do both, apart from the fact i don't have any still camera :p what about the timezone? if we all film at 02:02:02 in our time it won't be synchronized.

[InsideUsAll]

great idea.

I'm up for it 02.02.02 is a good time to do it too, as its at the weekend for everyone. timezone wise i'd suggest GMT its the centre of the scale.

Dave

[PilotX]

Yeh, its an interesting idea. In the end the particular date/time/zone is relatively arbritrary, although the weekend does make things easier. so I say just go with the date, time and zone suggested.

Tom

[LEVLHED]

cool! heh, guess there was more to this idea than I thought :)
As for time zone stuff, yeah eX, thats what I was talking about...not everyone filming at the same time of day, but actually the same time. That way some people will be filming during the day and some during the night, somone might be at work, someone might be at a club, etc..I realize this is going to make it a bit more difficult to pull off...but I think its key. KF, I hadn't considered putting all the clips on the screen at once in sync (ala movie "Time Code"). I was thinking of linear sequencing, putting them one after the other....I like the all-at-once idea if it can be done well.
So, in keeping with my idea of globabl synchronicity, we need to decide a time that can work. Also, I think duration can be a bit shorter in the interest of collaboration via the internet (lets keep things as hi-rez as possible) maybe for a first try we do something like 2 seconds? maybe thats too short...

more suggestions?

[InsideUsAll]

2 seconds is tight, what about 22?

[bassy]

First of all damn great idea.
If we make clips of it for about 22 sec or more or less, we'll come out when it's time for it, and if we put them somewhere on the internet, not necessarily on the same location (our provider provides you a little webspace for free or something) we alle put the URL's with the resutls here on the board, and everybody makes it's own thing with the sources. I haven't seen de movie timecode so I don't know what you mean but I was thinkin for a kinda picture in picture with x & y divided each in 6 , with all the footage on the exact place so I'll need 36 clips this is just an example of what i thought to do with it, I hope I made myself clear and hope it isn't the same levlhed was talking about. B
But again if everybody makes his own interpretation of the footage it will become all different things with the same sources.

secondly

Originally posted by KillingFrenzy
...Shall we pick a day?
Howsabout 02/02/02 starting at 02:02:02?
....

I'm I living in the wrong timecode???
in the country i'm living in, we seems to be a year ahead of you guys,..
;)

i asume you meant 02/02/03
maybe clip duration: 22sec:3 frames? (02=2)

bassy

[KillingFrenzy]

Hehe my dummy 02.02.02 Idea. Again, I need to stop posting on sleep deprivation.
Let's do an immediate experiment, and if it is halfway interesting we can aim at 03.03.03 for a better one.


Has anybody seen the "Lumiere" movie?

A bunch of directors were given an old fashioned Lumiere box, and they each filmed a very short film. Really cool results, especially the David Lynch one. Amazing how much you can do within a limitation

My proposal is that we all shoot 3 minutes of footage. We can start 1 minute before our target time, and overshoot by one minute. We then end up with a solid 1 minute of useable footage. This can be trimmed even shorter if it works out better that way. Better to overshoot and then be able to go small, rather than have to eliminate someones footage because it came up short by a frame.

We all shoot "simultaneously" meaning we all go off a single timezone, and shoot during the same exact moment in time. This will mean some poor bastard may have to wake up at 5 am in the morning to shoot theirs.

We can start with a simple collage of still frames, but I think it should be possible to author a DVD with video.
I have an image in my mind of a DVD that randomly selects clips and starts them all simultaneosly for that period. Then, it would "shuffle" a new set of clips and play that. Same would work for a website.

OOOO
OXXO
OXXO
OOOO

Would be cool to have one "highlighted" as a larger clip surrounded by smaller ones, then randomly switch to a new set on the next minute.


Irregardless,
I think the first step is to do the event and capture our footage.

Rules of the game:
Everyone should syncronize to a common time source
Everyone should shoot some "slop" before and after, to make sure it can be edited down to the exact time period.

No in-camera or external editing of the footage, just a plain capture that can be trimmed to the exact time period.

