VJ:MAGAZINE Exposure gallery

[vjmag]

we are looking for artists to send us there VJ demo real for our issue 1 Exposure Gallery. We will display 7 artists every month

Please render this at 476 x 300
and export this as FLV (FLash Video)

please keep this file on your own FTP server for one month.
Send a link to the flv file to: exposure@vjmag.co.uk

If you do not know how to convert to an FLV, then send a link to a quicktime, avi or mpeg, and we will download and convert if for you.

More details soon folks. Thanks for your time.

VJ:MAG

[sleepytom]

What?
what is VJMag?
why do you want demos from people?
are you going to publish these somewhere?
PLEASE give people some details - otherwise you'll not get very many responces of a good quality.

[Rovastar]

I agree with Tom here.

You have given no information as to what on earth you are trying to achieve and despite us asking legitimate questions you refuse to give us any information.

If you are going to use this forum/site to pimp your own product (? I have no idea what you are doing) and to try and get VJs to give you material for without any explanation.

Out of respect for using this forum to gain some sort of credibility here you should give some information.

Personally I wouldn?t advise any VJs to send material to this person without any explanation of where/why they want to use this content.

We at VJForums always like to help new ventures in VJing and a VJ publication sounds like a worthy cause.

But you are sounding very unprofessional and I don?t see why anyone should deal with a highly unprofessional organisation/person. IMHO working with people like this often own ends with you either working for no reward and/or damaging your reputation.

[holly]

:eek: WOW! I get to host my own demoreel on my own site while you leech?
Whatanoppertunity!:yep:

For practical reasons I think I will have to wait and see how your "magazine" looks after a month or two, Mr Faceless Unknown-Entity Mag. I already have a website and a reputation. When you have the same maybe I will reconsider.
:poke:
Good luck. I honestly hope you the best, as I would hope anything anywhere the best. I am interested in what/where your website is going, and who will be involved, but I guess I can wait until the countdown goes to zero....
:)

[Rovastar]

Let ring him up and ask him what it is all about.


01502 740........

or

07729 943.........

or write to

postcode: NR33 7...

Address queries to VJ ISIS

;)

[vjmag]

ok here goes..

VJ:MAG will be a monthly online magazine, and will host Hardware and software reviews, advertisments, Interviews, downloads, tutorials, exposure, events and much much more.

VJ:Mag will be run by a team of professional dedicated VJ`s from all corners of the world, and provide insight knowledge for the Newbee to the professional.

As part of our Exposure Gallery, we are looking for demos reels and biogs of VJ artists to display.

I must applogise for not giving more information sooner.

I hope this helps.

P.S we are in talks with going to print with this in 2007

[holly]

Yes, it helps. We understand your goals, if not quite the vision. It sounds like an undertaking....
Originally posted by vjmag
VJ:Mag will be run by a team of professional dedicated VJ`s from all corners of the world, and provide insight knowledge for the Newbee to the professional.
Any names we would have heard of? Over the last 2 years I've watched an explosion of VJ-oriented "how-to" projects from classes to books to articles in magazines. You would think this is the most popular hobby in the world right now.

Some Vs are probably better at performing than writing, and vice-versa, so it remains to be seen what the format and focus will be. So far I have seen really only articles of interest/use to newbees (or the occaisional academic "theory"). I would be delighted to see something for the "pros" with a business sensibility. Or even an "intermediate" class that assumes you already have your software/codecs and are looking to leave the "bedroom" and do installations or concept performances. It will take some strong editorial direction to make the thing appeal to all levels.

somehow I have let the quotationmarks get out of control, but that is my attempt to use "blanket terms" which hopefully don't offend overly touchy VJs -- oops, I mean visualist/vidiots/Avs/aVs....

good luck!;)

[fALk]

Then holly why don?t you become a writer at VJ:MAG too? You might give some direction with your approach and thinking or counter some other opinions. So before complaining now that there hasn?t even been an issue is a little silly right? As far as I know this is the first "business" approach to a VJ:Mag and might be worth supporting... And yes I do too think the silence and secrecy surrounding this project is weird - but so is the world and its many reasons...

