got A/V?

[LEVLHED]

So, this last weekend I did a bastardized version of the A/V thing I'm developing...it went well enough, but certainly room for improvement:)...and now I see Dave has broke some new ground into the audio side this last weekend as well...
I think there is a general concensus here that A/V acts are "the next phase" for VJs...so, I'm wondering, who here is actually doing an A/V act now?

[komart663]

oh i wish i could do it ,but it's quite hard to give a good video set and a good sound set as i have trouble with ubiquity but i'm looking for a sound partner that may resolve my ubiquity troubles

[eXhale]

what is ubiquity??

[apu]

I guess I am in an a/v act. Two dj's mixing back to back. Me on visuals. All three of us on stage all grooving away. No VJ tucked out back.

First set went off. Got second one planned for early next year.

People really got off on seeing three guys on stage and really enjoying each others music/video and working together to pump it out.

Funky/Latino Phat House is our style.

[Amukidi]

I did my first solo AV set in September on the Greek Island of Naxos!! It was a short set (1 hour) but certainly gave me a taster of what it can be like, and was a real hoot, I shall certainly try and do more. At the festivals and clubs I play, the VJs are always on stage with the DJ/Band and this is surely the way forward, Hexstatic were playing at the same festival, and I've always thought of them as an AV outfit, rather good too if I may say!

[phunkyguy]

we're planning a drum and bass / hip hop tour in the cincy/columbus/dayton/indy/louisville area that will include dj's and visuals (by me, woohoo!). I spoke to about 5 dj's this weekend that wanted me to do a live PA with them, and so i must invest in more equipment for that. But yea, i'll agree that this is the way things are headed.

Peas
evan@thedigitalfire.com

[Rovastar]

I dunno the AV for is like saying that DJ'ing is dieing it does sound like a 'way out' for the struggling VJ community.

In the future will DJ's have to be AV acts dunno.

If you work with the DJ enough you can create an impression of AV.

Whata bout the mountians of DJ that are not interested in visuals. Just like there are mountains of promoters that think the same way.

AV could easily at this stage 'price itself out of the market'

Just my thoughts

Oh I been away for so long the VJ events forum obviously has been removed.:rolleyes:

[AudioVisualizers]

price is no object. If the vibe is right the show is free - as is this.. your expenses are covered...no more..no less...just vibe... soaking in communal vibrations.... you need to meld your harmonic resonance to the frequency of the machine, let your fingers do the walking, the voices will guide you.

[Rovastar]

? Too much like poetry for me you saying you do not charge and do visuals for the love?

[LEVLHED]

I guess a VJ/DJ team would work, but really I'm thinking more along the lines of Live P.A.

[eXhale]

dave, i moved your post on the contest here (http://www.vjforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=1134). it's really fine to start a new thread if you have something else to say, actually we could really use some more threads these days (hint hint to everyone :p)

[LEVLHED]

yeah, thats kind of how this thread got started in my brain...the feeling of "man, the board is slow right now" to the thought of "gee, I haven't really started a post in awhile"

[AudioVisualizers]

I knew after I posted that - that I should go back and delete it - or move it to it's proper place - thanks for helping my cross modal mindstate....I will try and get things a bit narrowed down more in the future I guess....I just was off on a tangent...OSX/BSD is screwing with my head... and there is this pinball machine that I bought on the weekend (a present to myself for keeping a promise to myself), and I am playing the game...mind melding with it...kind of like this meditative state I get into when driving cross country...and I experienced last night with the sampler/sequencer/keyboard/decks, etc.. thinking this is a good groove to go on. so I was thinking EBN style, building my videosynth into my pinball machine, equiping with lasers, fog, rocket launchers, and hey it is all an illusion anyway, so I will play tommy, blind on the stage, working the wizardry with no curtain...save the flippers of scratchiness....pix soon, I swear...where is that camera uplink cable?

[PilotX]

Originally posted by eXhale
what is ubiquity??

ubiquitous: 1: everywhere at once 2: onmnipresent - ubiquity

So, since I'm guessing Komart663 is not God, then the need to be doing everything at once is proving too much.

Personally, I reckon that the number A/V acts will grow, but that many bands will hire in a VJ for a tour, and the VJ will be expected to produce visuals to fit the music, much the same situation as in clubs now.
True A/V acts will grow. By this I mean like what Coldcut/Hexstatix have done in terms of creating the music and visuals together as one work. However, I do not think this will become the norm.

We're not involved in A/V act at the moment, but would certainly not be averse to having the chance to work with musicians on something.

Tom
SyZyGy Visuals

[brain]

i'd like to describe our veryvery first gig long ago in 1995.

we were two "VJs" (not even knowing the word :) ) mixing movies and loops from two VCRs with a mx-12. there were two guys who brought their entire studio to work live on new electro tracks and there was a DJ (or better main operator) who played records and had the possibility to use also the sound from the two guys experimenting AND the sound from our VCRs. it was a loungelike atmosphere with people sitting around us, watching the screens, figuring out what we do and listening to what was more like a soundtrack or radio play. someone described it like watching a never ending, strange and tripping movie.

we five guys were on it for eight hours and some people stayed all the time getting hypnotized just like us :)

music, sound and visuals influenced each other and over the time led to different atmospheres - we were able to let things develop by themselves because it was no dance event or not even a regular "party" - we did not have to fulfill the expectations of a party crowd.

maybe setups like that give one much more space to work freely and to try things out. in a "normal" club environment people maybe pay less attention and care less about what the people do on stage.

i don't think the one who does the music may do the visuals as well (or do both things really good). there is just to much to do on each single thing! in my eyes, it's got to be teamwork. more concentration, more intensity, and more fun...

[Rovastar]

ALso I have a big fear of AV in that loads of ppl who know nothing about visual stuff and do teh music with think I can do that and it be a pile of shit.

Thus agian sending the scene into further backwards rleams.....

[robotfunk]

I started making/performing music about 12 years ago and did my first VJ gig about 9 years ago. I'd call myself an A/V performer rather than a VJ cos most of my gigs are me doing my own music and doing visuals on top .. all live with 2 computers etc. Very hectic and I agree its very hard to pump out quality music AND visuals at the same time. But on the other hand it is the easiest way to make sure the audio and video are in perfect harmony in every sense as you have total control over both.

[phase04]

allowing video perfromers the same visibility as audio performers at events is indeed an interesting direction to take vj ing. it is, in my mind, one of the best ways to raise the awareness of the depth to which vjs are taking their craft. once ppls' expectations are raised relating to how they percieve live video performance, thats when then "next phase" hits. its hitting now, its bubblimg up around the world. partnering creatively with like-minded music performers is key to getting the momentum built that will move our discipline forward.

i do approximately 80% of all my live video gigs as a conterpart to a live pa. i setup right beside my partner on stage, laptop vs latop. we get the same billing (twine and phasefour), and these days the live video element has been getting a lot of attention, leading to bookings all over the world. the response to this new-ish form of performance, where the video and audio are accepted as equals, has been amazing. ppl have been doing it and are doing it (Coldcut/Hexstatix et al),, but the point of critical awareness of it is only now drawing near.

indeed, the key is to arrive at creative point where the audio and video elements fuse together to create a unique experience, beyond that which could have been realized with the single elements alone. a performance can take many interesting paths when video elements are influencing audio elements, and vice versa. within the human feedback loop, its free-jazz improvising on an aural and visual level.

video.www.phasefour.org
audio. www.twinesound.com

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