I can probably get some other people here in Seattle to do it, let's try and get as many pals with cameras to contribute. I'll try and come up with some people in strange places to add to the mix.

[LEVLHED]

May I suggest we start trying to figure out an appropriate time of day?
Those able/willing to contribute (see above posts for a working definition of what that implies) should do so by simply posting their time zone relative to midnight GMT...like "Its X:00 am/pm at midnight GMT at my locale...actually lets just do this at midnight GMT...for the sake of getting a trial run in...if a different time seems to work better next time then we'll do it differently.

I in no way believe this to be a competition, this is simply a collaborative effort to do a study in trans-global synchronicity...any one can take part by filming whatever they wish (within the bounds of your laws of course) at the ordained time and in good faith contribute the footage in a timely manner to a TBA server space...

tell us where you are if you want, or keep it a secret it doesn't matter:)
umm...
Dang this is interesting!

[LEVLHED]

or lets keep the quirky date/time voodoo theme going and make it at 02:03GMT on Feb 2nd...which would at that moment make the "date" kinda like 02.02.2003,02:03.
And I think it would be cool to have everyone keep the audio w/their clip...even if it sounds like total shit....

[fluchtpunkt]

Originally posted by LEVLHED
May I suggest we start trying to figure out an appropriate time of day?

...how about 03:03:'03:03:03 GMT for the second run?

[KillingFrenzy]

I agree, it isn't a competition. One of the things I like about the "Lumiere" film is that it is such a nice collaboration.
I hope we can all realize and expand upon LEVLHED's great idea.

I'll be as bold as to say that anything will be accepted, as long as it follows the guidelines:
That's why I was stressing some basic ground rules for the capture so we don't have to lose any contributions based on technical issues.

Here's my list for the shoot. It gets a bit meticulous, but this seems to be half experiment/half art project.

Guidelines for the Shoot:
1) Everyone should synchronize to a common time source
http://greenwichmeantime.com/
2) Set your watch/clock/etc. and try and get a shot of it in the "slop" if not in the segment proper.
3) Please shoot more than just the exact time. A minute before, and a minute after would be a good minimum. This will ensure you don't miss the magic moment, and gives enough room for editing and encoding later without coming up short.
4) Please record with Audio, and try and keep a full-frame aspect ratio as opposed to letterbox.
5) No in-camera or external editing of the footage, just a plain capture that can be trimmed to the exact time period.
6) All footage for this little experiment is going to be public domain, and not used for profit. Future experiments can be deliberated on. If it amounts to anything, footage for this one can be re-submitted later with a different legal context in place. Contributions will not be used outside of the context of the experiment by the collectors of the contributions. Rights of the originators are not limited in any way to their own footage.
I.e. LEV and whoever collect all the footage can't use it for anything out of the context of this experiment. Whoever shot it can still use their original however they want to.
7) A content consideration. For all intents and purposes this will end up being on "public display" in some form or another. "U2 in concert", or "Cumshot on my comatose boyfriend" are probably not something the camera subjects are going to be very happy about being posted on the web. Just be sure to explain to subjects what you're up to before you send us the footage.
8) Please shoot in the highest quality available to you, and consider your original "frozen". We'll probably just receive submissions as encodes, but please don't erase or tape over the original. This experiment is going to cost you x amount of tape.
9) Please sign and date a form agreeing to the guidelines, stating the time period shot, and have a "witness" verify it. If you're alone, we can let this one slide with just your signature... but if you are around people, having a buddy sign it would be great. Our historian friends would love us for that.

Guidelines for the Collectors:
1) All footage will be left intact as submitted. Submissions will only be rejected if there is a question of legality involved. Submissions in question for legal concerns will be discussed with the contributor. I.e. If the comatose boyfriend agrees to let the footage be used, it will be accepted.
2) Footage will only be used in the context of this experiment and not for external use. Footage will not be distributed beyond the collector without permission of the contributor.
3) All contributors will be credited for their submission.


Short term goals:
Production of a website with stills, or short video segments.

Long term goals:
Production of a Video Collage
Production of an installation style DVD.

[apu]

I am very keen to collaberate from New Zealand. We are GMT+12 or -12 I think. Anyway we are 12 hours ahead of UK.