[Anyone]

I truly hope this magazine project works out well,

but as I'm sure you are realising with the replies from this thread,
VJ cred is as hard if not harder to get than on any b-boy terf.

free services in exchange of exposure
is at the moment the worst offer one could make to a VJ
and will stir up a lot of emotions in this community...

but hey, this is just the first round...
more to come I hope?

still guys, focus on earning the cred on VJ street,
earn your stripes, as they say...

which brings me to ask another question,
on your website, the strapline sais

"the No.1 VJ knowledge magazine"

How can you be No.1 if you haven't even started publishing yet?
Is it because you're the only one? (actualy, you're not)

so now, from earn your stripes, I've got to add,
earn your straps...

Ne1

[asterix]

Im sure theres plenty of folk looking to feature on a vj oriented website.How can you be No.1 if you haven't even started publishing yet?

Ummm... it is (will be) the only one. So I guess thats a reasonable claim to fame hey :)

I don't agree with that whole earn your stripes caper. Theres been plenty of positive vibe around the forums about producing something. And plenty of hands have gone up to do something - anything! At least someones finally doing it.

From a publishing point of view what he/she is doing is probably right. Rally up as much artillary so that advertisers see real value in the product. Its got to float financially somehow.

[Anyone]

Originally posted by asterix
Ummm... it is (will be) the only one.

Ummm... no it's not! do your homework buddy!

[holly]

Originally posted by fALk
So before complaining now that there hasn?t even been an issue is a little silly right?....
Huh? I'm not complaining. I was being sympathetic: appealing to all levels will be a challange, and then I wished him/her/them good luck.

Secrecy is good sometimes around here. If you say something specific there are 1000 anti-opinions. Better to say nothing at all!
lol, j-k, smileysmileysmiley
:)

As for who is writing, I don't remember any calls for writers, only a call for (links to) demo reels. Anyway, Oli can't write ALL the VJ articles. Har har. Ehh, We're all curious about the "mag" (we read each other's posts, so we must be hungry for VJ text).... That shouldn't be confused with not wanting to host video content for the "website".

[sleepytom]

online magazine? whats that? oh a website!

lets hope is not just a load of very slow flash loading screens!
http://tinypic.com/i3ihb4.png

seriously i wish you the best of luck with it - do let us know when it launces - perhapse you'll get better interest for issue 2

[holly]

Originally posted by vjmag
we are in talks with going to print with this in 2007
Print magazines can't run the flash plugin!:P

[fALk]

holly: there was a call for writers a while back - and I assume there were "some" who replied....

and no I didn?t mean it negatively really. Your comment sounded a little skeptical (which is not too bad considering the secrecy and stealthiness this thing is putting on the table) so I just replied with "help make it happen" - no offense really just some encouragement towards you to write for it (maybe I am a secret fan of your business strategies who knows :P


NE1: Just for info... could you enlighten us what are the other VJ Magazines are that you are talking abouts - please not the zillions of blogs - real magazines with staff and constant content and all the fuzz.

[Anyone]

here's one:

http://www.vjforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=13702&highlight=visonic

want more?

[holly]

There are also regular articles in DJ and KEYBOARD, both are print/online mags, but print first. That's gotta be worth something....

Originally posted by fALk
holly: there was a call for writers a while back - and I assume there were "some" who replied....

Oh, I missed that.:o Besides, I'm busy working on a VJ talkshow. VJ magazines are so 2004.
:devilwink :lol2:
Heh heh Falk, I guess I am skeptical from other VJ portal attempts. It is difficult to go advanced without going "niche", ie: too business-y or too musicscene or esoteric. There are a lot of tech manuals, but they only appeal if you are using that specific product, ergo very general articles always seem like for beginners.... (what is a codec, what is a sequencer, what is a VJ). A new magazine/portal must start from zero, and many haven't lasted long enough to go to the next level. It is obviously a lot of work that could eat you alive.
:wizard:
No offense Oli, VISONIC (http://www.roland.com/VISONIC/) is v cool but it wouldn't be half as cool if it wasn't bankrolled by Roland. Currently the articles are all begin-ery (it has only just started) and more often than not mention the CG-8 or the new MotionDive controller. Kudos to the lack of product placement in your "history of..." article, but I don't think they will be giving equal play to KORG and VDMX, et al.... The LightSurgeons slideshow pictorial is an interesting choice -- I'd like to see more intermediate/pro-appealing "articles" like that in other VJ mags, VISONIC is arguably the shiniest VJ webmag at the mo, but it is only a little less advertisement than VDMX's featured artists, or KORG's for that matter. It is healthy and gives recognition, but it is still 75% Roland products....

