Hypnosis themed imagery?

[holly]

You are getting sleeepey..., very sleeeepy...

Want to do a HYPNOSIS themed set. Kind of a Sal Bass graphics "VERTIGO"-type imagery, maybe a videoshoot too, but I'm not above using samples or classic movies if you can suggest something....

Spinning spirals, shadowy man with intense eyes, swinging pocketwatch....

:help: any suggestions?:lurker: :crazyeyes :scared:

[hamageddon]

spirals
Marcel Duchamp - Anemic Cinema

hypnosis
http://www.archive.org/details/hypnosis

[many2]

Op art (optical art) can be a good inspiration. Look for work by Bridget Riley, who was a master of Op Art if there was one.

Easy technique to replicate those effects with animation : apply two black and white patterns on two layers with a "difference" blending mode then animate both layers (even a simple offset will give interesting results).

[robotfunk]

plz remind me when I get back tomorrow, i have this collection of weird movie trailers somewhere, i'm sure there's just the thing in there somewhere

[KillingFrenzy]

http://www.hypnosisinmedia.com/Non-Fiction/JoanBrandon/

So, I've got a physical copy of "The Art of Hypnotism" which a friend gave me a awhile ago.
Funny, because Ms. Joan Brandon actually looks a bit like you, Holly. Perhaps an earlier incarnation?

Anyway, I've got it if you want me to scan the pictures (lots of posed black and white stills of Ms. Brandon getting straight-laced types to do weird things.)
Just let me know when you need it by, since I have a head cold and a couple projects to finish by Friday, but then I'll be clear.

[gpvillamil]

Check out "Our Man Flint", at 1:22:30, the scene where the women are being hypnotized.

Lots of spinning disks.

"My sole purpose in life is to bring pleasure to my companions!"

"Repeat after me: I am NOT a pleasure unit!"

[tdeagan]

Try this little gem from the Prelinger Archives:
Photographic Studies in Hypnosis (http://www.archive.org/details/hypnosis)

I've chopped a bunch of stuff out of it for clips.

Cheers,
--tim

[holly]

http://www.zumbazone.com/duchamp/images/works/anemicb.jpg
:D Thanks! I have some research to do! I see the offset circles in Duchamp (above), more complex than spirals.... Yeah, definitely that retro op-art dizzy feeling.

:eek: omigad KillF, I want to BE Joan Brandon! You can make a LIVING doing this sort of thing? I'm wasting my time with VJing.... Might have to find her books and get some tips!
:not worth

OH Yeah..., I have both FLINT movies, I sampled the later scene when they are gogo dancers in the red room....! I'd forgotten they were hypnotised -- just thought it was a good party! har har.

THANKS! If anyone knows more, keep em comin.
:yep:

[littlecatalyst]

i think luc was getting into this but if you look arrond for good examples of moire pattern (http://images.google.com/images?q=moire&svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&sa=G&imgsz=) they ought to be easy to make, or you can usually buy a kit of patterns at science stores and shoot them /scan them and then anim

[devonmiles]

victor vasarely, the godfather of op art...

[MrJustin]

Shadowy man with intense eyes...

Sounds like Christopher Lloyd's character in 'who framed roger rabbit' .. near the end if my memory serves right he kinda floats around lots and has pretty manic glowing/spirally eyes. lots of 'dazed-cartoon-character' stars in there too which ought to be pretty easy to extract cos they're animated over the normal film.


I've also got some pretty crazy footage of a guy being wheeled through a dark room by men in white coats, the shot later goes into his iris to black, might be useful. it's from a short i worked on last year, but i only have a physical copy. if you tell me how to rip it i can send u that. just dont tell the production company i was working for!!


Hope this is of use.

Justin

[robotfunk]

sorry but it must have been a false memory, went to 4 hrs of weird trailers twice and the hypno wheel stuff I was looking for wasn't there. Will let you know if I do come across it.

[Amukidi]

victor vasarely, the godfather of op art...
Word!