Its Wednesday morning right now and Tuesday night in UK.

2/2/3 would work well for no matter what time I have to get up as I am going to be up anyway doing a gig on the 1st and it will roll over to the 2nd during the party. I will be up all day on Sun 2nd so no dramas.

This is a cool idea

[holly]

Nice contract KillF. I'll just print that up and sign it.

But..., when is the trial run? When is the real deal? All those numbers got me confused....

There was a Quicktime QTVR project that did this. And those photography books "A Day in the Life of...".

I think it's a great idea.

oh, um. NYC is (subtract 5hrs from GMT). so 2:03am is like 9:03pm...??? Can someone check that?:confused:

[Bluelive]

Too bad a lot of timezones wont get used and some alot, if its day time then in the us most footage will come from there.
Great idea btw, ill try to donate some CET :)

[LEVLHED]

Trial Run: Feb 2nd at 2:03am GMT
Real Deal: March 3rd at 3:03am GMT

yep KF you've got it nailed...that works.
I like the attention to "who owns what". Thanks for getting it all down on "paper"...

[apu]

that 3:05 sunday afternoon for me. daytime n all. hopefully will fidn a nice scenic spot on a summers day to film some stuff for you.

if it was 12 hours earlier it could have been my gig. not to worry.

will have a think about a location

[Kriel]

Nice one! At that time of night in London, we should definitely manage to come up with something interesting.

I'm there...

kriel (http://www.kriel.tv)

[LEVLHED]

nice.
it'll be 6:02pm here? (central time zone, Wisconsin)
yeah...think thats right...

edit: no, it'll be 8:02pm on the 1st (Saturday night )here...

[bassy]

I'm in antwerp,
GMT +01.00

I've got still one question:
Would everybody, who contrubutes, be able to view the footage of the rest of the contributers or will just one person see all the footage and make something (hopefully) good from it, or can we all sending up our footage and, after editing all the footage, sending again the result and our impression of: the never stopping and ever continuing world??

Oh yeah gonna tell it already now, the possebility exists that my footage is just my bed:
( 31-01-03) last exam: 12.30 end exam
12.40.01 arrived at bar 12.40.10 first beer 12.40.15 second beer 12.40.16 third beer,....
18.00 (hope not to drunk) preparing for little school party
18.30 trashing the CPU, hopely not mine
19.00 starting the show
19.01 strating to drink
.... (01-02-03)
0600 hope at home with all material, hope not to druk
0700 starting to 'real' work in superstore
1600 hope i can end 'working' whitout i slept
1700 arrived at bar, joing the friends who are still there
(02-02-03)02.00chasing home for camera
02.45 hope my parents let me go out again,
02.59 start filming (local time)
03.03 stop filming (GMT+01.00)

worst case scenario ....02.45 hope parents let me go out again,
no they don't,... DAMN
02.59 filming myself pretending to sleep
03.01 stop pretending, go to family (they sleep :) )

and monday again to school.....

nice weekend :d gonna like it

bassy

[LEVLHED]

the idea is we will all eventually have access to all the donated clips in some form or other...we have to make sure bandwidth isn't an issue, if it is then we have to take turns DL them and having our way with them to re-contribute to the experiment...or decide on suitable compression/file size guidelines and sacrifice some rez...

[KillingFrenzy]

I think the Website would be a nice way to do it, because it allows us all access, and is the most obvious way for all of us to get something out of it.

BUT.

I'd like to try and make a DVD with higher res clips and see how that goes. I'm getting a DVD burner, so it will be an interesting project.

My vision for a website would include a quick description of what occured. Then, a clip randomizer that "shuffles" the deck of clips and lets a batch of them play.

I think the experiment will have to depend on "distributed computing" in the sense that what we'll do is have everyone create their clip at the highest possible quality and then do the compressing at home.

Then, we'll request people to upload "10 seconds, at 320x240 at 15fps in some codec"

I suppose it depends on how many people submit as well.
Another option would be to send a high-rez clip on a CDR. But now we're talking postage from all over the world.

I have DSL, and can set up an FTP server for purposes of collecting and distributing. I can't use it as a permanent site, however... because I do to much futzing around with my desktop.
Still, I'll offer to set that up as a collection point, since we may need more storage and access for a short period of time.

[PilotX]

We're in to film Birmingham GMT time.

Tom
syzygy visuals

[LEVLHED]

do you know how to burn DVDs with the "alternate angles"?
I've seen...umm..action movies...that have alternate camera angles you can switch to on the fly...now wouldn't that be cool to have the alternate angles be alternate global positions?

[holly]

I have DVD Studio Pro and I think it has a limit of 8 alternate angle streams. Dunno if that's a program limit or a dvd spec limit.

[KillingFrenzy]

A friend and I built a DVD that had 99 tracks that randomly played.
The coolest thing was that it kept track, and didn't play the same one until the entire cycle had gone through.
I'm thinking something similar, but with several up at one time.
Any ideas or help in the matter are appreciated. I'd just like to see the results.
I actually know how to make the exact "look" and randomization work in visualJockey... but it doesn't output sound from a file, and it isn't really distributable as an executable without licensing. I'll ponder other ways to do it. Or maybe I can talk the VJ team into an "AVI with sound" plugin. I've been harping on them about it anyway. More of an installation solution than a general one, however.

[hyperdimensional]

don't know where i'll be, but i'd be up for contributing....

[vjpixylight]

Another factor in all this is the PAL/ NTSC format...I am fairly sure that NTSC will play in any DVD player around the world (if it is region free), but PAL DVD's won't...
So with that being an issue, I think getting all video to NTSC would be best..(either at 320x240, or 640x480)
Any objections?
Also there is codec issues, but lets get the format settled first..:)

[wellREDman]

im in thank god im gmt so i dont have to do any maths, shame about having to down res to ntsc, but thats the way it has to go i spose

[LEVLHED]

regarding codec/standard..first, lets get everyone to shoot their footage at the ordained time(s)...then peeps should be bringing their stuff into edit via firewire, editing down to the magic moment with some prologue/epilogue footage for context...we want to at least have a way for all of this high-rez footage to be shared at hi-rez...NTSC/PAL shouldn't matter so much for that part? Once we get all the footage collected (and hopefully redistributed) at high-rez (at uncompressed, or DV or similar), then we will worry about each of us rendering their footage into various codecs/sizes for other needs. We all want to be thinking of our footage ending up on a DVD (made by KF or anyone else who's able/willing). I don't think it matters at first what standard its at...its when the footage is edited and converted to mpeg2 for DVD that we'll need to consider the pal/ntsc issues.


gosh, I hope everyone has broadband, cuz a 56k just ain't gonna cut it for this experiment!

[bassy]

Originally posted by LEVLHED

gosh, I hope everyone has broadband, cuz a 56k just ain't gonna cut it for this experiment!


If 56K i would consider for FedEx or something simular,....
if ya count the hours u will need for uploading and downloading the fast courier would be back and maybe for less than the telefone bill.

But I guess i can be considered as one of the million lucky ones.

note: all this was ironicly meant,
back to topic now.

[LEVLHED]

as discussed before, we want everyone to reference the time visually in the "slop" area of the take...someone had mentioned putting a synchronized watch in the frame which would work for our purpose....I thought of another way that could be handy...take a moment (or eight) and set your camera's clock off the http://greenwichmeantime.com/ site, then go into the menu on your camera and see if you can get the clock display to record out to tape "on-the-fly"...or if it won't record out that way, just be able to verbally reference the time, ie. "at the tone the time will be exactly xx:xx 3,2,1,beep" based off your camera clock, so that we can make a reasonable estimate of when the "magic moment" was to reference its timing to the rest of the contributions...

of course if you don't have a clock on your camera, then get creative, but not too elaborate:)

[bassy]

Killing Frenzy said:

No internal or external editing.

and someone else (or maybe also Killing Frenzy)

We all capture at the best possible resolution,... (or something like that, couldn't found it anymore, it's late, almost exams finished, tired,..... :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: )

I wouln't disagree.