I don't know that we should expect printed magazines these days. Publishing on paper is so expensive, not to mention costs of international distribution. And the landfills.... A paper magazine would also have to be driven by advertising and products but hopefully with an independant editorial staff (I'm so biased from my sponsorships, it hurts!)....
:spank:

[asterix]

Originally posted by Anyone
here's one:

http://www.vjforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=13702&highlight=visonic

want more?

Oh yeah sure - I guess the latest K-Mart flyer can be called a fashion & lifestyle magazine too. The edirol portal really has no more substance than a how too for its own products (by testemonial or not!). Heres this guy - heres a cutesy statement and two photos... heres another guy demoing our product... heres our products... Wheres the debate, the opinions, the critique? How about an actual vj mix I can wooh at...
But yeah if you've got any legitimate magazines I'd love to hear about them.

[vjpixylight]

..real life VJing, and ppl covering it.

I'd like to see what VJ's are doing in Iceland for example.

where are the stories about VJing in China for the communist central commitee.

where's the coverage of worldwide VJ events?

where are stories about VJ specific instalations in museum's and art galleries?

where are features about the cutting edge in visual pereformance, A/V, and such?

Isn't that what a VJMag should be all about?

[Ollie]

^^ what pix said

the edirol "magazine" is pure tosh

[sketchyj]

who cares what the articles are about i just wanna be on the cover

[vjpixylight]

of course a "page 3" (http://www.page3.com/) girl might be nice to keep it from being too geeky:)

[cat]

I cant actually see the Roland site with firefox or ie, ahh the beauty of flash huh?

[akira_k]

Originally posted by vjpixylight
..real life VJing, and ppl covering it.

I'd like to see what VJ's are doing in Iceland for example.

where are the stories about VJing in China for the communist central commitee.

where's the coverage of worldwide VJ events?

where are stories about VJ specific instalations in museum's and art galleries?

where are features about the cutting edge in visual pereformance, A/V, and such?

Isn't that what a VJMag should be all about?
Exactly my comments forwarded to the VJ:MAG people. Coverage has to be GLOBAL, otherwise it is flawed. This is my main complaint about what happened on the top20.

[holly]

:crazyeyes :lol2: :kiss: You Coloradistani crack me up!

[littlecatalyst]

Originally posted by sketchyj
who cares what the articles are about i just wanna be on the cover
good looks (in a mask anyway) a sense of style and honest!... Sketchy for President!

[holly]

Originally posted by asterix
Oh yeah sure - I guess the latest K-Mart flyer can be called a fashion & lifestyle magazine too. That's a bit harsh. I love to go catalog shopping! And Roland is way better than Kmart. As long as it's not *just* gushing praise, and there's some practical information there. It behooves them to support their artists.

Having that narrow focus just means it won't go beyond their products (no bigger picture), it doesn't automatically make it all a LIE.... It's still about real VJs. It raises the bar. Anyway, if you think "non-corporate" journalism doesn't have a bias....

[Lucidhouse]

Originally posted by vjpixylight
..real life VJing, and ppl covering it.

I'd like to see what VJ's are doing in Iceland for example.

where are the stories about VJing in China for the communist central commitee.

where's the coverage of worldwide VJ events?

where are stories about VJ specific instalations in museum's and art galleries?

where are features about the cutting edge in visual pereformance, A/V, and such?

Isn't that what a VJMag should be all about?

Yep!
This is what intrest me as well...the scene definately needs a global perspective, at the moment I feel it's quite UK centric, there's so much inspirational stuff happening all over...

all the best for this release, I hope it goes well.

