topherz
6th December 2005, 08:54 AM
Hi all,
We have two new SOURCE (www.dandelion.org/source) releases coming out very very soon and I am hoping to move away from cinepak for our avi compression. It looks like mjpeg could be the holy grail!
:help:
I would really appreciate it if people out there in vj land could try out this mjpeg encoded clip in their vj softwares and let me know how it works in responses to this thread. This experiment could be helpful to everyone looking for the "right codec" to produce AVI vj content for others.
Here is the clip:
http://www.dandelion.org/mediablock/DCVS08_mjpeg_test.avi
Please provide the following information:
********
Operating system: (Windows XP SP2, Windows 2000....)
DirectX Version: (v8,v9,v9c....)
MJPEG Codec: (only if you have installed one... Morgan v2, PIC, Main Concept...)
VJ software tried in: (resolume, arkaos,vjamm...)
Did the clip work?
********
Here is some background on our serach for the ideal codec for distributing vj content:
Our criteria is:
A. To have a codec that everyone already has on their computer. We want anyone who buys our content to have zero hassle.
B. To have a codec that works very well in VJ software, scrub, scrape, mutate, backwards, etc.
C. To have a codec that places minimal strain on the CPU
D. To have a codec that looks beautiful.
We started in 2001 using the cinepak codec. Although it was not the best looking codec even in 2001, at the time it was the acknowledged champ of vj codecs cause it decompresses so damn fast. Last year we planned to change to using Indeo. Then we learned that with windows XP sp2 indeo was no longer a standard free codec. Grrr!
Since I had to buy an MJPEG codec I always assumed you had to pay for it.We only recently learned that MJPEG decompressors are *supposedly* provided with Directx8, Directx9 and WindowsXP.
See:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/faq.aspx#3_9
3.9 My content needs an MJPG (MJPEG) decoder. Where can I get one?
If your digital camera produces MJPEG .avi files, install Microsoft DirectX 9.0, which includes an MJPEG decoder. To install DirectX 9.0, see the DirectX Download page.
And:
http://www.nwlink.com/~zachd/pss/pss.html
A: DirectX 8, DirectX 9, and Windows XP all include a MJPEG decoder.
If this doesn't work for you, there's also the PICVideo Motion JPEG codec. Other companies probably make 'em too.
******
(By the way, Ive read in a few posts her e the opinion to distribute stuff at maximum quality in a not-necesserily vj friendly codec and let each vj re-encode to their favorite format. This is a good idea, but we have taken the decision that we just want clips that are ready to go. Also, we provide hiqh quality PJPEG quicktimes - so people can use those to recompress to other formats if they want.)
I hope some people have a minute or two to try this! If you like the clip please feel free to use it.
-topher
We have two new SOURCE (www.dandelion.org/source) releases coming out very very soon and I am hoping to move away from cinepak for our avi compression. It looks like mjpeg could be the holy grail!
:help:
I would really appreciate it if people out there in vj land could try out this mjpeg encoded clip in their vj softwares and let me know how it works in responses to this thread. This experiment could be helpful to everyone looking for the "right codec" to produce AVI vj content for others.
Here is the clip:
http://www.dandelion.org/mediablock/DCVS08_mjpeg_test.avi
Please provide the following information:
********
Operating system: (Windows XP SP2, Windows 2000....)
DirectX Version: (v8,v9,v9c....)
MJPEG Codec: (only if you have installed one... Morgan v2, PIC, Main Concept...)
VJ software tried in: (resolume, arkaos,vjamm...)
Did the clip work?
********
Here is some background on our serach for the ideal codec for distributing vj content:
Our criteria is:
A. To have a codec that everyone already has on their computer. We want anyone who buys our content to have zero hassle.
B. To have a codec that works very well in VJ software, scrub, scrape, mutate, backwards, etc.
C. To have a codec that places minimal strain on the CPU
D. To have a codec that looks beautiful.
We started in 2001 using the cinepak codec. Although it was not the best looking codec even in 2001, at the time it was the acknowledged champ of vj codecs cause it decompresses so damn fast. Last year we planned to change to using Indeo. Then we learned that with windows XP sp2 indeo was no longer a standard free codec. Grrr!
Since I had to buy an MJPEG codec I always assumed you had to pay for it.We only recently learned that MJPEG decompressors are *supposedly* provided with Directx8, Directx9 and WindowsXP.
See:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/faq.aspx#3_9
3.9 My content needs an MJPG (MJPEG) decoder. Where can I get one?
If your digital camera produces MJPEG .avi files, install Microsoft DirectX 9.0, which includes an MJPEG decoder. To install DirectX 9.0, see the DirectX Download page.
And:
http://www.nwlink.com/~zachd/pss/pss.html
A: DirectX 8, DirectX 9, and Windows XP all include a MJPEG decoder.
If this doesn't work for you, there's also the PICVideo Motion JPEG codec. Other companies probably make 'em too.
******
(By the way, Ive read in a few posts her e the opinion to distribute stuff at maximum quality in a not-necesserily vj friendly codec and let each vj re-encode to their favorite format. This is a good idea, but we have taken the decision that we just want clips that are ready to go. Also, we provide hiqh quality PJPEG quicktimes - so people can use those to recompress to other formats if they want.)
I hope some people have a minute or two to try this! If you like the clip please feel free to use it.
-topher