But here it's night. so Am I allowed to use the exposure, to control the lightning, if it's automatically, it's bit overlighted in the foreground and way undelighted in the back.
I've tested. The reason is that here in the streets, the lights are on, and these are that kind of orange giving lights. (Thought it were standard Argon (Ar) lights like on highways [at least in Belgium])
So my point is: If I'm not allowed to use the exposure to controle the light, the quality of the footage (quality: brightness, bead (dictionary translation, others could be: pinch, texture)) is many times higher than when not done,...
I'm just wanting to say, that it's automatically done, i could send rather a highly compressed good shooted Divx, then an uncompressed any other, lot times bigger but badly shot file.
Just because it 'almost' (the only difference is the intensity of light) gives the same result

[LEVLHED]

It'll be dark here too..yes, by all means adjust the exposure appropriately...in fact I insist!...what KF is refering to is using any of the built-in digital effects (sepia, solarize, etc) or any After Effects and what not after you capture it...don't try and "jazz it up" with any extra stuff...just a good clean shot...well, as clean as you can. This is supposed to be fun, so don't get too worried about the "rules" :)

[apu]

i am looking forward to sunday 3:05pm

its daylight and summer. should get something quite scenic i hope

i have broadband so i will be able to email the raw footage i hope. i dont mind posting a cd if need be though.

this is the first time in my life that i have been involved in anything like this and i cant wait to see the final product and go 'look theres my bit'

sweet as

[KillingFrenzy]

Oops,
Yes, I just meant to try not to jazz things up too much. I.e. exposure is fine, using a posterization effect is a bit much. The theory is to have the clips look roughly similar and have the content be what sets them apart, hence similar dimensions and no "effects". Thats all I meant.
I'm looking forward to it as well. Hehe, of course my schedule that day might mean I'm actually in transport between work and a creative arts meeting. You may see some Seattle streets out the window of my car :(

[lichtspieler]

you can probably expect some footage from me too. Location will probably be Munich or, Weilheim i.o.B.

[holly]

Too bad it's not 12 hours earlier. Expecting to get some fantastic footage from the Chinese New Year festivities!

[LEVLHED]

oooh...go get "chinese new year aftermath" footage instead...streets covered in fire cracker paper, a dead dragon,

I'm looking foward to this too! The trial run is only a few days away now! I had no idea you all would get so into this...

[sleepytom]

does someone fancy posting the instructions for how to take part in this on the vjcentral front page - this can be the diffinative spec to work from (ie amout of time to film and where to get an acurate timesignal from) - the ftp details for uploading the footage could be put there too

it would be very good to have all the info in one place in a difinative style so that we all work to the same spec (i for one can't be arsed to read this thread over and over to try and work out what to do!)

[apu]

good idea

a simple plan of attack

[spark]

damn i like this place. and at 02.03 on the second of feb, i'll be half-way through a d'n'b allnighter... wahey!

btw i really like that idea at the beginning of a website where you can log on at any time and see footage shot at that time... but thats a biggie project.

toby

[apu]

very nice day for it after a wicked gig last night.

sweet

[apu]

mission accomplished. a beautiful sunny day in AKL town. great vibe and music.

will sort out video very soon after a big catchup sleep

ciao

[PilotX]

3 gigs last weekend has taken its toll on me and Dan and we didn't manage to get up this morning to film. Sorry to all as we would have liked to have been involved from the start. Will be sure to contribute next time (think we should make it in the day for GMT ;)

Tom
syzygy visuals

ps: can't wait to see the finished article...

[KillingFrenzy]

If I didn't have a cat on my lap right now, folded over my arm I'd be wacking myself on the forehead.
I've been incredibly busy this week, having acquired a couple of last minute, content specific gigs. I was all ready to hop in and give a last minute push on this project. BUTTTTTT!
Yes, I foolishly got the WRONG DAY. I suppose after naming the wrong year for the date in my earlier post, this was bound to happen.

Anyway, I got nothing.
Even sadder, I was all stoked and rescheduled my work for tomorrow. (contemplates moving cat for own head whapping)

So, I'm even more committed to collating this first batch of attempts, and planning the next one.