[asterix]

I've got nothing against catalogues - hell in my job I've designed hundreds of them, and know how effective they are (especially to women :cool: )
And to thier credit - Roland have thought outside the square a little, and have made a truly VJ focussed campaign (awesome). But lets compare apples with apples - or magazines with customer loyalty/ brand development websites (not really a portal either).
AND Im certainly not against advertising. I want to be advertised to... I read magazines to keep up with the latest and greatest, to be educated and inspired. (Hmmm kinda reminds me of VJC)

[fALk]

So it seems most agree what a VJ:Mag should be about:
US. Puplished by US (not as in the country but as in the persons) written by US and about US. Most are not accepting that a big corpo (like roland) is publishing it as most corpo branded products are cold away and have a clear vision to support the companies products - so they are always biased (or oli can you put up a negative article about any edirol gear for example? even if you truly think a product sucks?) far away from the core and will not gain much support or fellowship.
Also there is a lot of sceptics about the "online only" approach as it doesn?t seem to lend much credibility and everyone seems to agree towards a media converged product (a vj talkshow? holly you wanna be the next oprah do you? Maybe its very entertaining midday format seeing the "open" discussion on here recorded live on camera - when someone strips down sketchys mask to see the big W behind it and the certain talkmaster lets the dancing girls arrive from the graves :D...
So it seems there is a consensus that a directed vj voice is needed and maybe even in form of a magazine to start with - so point is still valid that the secretive vj:mag is a good idea? and I like that they don?t tout "big things coming" and talking much about their unreleased product - sometimes silence is gold and all. lets see if that is the case here. With enough vj embracing it (and if they get a big staff of vjs who contribute regularly they have the multipliers inside the staff) it might gain some momentum and be good for all of us. then again it could be born dead because there is not a discussion with them beforehand about what we really want?

[Anyone]

Originally posted by fALk
oli can you put up a negative article about any edirol gear for example? even if you truly think a product sucks?

when was the last time you saw a bad review about anything?
name one, outside petty rants on this forum.

The way press works at the moment,
is it doesn't matter if reviewers talk about you in good or bad ways,
so long as they spell your name right,
a product or event or person's success is measured
not in the reviewer's comments, but in column inches.
heard that before?

so in a nutshell, press people's reaction to this
is articles get written about good products, events, etc.
really bad products and such don't get anything written about, at all.

I personally think Edirol have done an amazing job at
giving this scene a boost in credibility in recent years,
by releasing plenty of VJ specific products.

and they deserve the press pay back.

of course some products were better than others,
and the best got written most about.

[holly]

Originally posted by Anyone
I personally think Edirol have done an amazing job at giving this scene a boost in credibility in recent years, by releasing plenty of VJ specific products.

and they deserve the press pay back.

of course some products were better than others,
and the best got written most about.
I don't think there is ENOUGH reviews! And too much "journalism" about moby nerdboys with laptops projecting on bedsheets talking about art and their feelings. bleh. Or another big dark room with screensquares.... get to the fashion pages already.

I bought those little cameras Edirol had that screwed onto microphone stands. They are so great but never got any publicity or press. DIY a/vs would say they were just security cams, but they had good res, sensitive in low light, small and painted black. Cameras are not a new invention, but Edirol made one with specs for the VJ.... Now they are discontinued. I used them to record the artists at Eyewash (along with the LVS-400, another great mixer that is never mentioned but you can hand it to an intern in the dark and they can use it no problem). I bought these Sony cams first and they suck. Edirol does good by me.

[hamageddon]

Originally posted by Anyone
I personally think Edirol have done an amazing job at
giving this scene a boost in credibility in recent years,
by releasing plenty of VJ specific products.


sorry, oli, i don't see a real improvement in v1 and lv-440 compared to the v4 at all. did they really had the vj in mind here?

[SlinkyTrips]

I think before anyone will sign up to do stuff for a magazine we are gonna need more info, surely you have a vision for this magazine, we might share that vision too. (no pun intended) Here is what my ideal mag would look like, I have nothing to do with VJ:MAG, i just liked the logo.

image removed at request of VJMag...
________
Honda S90 (http://www.cyclechaos.com/wiki/Honda_S90)

[vjmag]

I think before anyone will sign up to do stuff for a magazine we are gonna need more info, surely you have a vision for this magazine, we might share that vision too. (no pun intended) Here is what my ideal mag would look like, I have nothing to do with VJ:MAG, i just liked the logo.


SlinkyTrips - Please remove the image above! you do not have permission to use our logo for mock designs, and you have broken copyright law!

Remove this now.

NOTE - This is one of the main reasons of our secrecy of VJ:MAG.

[ToxicOrange]

thats in keeping with the ethos of the vjforums site, create, share, recreate ...

[vjmag]

thats in keeping with the ethos of the vjforums site, create, share, recreate ...

Really! I dont care what the ethos of VJForum is, All i know is that this is a breach of copyright. If this is what VJforum is all about, then I dont what any more to do with it.

I want this removed NOW, or I am calling VJforum to get this removed.
This is NOT a design by VJ:Mag, and may give the impression that is is.

How poor are they who have not patience! What wound did ever heal but by degrees.
-- William Shakespeare

[ToxicOrange]

thats in keeping with the ethos of the vjforums site, create, share, recreate ...
may I just say ... that the above comment is nowt to do with vjforums ... i really should have quoted your comment above prior to post but too late ...

On one hand your asking the members to take a leap of faith and entrust their work to you, and when you get positive feedback on the logo design and someone comes up with a fake cover you immediately alienate them ...

But all the best for the mag when it arrives.

[vjmag]

I have contacted VJForum Mod to get this removed.

And what are you on toxic drugs? I never said people can upload mock designs in the name of VJ:Mag did I? or use our logo.

[ToxicOrange]

rofl ... hype, marketing, using the resources of the site ... you have already asked for input and assistance from the community. And one member took an interest and was excited enough to take some time out and do something original for ya, granted they should have asked prior permission for using a logo (insert slapped wrist ~ bad Slinky, baaaad slinky) but then again IMHO being a magazine about the moving image, would it not be something you would want to encourage? Maybe competitions to redesign the logo or use the base version and funk with it into an avi?

Now a creative commons based VJ magazine with cd/dvd would be a classy propersition ... and drugs? Just the flouride in and around the Midlands.

[evomedia]

Lol Vjmag he was just trying to express what he would like to see in an ideal vjmag in reply to your own post. He isn't going to publish it and he even mocked it up to give an impression of what he'd like to see in a post by you, he even stated quiet clearly this ins't the real mag. I understand your keen not to dilute brand but really don't get too aggressive. Just a simple comment about logo usage. After all I bet you'll post your logo all over for people to display links to your site.

Your website isn't even launched, and before you get too het up you should stop spurting copyright, you havent put a TM on your own logo, if someone is using your logo in regards to themselves or relating to your company they require a trademark license to use the logo, but only if you have a TM attached to your logo. Copying logo's is common practice to refer to suppliers and clients, so reckon you'd be in difficult water trying to get anywhere in court for use of an untrademarked logo in a mockup design of a non existent magazine that mimics a website that as yet is not live.

He was hardly being deceptive and trying to rip you off. TRADEMARK it to protect your name and brand. Stop threatening and just give gentle reminders please. If you ask for help submission and want readership from here (your obvious reader base, I suggest you don't get too aggressive with the people that will make your site successful.

Also maybe a reminder that your advertising a rival online VJ magazine to VJCentral, they could in themselves take offense to pulling readership away from this site.

If you say things like 'if this is what VJforums is about I want nothing to do with it' your just insulting its readers, guess what...we are the VJ's, we are the ones you want to read your magazine, please don't get shitty with your readership before you have even launched your site mate. Its easy to boycott as everyone comes here, and I really don't want to see people get blasted when all they were trying to do was express their enthusiasm.

I'm a Profesional Designer, I understand your concerns just not the way your dealing with it. Brand is important but isolating your readership is madness.

[sleepytom]

magazine noun 1 a paperback periodical publication, usually a heavily illustrated one, containing articles, stories, etc by various writers. Sometimes shortened to mag. 2 a TV, radio a regular broadcast in which reports are presented on a variety of subjects; b as adj • magazine programme. 3 in some automatic firearms: a metal container for several cartridges. 4 a a storeroom for ammunition, explosives, etc; b any place, building, etc in which military supplies are stored. 5 photog a removable container from which slides are automatically fed through a projector, or film is fed through a movie camera, printer or processor.
ETYMOLOGY: 16c: French magasin, from Arabic makhzan storehouse.


website noun, computing a person or organization's location on the World Wide Web.
ETYMOLOGY: 1990s.
http://www.edirectory.co.uk/pf/images/products/955/images/spade.jpg
Shovel?

[hamageddon]

NOTE - This is one of the main reasons of our secrecy of VJ:MAG.

u should have kept your logo secret then?

[SlinkyTrips]

I have decided to publlish my own magazine, for copies send money to "happy dude" 742 Evergreen Tce.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e87/slinkytrips/mmag.jpg
For the record i used a different font in the title.
________
Buell RR1200 (http://www.cyclechaos.com/wiki/Buell_RR1200)

[holly]

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e87/slinkytrips/mmag.jpg
dude! that looks so great! Where can I get one???
VJbooks are so passe. 2006 is the year of the magazine!:yep:

[sketchyj]

[QUOTE=holly]I don't think there is ENOUGH reviews! And too much "journalism" about moby nerdboys with laptops projecting on bedsheets talking about art and their feelings. bleh.QUOTE]
Bleh yourself, Holly. Have I projected onto bedsheets? yes. Do I like Moby? yes. Do I use a laptop? regrettably, yes. VJing for everyone isn't about how much expensive gear you can brag about having. Few of us can afford $14,000 reflecmedia sheets, nor are many of us sponsored by Korg, as you are. And whether or not you want to admit it, the best VJs are the ones who care about art and have feelings. Ever seen Willy Nelson's guitar? It looks like someone pulled it out of a dumpster. Get over yourself and your snobbery.

[RayV]

> happy dude: Luved the design very much
i'm ready to buy it when you are ready, happy dude [your name is one of the main reasons i'd consider buying it =]

[Anyone]

Wether it be a legal or not thing to do,
Clearly the VJ Mag guys have said they are not comfortable
with us pirating their front cover and logo.

these lads, in the near future, seem potentially very able
to give the scene a lift and give it good exposure.

In this case should we be so overtly cheeky with them,
and even before the first issue is out,
make a mockery out of it?

but who am I to talk about proper behavior ...

[holly]

Bleh yourself, Holly. Have I projected onto bedsheets? yes. Do I like Moby? yes. Do I use a laptop? regrettably, yes. VJing for everyone isn't about how much expensive gear you can brag about having. Few of us can afford $14,000 reflecmedia sheets, nor are many of us sponsored by Korg, as you are. And whether or not you want to admit it, the best VJs are the ones who care about art and have feelings. Ever seen Willy Nelson's guitar? It looks like someone pulled it out of a dumpster. Get over yourself and your snobbery.
I've seen your photo sketchy. You look nothing like Moby. My complaint was about a homogeny, the sameness of like minded people promoting similar people along similar lines. You telling me there aren't VJ clones? You're wrong. There are plenty of challenges to thought and style -- just not very intelligent ones. How many times have we seen here someone announce that "electronic music" is the only suitable music for VJing...? I see is people limiting the possibilities by their own tastes, claiming things "are" because that's what they see once their filters are turned on. Where's the circuitbending? Where's the dumpster diving? Where's the eleborate feedback octopus porn? Who's hacking into animated billboards and TimesSquare signs? Indeed WHERE are the poolside swapmeets? Bleh yourself and your snobbery that doesn't allow you to see what I'm actually asking for. I NEVER said the amount of money your gear is worth is what makes it interesting, and Willy Nelson's guitar looks that way because he's USED it, not because he bought it at Hollister.

I also don't think the ubiquitous Eurofestival shots of entire stadiums of faceless people are particularly interesting. Numbers is a boy's game. More gear, more crowds, more DJs -- yeah, maybe it's interesting the FIRST time (or once per issue, tbh), but where's the undergound of the underground? Where's the guy making contraversial footage? Where's the VJ that goes against the grain, because quite frankly when you are in a little undergorund scene conformity becomes MORE rampant. Gosh you must KNOW this. When everyone gets the same tattoos and the same hair and the same brimless wooly hat.... It's probably cool if you feel happy in that cookie cutter, but if you don't?

It's so not about homogenous tools in homogenous scenes (if you wanna get to article#2), and if you think everyone's goal is to get a bluescreen maybe you should look around because not that many people are doing it because it takes a bit of technical effort. I got the best one out there because I sold my ideas to get jobs that help me pay for that. I did a ton of research and four years of jury-rigged seat of the pants and $18.63 at the 24hr hardware store. Maybe someone would be interested in HOW you get sponsorship, but Apple doesn't give free MacBooks so I see why you wouldn't be interested. Laptops aren't boring because their cheap(! excuse me - cheap!? I have a 4 year old 800mhz laptop I bought used, and you're accusing ME of gear snobbery? Get over the nationalsm kiddo). Laptops are boring because they are designed to be closed systems with choked video input. And they cost too much for something that won't last 3 years! Give Steve Jobs $1000 to buy a brand new laptop and me $1000 to go to every thrift store and dumpster to find obsolete doodads and discontinued hardware and we'll see who puts on a less conventional show. It's not the money you spend, it's the ideas you have and how well you can implement those ideas to the crowd. In my opinion that comes with experience and a LOT of experimentation. That's why a VJ salon scene is more interesting than a concert tour, or a stadium show for DJimportant.

Bed sheets? ugh. Do a search for SPANDEX and come up level 2. Isn't that what this sort of forum is for? Are you defending someone who's just starting or defending someone who never improves their presentation because they spend their lives buried in tweeking knobs? This weekend I get to project on huge inflatable sculptures we commissioned for an event at the MoMA, but if bedsheets are more "legit" more fundamentally "underground" because of their ubiquity in a Warholworld then good luck with that..., bring an iron to every gig to get the wrinkles out and hope you never need to project bigger than Queensize. Har har har.
:eek: WHAT?! Don't tell me you left it up there wrinkled!
Mostly what this scene needs is fewer bruised egos after every penis measuring contest -- oh, and a sense of humor. To laff at ourselves and our humble bedsheet beginnings.

[sketchyj]

:cry: my humblest apologies for saying such shit and for taking something like what you said so personally. I guess lately it seems like I have to have my guard up constantly on here and my paranoid mind went haywire. You are the bomb and one million "i'm sorry's" to you:not worth
i just want gear that works, if that means i have to stay with bedsheets for a while to afford it, i'll stay with bedsheets. would you mind giving me an honest opinion of the Kaptivator? You seem to be the only one i've heard of that has used it...i'm planning on getting one on Feb. 9th, for no other reason than i'm sick of jankety laptop/midi controller rigs that stop working in the middle of the show. :love: :hippy: :kiss:

[SlinkyTrips]

while my definition of pirating may be different then yours I can see your point. My other image was just pure venting, I was fustrated that they took the route they did. No "hey Slinky can you remove/change the logo/banner indicating fan art please" message. The super secret mag was just feeding off other comments on the board.

Oh, and for all those who PMed me, it was a pizza box...
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[holly]

Oh, and for all those who PMed me, it was a pizza box...
:lol2: That is classic!

Aw Sketchy, I love you dude! Please don't become a veganazi like Moby. Even he doesn't believe in it anymore :love3:

I dunno about Kaptivator. I never used it for more than a few minutes.... But I never got computer/midi things to work so I gave up. Sad because clearly they DO work for some geniuses. I don't have a clip-triggerer solution. Kaptivator is a great size, and self-contained, but hardware has fewer work-arounds -- I wonder if you would be freed or feel stifled by hardware's narrow workflow. I guess if it works reliably that is more important than anything (it is to me). I didn't get to play long enough to crash it....
:shrug:
Now we are so offtopic we must be punished.
:whip:

[Anyone]

Just one thing to look out for with the Kaptivator,
I had one on loan for a few months,
one of the first ones in Europe actualy.

and I did use it for all night gigs a lot.
inevitably, after 4 hours of play,
the framerate slowed down to about 5 FPS
struggling to keep up...

so I had to turn it off for about 2 minutes
then it was ok for another 4 hours...

so this just means you need another source
every 4 hours for 2 minutes.... a least....

otherwise a very close to perfect VJ box!


