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MrJustin
23rd March 2006, 02:14 PM
Ok so it occurred to me the other day when poking around in the resolume program file that the masks and transitions use bitmaps to mask off the wipe. So i decided to make some of my own.

Quick how-to incase anyone's unsure...
Go into the Resolume program folder and find the 'Masks' or 'Transitions' folder, and replace the ones in there (back them up first!!) with a bitmap of the same dimensions and displaying ther image of whatever you feel inspired to put there .

And now in true Blue Peter fashion... here are some i prepared ealier....

The '35mm negative' frame...
http://myspace-560.vo.llnwd.net/00591/06/59/591729560_l.jpg
The shameless self-publicity wipe...
http://myspace-021.vo.llnwd.net/00591/12/00/591730021_l.jpg
The slightly ominous eye transition...
http://myspace-282.vo.llnwd.net/00591/28/20/591730282_l.jpg
And perhaps my personal favourite, the old BBC testcard...
http://myspace-138.vo.llnwd.net/00591/83/19/591729138_l.jpg

Anyone else done this before, maybe you wanna go home and try it yourself?! Lets have some more, im sure you can come up with some better ones than these... let's see em!! :D

makemassair
25th March 2006, 10:46 PM
wicked thinking. when i get on top of my work defo gonna be fiddling with some bitmaps.

personally i hate bitmaps, but for the bigger picture i'll work with them.

USE
25th March 2006, 10:56 PM
wicked thinking. when i get on top of my work defo gonna be fiddling with some bitmaps.

innit. ive done a few, but i wont be home for few weeks so they'll be up then

personally i hate bitmaps, but for the bigger picture i'll work with them.

why's that?

makemassair
25th March 2006, 11:23 PM
dunno. never got on with them. just have memories of doodling in microsoft paint years ago and thinking although fun, very basic. then went into graphic design and found tiff's and jpeg's. never needed bitmaps.

mxmai
30th March 2006, 02:12 AM
yeah i was using some customized masks in resolume for a gig i did a while back. had the crew's logo as a stencil, it looked great when dropped over the top of some nice big flames.

MoRpH
30th March 2006, 06:48 AM
You can also do masking like this in OpenTZT using Esotic's mask effect. Also look out for OpenTZT 1.5 RC1 OUT SOON :)

makemassair
5th April 2006, 12:41 AM
shameless thread stealing morph. haha

MoRpH
5th April 2006, 01:19 AM
Just a little information ;)

AndresC4
5th April 2006, 06:03 AM
i used a logo of the place and i made a mask with it
i don?t have it now, but it was a 2d logo , it was a L with a circule around
i made a gray scale bitmap, from left to rigth from 255 to 0 in the background
and the "logo" itself was gray scale from left to rigth with 0 to 255

USE
5th April 2006, 02:14 PM
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/usemal/natmask.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/usemal/stivmaskcopy.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/usemal/yinstivmask.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/usemal/yinmasksm.jpg

great fun.

vdmoKstaTi
10th April 2006, 06:33 AM
MrJustin,

Next time I'll see you I'll buy you a beer! Wickid tip!
Got me thinking a lot more about masks all thanks to you.

I use resolume most of the time, but will exeriment with TZT as well on this 4 sure.. cheers Morph!

grig
vdmo Kstati

asterix
10th April 2006, 07:34 AM
I've played around quite a bit with masks in flowmotion which has mask wipes and mask overlays. I generally stear clear of stills for masking because it stagnates the image.
Instead I've generated a few simple flash overlays which are black and white for ultra sharp and predictable masking. Plus that little bit of movement really keeps the composition moving.
IMHO masking and blends are amongst the most important features in good VJ mixing. I too often see shitty subtractive and alpha blends which really look tasteless. A good overlay should not cloud the colour range, be sharp and have good colour tones without making the overlay too busy. Making masks a really nifty skill to get a grip of.

MoRpH
10th April 2006, 10:05 AM
IMHO masking and blends are amongst the most important features in good VJ mixing. I too often see shitty subtractive and alpha blends which really look tasteless. A good overlay should not cloud the colour range, be sharp and have good colour tones without making the overlay too busy. Making masks a really nifty skill to get a grip of.

Couldn;t agree with you more. There is far to much messy keying and layering out there that destroy otherwise quality mixing and content.

I to use a lot of animated B&W layers for masking , but stills have a place in my masking mix, especially for branding.