I think the first thing to do is get a "role call" of who filmed. It also will be instant gratification for us losers that missed out.
So, everyone should post a brief response saying where they are, and sort of what they got on tape.

I'm thinking if the number is fairly small, then getting the results together should be easy for this one. I'm thinking the A.V.I.T. events are a good place to setup installations.

I apologize for screwing up on the date... no one more disappointed then myself.

[holly]

What do you mean....? It's still....

oh.... I forgot to subtract a day. I was thinking it'd be 9pm on Feb 2, but I guess it's 9pm Feb 1.... (smacks head with cat in hand) I'm an idiot.

I see why the trial run was necessary.

[LEVLHED]

don't worry about it...I *almost* completely missed it too...was actually driving at that time, coming into Milwaukee from the north, on my way to Nixmix's...haven't had a chance to review yet, I imagine its nothing spectacular. But thats OK, its just an experiment:)
yes, I'm glad we decided to do a trial run too.

I was thinking about the next step, what might make things easiest as far as editing/organizing is if we each edit our own clips to start at the magic moment (2:03 GMT) and make them..20 seconds long? How many MB is 20 seconds uncompressed @ full rez?

[KillingFrenzy]

Let's at least knock it down to DV compression, that will help some.

SO,

Howzabout 20 seconds at DV compression in your native format (pal, ntsc, secam?). We'll get these together, and then we can batch them for different compression rates/sizes etc. down to something useable.

First things first:
Can I get a role call of who exactly has footage?
This will let me know how to work the uploading. If it is only 2 people, it will be pretty simple... 27 and I have to rethink how to do it.

Thinking ahead,
Shall we aim at 3/03/03 at 3:03:03 for our next capture?
I'll aim at getting a web page set up before then, so we can refer people to that for the "rules of the game" and use this first test as an example.

[vjpixylight]

Originally posted by KillingFrenzy
Let's at least knock it down to DV compression, that will help some.

SO,

Howzabout 20 seconds at DV compression in your native format (pal, ntsc, secam?). We'll get these together, and then we can batch them for different compression rates/sizes etc. down to something useable.

First things first:
Can I get a role call of who exactly has footage?
This will let me know how to work the uploading. If it is only 2 people, it will be pretty simple... 27 and I have to rethink how to do it.

Thinking ahead,
Shall we aim at 3/03/03 at 3:03:03 for our next capture?
I'll aim at getting a web page set up before then, so we can refer people to that for the "rules of the game" and use this first test as an example.


cool that so many peepsdid something for this trial run..
:nod:

Also, 20 meg uncompressed is an ungodly size..If everyone is using DV cams, then DV codec would be great, but what if there are hi-8 or DV8's or just vhs quality footage...We should all agree to a standard size to edit the 333 footaage 2...Any thoughts ???
320 or 640 for the native rez? it has to be decided to make it the least amount of work, or I fear it will not get anywhere...

[spark]

spark checking in... can't guarantee exactly 02.03 or a minute straight as i kinda forgot the details in the haze of the gig, but i got some clips, i'll upload what i have :D

also, yup yup for an avit being a good place to make an installation... fits the bill perfectly!

(it'll be a straight upload of either PAL DV stream or Quicktime wrapped DV, ie FCP).

So, who's server?

[bassy]

Ok I've got some footage.

Do you all know what I had to do for it. Damned.
On the moment I had to film, i had slept less then 13 hours, start counting on wednesday morning,... So, i used the exposure, but at the moment it self, i was not able to set sharp and control the exposure.
I've got some 7 min. footage: 3 min before, 3 min after,...
But at the half an hour i was outside to go to the place for shooting, i saw maybay 4 cars,.... so it really was exciting,...
For the format and the rez etc. i'll let that handle over to the pro's.
I accually used last week for the first time cinepack codec by radius, and for 640-480 I had to look very close to see and difference between uncompressed.
But maybe you guys have you own idea's, let us know in time, that we don't waste to much time.

(Sleeping) Bassy

[KillingFrenzy]

Heya,

I haven't been putting much time into this, because I have a huge project for this upcoming weekend. Essentially a theater performance with synced visuals. I just thought I'd chime in here and get the participants focused again, and I'll put time in after the 17th.

I'll aim at getting everyone's footage between the 18th and 21st of this month. That way, I can make it available to everyone to look at, and we can brainstorm for the next run. I might be wrong, but it seems like there really are only about 5 people that got footage. This means, I can realistically arrange to gather the footage by different methods for each person.

Here are some simple suggestions:
I create an FTP server on my Desktop, and try not to do anything that causes it to lag or need rebooting for a few days.

We come up with some Peer to Peer solutions, and I just grab a shared file by this method. So, I would come up with some times to hang out on some public servers and we'd share the files.

I figure out how to configure my web-hosting account for an upload account, and let people upload. (I only have 100 megs, however).

People individually post their footage in their own means, and let me download it.

These aren't necessarily good solutions for a big project, but with a small number of people it should be easy enough.

Until the 18th, here's what you can do.
PREPARE your footage at the highest possible quality.
Get your footage onto your computer and cut it down to "the magic moment." For right now, let's call it 20 seconds starting at 2:02:02 until 2:02:22
Leave the footage in your native format (PAL or NTSC) full framerate, full fps, and at the best compression you can capture at. For DVcodec camcorders, just do a direct DV capture. For analog input, try and use a codec that is friendly for editing.

If you shot footage,
Please post which of the methods I listed above would be the easiest to send the files by.

Once I get everything together, I can post it and we can all have a look at it.

[spark]

ftp gets my vote. i can put the dv somewhere or upload to you. 20secs good, i kinda haven't got more than that in one shot...

[KillingFrenzy]

I p-mailed everybody that has been on this thread about an ftp I opened up (i didn't want somebody spidering the ip off the posted message).

If you didn't get the PMail and you shot footage, go ahead and Pmail me to get the FTP location, so you can upload.

[KillingFrenzy]

If you can send me a mail, or text with a quick description, that would help as well.

So:
Place
Time of day
Description/Title of the clip

That way I can "label" each clip

Apu sent me his already, so I think the FTP is working.

[KillingFrenzy]

I've got Bassy and Apu's clips.
Who else has footage?

[bassy]

OK for the next run.

It's the thir of March, here in Belgium its a week Hollyday, and I'm going to the Spanish Pyrenees, but I wont have any internet acces (and i don't want to have that week).

So all the practical 'rules' should be online before friday 00.00 GMT (app.)

So what I want to ask,
-who long?
-exact start of cut and end of cut?

Bassy

[Ollie]

So how many people actually rememberd then???

I got my time capsule capture down, where do we put/upload/send it?

Hope everyone remembered otherwise we'l have to wait till 04:04:04 04/04/2004 to get a date like that to capture a moment in the time of the world...


Peace

Ollie

[PilotX]

Remebered to do it this time :)

Got to take it off the camera and check the timecode but will do that shortly.

Add syzygy to the roll call

Tom

[LEVLHED]

OH YEAH!

this project resurfaces....

[labmeta]

did the footage ever come together for this? I dont remember seeing anything but It`d be great to see some results.

or if it didnt go well perhaps we can have another attempt.

Paul

[LEVLHED]

I think we ended up with only a few people who got the footage (even I missed the "real" one!)
then it kinda fizzled....I think AVIT, NA took over my mind then..

however, I think we should try this again!
I've been PMd by a chap in Greece who suggested we shoot for 04/04/04/etc
this will give us time to try a few "trial runs"...the concept is easy, but its hard to actually remember when you need to do your filming! For me I ended up being on the 5+ hour drive back from a gig in Minneapolis which when I left my house to get to I simply hadn't considered that I'd be driving home at that time and didn't even have my video camera with me...

so...yeah
who else wants to?
should we start a thread "TransGlobal Time Collaboration part 2"?

[InsideUsAll]

yeah new thread!

I forgot last time, but its such a cool idea, we should do it. 4/4/4 sounds like a great idea - we should shoot it at 4:04 GMT too, and divide the screen into 4 and roll 4 joints, and set it to 4:4 and and and and....

yeah we should do it again - it was such a good idea it'd be criminal not to actually get it off the ground