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[evomedia]

Sketchyj if you can't afford screens you should use bannergrade PVC instead of bedsheets its only what ?5 sqm at least it stays flatter. you can even buy it ready Fireproofed.

[sketchyj]

thanks for the info anyone, i suppose i will still have the lappy up there along with the Korg...i'm going to need a bigger stand...
oh ya! i was in wal-mart last night and they were selling reams of white spandex like material for 1.00 per yard....maybe i can finally put the bedsheets back on my bed now! :)
I'm really excited to get some new gear....my gig at The Church(it's a nightclub lol) is still a go....hopefully I can impress them enough to get asked back

[rolin]

So this has been a quite
well discussed thread.

I watched the VJ:Mags site (http://www.vjmag.co.uk/) every day
and it said "Coming in March 2006".

Now it's already april..

..so where is it -
I'm so curious about it,
but it's still just snowing there.

[famouswhendead]

...
maybe
...
it is only 4 april...

[akira_k]

I want to know why the VJ mag guys did not contact me any further after ofering my help to write...

[devonmiles]

did you applied via the online contact sheet? its a bit odd, because it says you have to have access to major events/outstanding giglist/photography skills.
in journalism normaly the magazin opens the door for the reporter not the other way round and as a freelancer you dont have to reference a lot, you just send in work samples to show your writing skills, except when you apply for apprentice at the TIMES you would have minor chances when your reference doesnt contain at least 5 of the major newspapers.
of course the success of a vj mag depends on much it covers major events with top djs or product presentations at prominent fairs and locations, but its not essential to be written by top vjs. I would rather read an article by someone with entertainment skills and good writing than by some kickass vj who cant complete a sentence.

[holly]

Maybe the VJ Magazine guys just need a little encouragement.

Yay! VJ MAGAZINE! rah Rah RAH!

Anyway, I'm rooting for them. It's all good. Any ambitious project will take time. I think these guys could have been a little more transparent about who they are (or maybe they are nobody, but I'm pretty sure they are someone here that we probably know), and the general community would support it more. I think it would also be ok to see a project launch even if embryonic and more people might sign on to help once they see the general vibe.

I'm sure like all of us, they are busy having lives, working and doing shows, and ignoring all the snarky comments.

Good luck VJ:MAGAZINE, who ever you are!

[Mavrick]

Just though I'd add something to this one. Loved the mock up especially the 'free disk' :)
On the subject of copyright. I work (day) in publishing (design, and development of magazines), and he would be on very shaky ground about the use of the logo unless it was being used to defame the proposed publication...

It does seem to be taking a load of time to get off the ground though... Maybe no-one will bother by the time it (ever) appears? I certainly wouldn't send any of my vj material to an unknown!

[akira_k]

did you applied via the online contact sheet? its a bit odd, because it says you have to have access to major events/outstanding giglist/photography skills.
I tried to use tht at first but noticed they did not accept people from my country. What the heck!? So I emailed them and they corrected it. I think I re-applied, but nothing came after that.

I don't know why all those requirements, really. I think I can provide a very good inputto their mag, but probably, they just want to be EU/US/JP centric like most stuff I see out there.

[ToxicOrange]

I do like the festive website they still have on offer ...

Ahhh yes ... I also remember the little whois lookup i made (as per sleepy) and the subsequent "website" boldly branding the title of "cool home pages design award winner" ... hmmmm, taking a look at some of the freely available flash site templates is it any wonder that they were looking for free demo's from the creative and talented folk of vjforums? ... lets have a look through the square window shall we? ...

http://www.flashkit.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=574639&perpage=20&pagenumber=1

sorry guys, but when i originally located this, i was too sober to be bothered, but since my mambo websites and host got "hacked" HA HA ! i really feel like being a little bitchy! heh ... alcohol dont forget is for over 18's now ...