[brain]

"The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombies" from 1964 has repeatedly cheap + silly hypnosis scenes, mybe someone you know has the DVD...

there is a short demonstration on 1960s "hypnovision" (or similar) on a trailer tape called "sleazemania uk" where a "doctor" pinches a ladys arm with needles while shes "hypnotized"+ smiling
... or is she a die-hard masochist?? could be somewhere on the web

maybe you can locate some kinetic op art exibition in your area, some people have done incredible stuff which might also work on film, like Hugo K?kelhaus with his rotating discs - got instantly high while watching!

godd luck

[brain]

oh, and of course
this guy (http://www.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/index-e.html), it would be a challenge to animate/transfer some of this stuff into moving images...

[MrJustin]

Originally posted by robotfunk
sorry but it must have been a false memory, went to 4 hrs of weird trailers twice and the hypno wheel stuff I was looking for wasn't there. Will let you know if I do come across it.

Im not sure if this is referring to myself or someone else but ....here.... (http://www.s10forum.com/forum/customavatars/avatar35161_1.gif) you'll see what i mean.

i'll grant you the eyes have been animated in this pic but they do kinda boggle around and go crazy in the film. I'll see if i can get a clip from the dvd when i get back home on saturday, that is if holly actually wants it, otherwise i'm just fighting my corner pointlessly!!
:horse:

It's my short-term memory that's frazzled, not the long term!!! ;)

Justin

[robotfunk]

I know a file on archive.org with someone who really can do that with his eyes.

[robotfunk]

here (http://www.archive.org/details/the_90s_112_las_vegas_jerry_lewis_days_of_swine_an d_roses)
the pig farmer bit is a nugget as well

[videobrian]

i did some hypnosis themed vids a bit ago.
probably different than what you doing but check 'em out


new and improved: advertising (http://www.mediumrecords.com/video/scenesfrom.mov)


stop smoking: now (http://www.mediumrecords.com/video/smoke2.mov)

64 slices of american cheese (http://www.mediumrecords.com/video/64slices_a.mov)

[sketchyj]

i've been practising mind control with my visuals for some time. In conjuntion with SketchyCorp, I will soon control an army of followers that I can exploit financially. It's all part of the new SketchyCorp campaign....."Shut up and dance you idiot and stop thinking, that is why they are paying me to be here, asshole."

Brought to you by the Sketchy Corporation

[KillingFrenzy]

http://greylodge.org/gpc/

Check out the Hypnosis stuff...

The Ferrofluid Sculptures link below it is pretty amazing as well.

[ToxicOrange]

full screen hypnosis courtesy of the Hypnotoad ...
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[moonbase]

The Duchamp Rotoreliefs definitely inspire - make up real discs, design the paterns through trial & experiment, maybe with small motors, no for sure self powered, mirror ball motors might work, no too slow and weak probably, they could be used with a live camera feed/s, variable speeds on each disc, fade from one disc image to the next, use chroma paint on the discs somehow to create a pattern, project onto the moving discs, make use of one of Duchamps original thoughts which was to re-train the 3 dimensional insight of soldiers who had lost one eye in the 1stWW - extend the view and insight of us sighted in new directions, eye patches?!

http://www.marcelduchamp.net/of_two_minds_and_one_nature.php

'I only had to use two circumferences -- eccentric -- and make them turn on a third center.' " MD'champ

psMay also be some mileage in one of my favourite little aps Cosmic Painter http://www.garagecube.com/download/

[KillingFrenzy]

Or if you had two turntables sitting around, you could set up a couple cameras and have at it with all sorts of goodies plopped on top of them.

[many2]

Or if you had two turntables sitting around, you could set up a couple cameras and have at it with all sorts of goodies plopped on top of them.

Wow, I love that idea :) Nice one KF.

Along the same path, you can also make some spinning painting : just drop paint on a spinning disk and see the results ;) I believe you can see an example of that on the Michel Gondry DVD : he made some kind of organ that was dripping different colors of paint on a spinning piece of paper according to the notes played by Bjork.

[NickT]

http://www.opartica.com
A great little piece of flash that you can download to creat moire patterns etc

[holly]

http://www.opartica.com
A great little piece of flash that you can download to creat moire patterns etc
Hey, that is great!:fish:

[THC]

try that....

[Meierhans]

These pictures are pretty nice as wallpaper on desktop, so even when your VJ apps may crash there is still movement on the screen. ;)