USE
10th April 2006, 11:03 AM
I to use a lot of animated B&W layers for masking , but stills have a place in my masking mix, especially for branding.

what type of animated files does resolume take for masking? anyone know?

SilentEclipse
10th April 2006, 11:28 AM
I just made some black and white masks in flash which when keyed over a layer in inverse luma key or multiply mode gives a nice effect

Resolume cant 'see' these in the mask folder though so I assume .swf files cannot be defined as a mask

MoRpH
10th April 2006, 12:33 PM
I'm not talking about using resolume in the specific case of animated masks, I personally use the middle of the 3 layers in OpenTZT set to Multi or Multilight.

MrJustin
10th April 2006, 12:58 PM
Grig: im gonna hold you to that beer if i ever finish my tunnel and break through into the outback. :cheers:

USE: resolume will only accept a 24 bit bmp file for a mask, but any resolution will do, best to stick to your output resolution to keep it clean. Oh, and i also found out you can just drag and drop a bitmap file into the masks/transitions bit in the interface if you want to swap masks during performance more easily.

And if you're near South london tonight USE, Stewart lee is performing at my local boozer in new cross... cheers for the video clip on sj, made me chuckle.

I'm gonna have to have a play with open tzt now after those plugs from morph! ;)

USE
10th April 2006, 06:02 PM
USE: resolume will only accept a 24 bit bmp file for a mask, but any resolution will do, best to stick to your output resolution to keep it clean. Oh, and i also found out you can just drag and drop a bitmap file into the masks/transitions bit in the interface if you want to swap masks during performance more easily.
sweet tip, cheers. i was hoping that res would take multi layered tiffs, but no matter what the compression its nto having it. animated masks would have been nice. there must be some way round this. its my mission for the evening (that and some flash which is spinning my nut)

And if you're near South london tonight USE, Stewart lee is performing at my local boozer in new cross... cheers for the video clip on sj, made me chuckle.

glad you liked it. and i would have been up there in a flash, if i was in the country, but im down in france atm, detoxing. well up for a pint or summat when i get back tho. are you out bank holiday weekend? big tings a gwarn, but i dunno if it'll be up on sj, these days its well paranoid. not for no reason tho.

I'm gonna have to have a play with open tzt now after those plugs from morph! ;)

innit, ive just swapped arkaos for resolume, but ive played with tzt down in brighton, and the effects at least shit on res's. just convincing myself to start over again is a pain.

MoRpH
10th April 2006, 06:12 PM
USE.... thanks to the guys @ Deepvisual it looks like instead of running my OpenTZT masterclass @ the Versions festival in france (which fell through) I may now be running it there, which your welcome to attend :)

Or you can always buy me a beer in a brighton pub and ask me to bring my laptop for a private lesson ;)

USE
10th April 2006, 06:18 PM
USE.... thanks to the guys @ Deepvisual it looks like instead of running my OpenTZT masterclass @ the Versions festival in france (which fell through) I may now be running it there, which your welcome to attend :)

Or you can always buy me a beer in a brighton pub and ask me to bring my laptop for a private lesson ;)

double woot!

also i started a thread to try and identify the brighton vjs i havent met on here, hopefully sort out a big beer up for the lads when i get back and you're about. should be fun!

mxmai
11th April 2006, 01:08 AM
IMHO masking and blends are amongst the most important features in good VJ mixing. I too often see shitty subtractive and alpha blends which really look tasteless. A good overlay should not cloud the colour range, be sharp and have good colour tones without making the overlay too busy. Making masks a really nifty skill to get a grip of.

spot on.


for masks that aren't stills in resolume, couldn't you just use a clip in black and white, not as a mask per se, but use lighten or darken blending? or am i confused here?

MoRpH
11th April 2006, 01:20 AM
Nope, thats pretty much the idea..... although I find Multi or Multilight in OpenTZT work better than Darken or Subtract.
for masks that aren't stills in resolume, couldn't you just use a clip in black and white, not as a mask per se, but use lighten or darken blending? or am i confused here?

MrJustin
11th April 2006, 04:55 PM
USE.... thanks to the guys @ Deepvisual it looks like instead of running my OpenTZT masterclass @ the Versions festival in france (which fell through) I may now be running it there, which your welcome to attend :)

Or you can always buy me a beer in a brighton pub and ask me to bring my laptop for a private lesson ;)


Sounds like a plan, be sure you let us know when it happens. depvisual is quite a bit easier and cheaper to get to than brighton, though the 1-on-1 beer fueled tutorial does sound appealing! :cheers: