VJs animators, where R you?!!!

[Shahbah]

Did anybody dream of releasing a DVD of his work?!! it seems that nobody did.
Now here's the deal:
We are a production company and we're looking for a highly motivated 3d animator to work with us on a DVD of music and animation.
The treatment is ready and the music is being worked on.
This is not a paid job, you'd get 15% of the sales so if you think your work is worth it, get in touch!
ONLY SERIOUS CANDIDATES PLEASE.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
njellab@atriumprod.com

[darkanima]

Hi

I'm more than happy someone comes up with this idea.
e-mail me so we can discuss further details.

[checky]

Hi Shahbah

I got a lot of stuff that you might use for your DVD, maybe it could be for the bonus part?...
Anyway, i'll e-mail you.
Take care.

[solly]

Watch out guys this is a scam
Sol

[holly]

:( I don't know that it is a "scam" Solly, but it doesn't seem quite fair.... An hour of 3D animations, their storyboards and ideas, for no production costs....You eat all the development expenses...? I mean, whose computers are doing all this rendering? It will be tied up for weeks..., maybe months.... Maybe they just don't know what video production costs....

:) Maybe they are not looking for something too complicated.... Maybe they are great guys who will be very flexible and honest. You will have a dvd under your belt....

:D Maybe they like LOTS of repeating 6-second loops so it isn't so much work afterall.... Maybe they are extremely popular and will sell thousands of dvds and a young motivated animator will make lots of money. It says 15% of the sales, not the profits.... That means you should be getting checks every month right from the start.

I never heard of anyone on their label, but you know how ignorant we Ameristani are....
;) :P

[checky]

Hi guys

Yes to me, it seems a good opportunity, I made some research about them and they seem really cool. (actually i have a buddy who lives in Montreal and works as a DP, he did some corpos with them...). Anyway, we'll see what happens.

[akira_k]

I think it might be time for VJCentral to delete dupe mebers like hese three above... When I check a country's VJ list iI don't know which are the real ones etc.

[solly]

Bear in mind that Checky, Darkamina and Shabbah are the same person. Her real name is Najat Jellab. Like Akira said, vjcentral should do something about it.

[Shahbah]

Oh my God I didn't know i had clones!!! I have no idea who these people are unless i suffer from schysophrenia...
I don't know who you are neither who comes to this forum, i thaught we were dealing with professional people....SO bear in mind that arrogance is a major problem in this industry, as it is with humanity I suppose, please be causious of your own and remember your part of a community of arts all with same goal, to create. But anyway, good luck to all of you.

[akira_k]

It gets worse when you try to protect/justify yourself, you know? It's even morenoticeable and lame.

[Rovastar]

Ok I am banning your other accounts. I checked the logs. You are so obviously are the same person how stupid do you think we are?

Personaly I would advise no-one to deal with these and their blantant lies.

Rovastar
VJC Admin

[holly]

:nono: for shame.

Everyone! Send him your worst clip!:D

[levon]

Originally posted by Shahbah
Did anybody dream of releasing a DVD of his work?!! it seems that nobody did.
Now here's the deal:
We are a production company and we're looking for a highly motivated 3d animator to work with us on a DVD of music and animation.
The treatment is ready and the music is being worked on.
This is not a paid job, you'd get 15% of the sales so if you think your work is worth it, get in touch!
ONLY SERIOUS CANDIDATES PLEASE.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
njellab@atriumprod.com

sure ill do some animation for you, for free as well.

oh, but i use 3d studio (not max) in dos 5, is that a problem??? :P

realy, how can you expect anyone to trust you if you try and trick them into working with you.

oh well, i guess he cant answer that anymore can he??? :D :D

[videoteque]

How Solly and Akira knew instantly s/he was tricking???

Are you God?

Solly, in Italy "sola" is a scam (timo)... Y ya me han dado alguno desde que vivo en Italia...:o

[LEVLHED]

the first red flags are new members from argentina responding positively to a questionable post.

[holly]

Originally posted by LEVLHED
the first red flags are new members from argentina responding positively to a questionable post.
Yes, Argentinians are never agreeable in their first posts. Just ask Akira.
:lol: :jester:

[akira_k]

Originally posted by videoteque
How Solly and Akira knew instantly s/he was tricking? I suppose the answer is, at least for myself, that I haev been a moderator/admin on boards for literally years and I know exactly how this sort of shitheads behave. They're all the same ;D


LOL @ Holly ;D

[videoteque]

Congrats!

Scam-detection is very important to save yourself some delusions...

[duffbeerdragon]

I did a whole entire HNC in Animation at James Watt College,

and almost a whole HNC year at Trowbridge College in Multimedia,

they didn't even have any DVD equipment at all - it was just coming out then.

Point being - any real scammers, who are all the same indeed, also taught at all the courses I did - I have units in 3D modelling and no knowledge at all of how to make any models in any of the software because they can't teach properly.

The animation part was easy to pick up on my own, since it is logical. The modelling in Lightwave and MAX is not logical, and they couldn't teach it either.

And their monitors were too small to display enough of the animation-modelling packages onscreen, especially when it's those split-into-four layouts.

And the 'overnight rendering' - does that even happen anymore - taking all night to render a short animation, doesn't even have any audio. Having to put big signs on the computers that say 'Do Not Touch'.


I'm hoping that someone is going to, or already has, come up with a modeling package that is as logical to use as Paint Shop Pro or Fractal Painter are for 2D work. Cinema 4D is also illogical, used that on my own time.

What would work better is to have a menu for viewing, and modelling in, the scale of the onscreen display - resolutions, pixels, actual dimensions,

better plane and zoom-controls

logical modelling tools,

so for example - if you wanted to make a car shell model,

you'd be able to do it like a sculptor would make it out of a block of some material - carve bits out in the way a pen-tool would work,

but you could also

merge shapes together - logicly and seamlessly

mirror them - so you make half the car bodywork and then just mirror it for the other half


The packages I was ass-taught had no features like that at all - there were lots of terms that made no sense as to what their actual actions are on-screen, and things would not stay where they were actually placed, joints wouldn't hold together, etc.

Modelling in 3D should work like the way a sculptor would make an object -

also in a Mechano set sort of way.

But they don't. They're like the 3D equivalent of Photoshop with no filters - you can't create anything.

I've got a whole bunch of things I did and I never had any idea how I did them.

The only thing that made sense was the mesh - being able to change that to change the shape - but, it didn't seem to offer a display whereby you could view the actual surface change as well as view the mesh itself.

[lightandshadow]

Modeling a 3D object using a 2D display isn't easy. There's a learning curve in visually bridging the gap between the two.

While I haven't done any 3D work professionally in the last few years, a friend who's still in the industry recently gave me a demo of Modo, a new modeling tool by Luxology. (He switched to Modo from Lightwave's modeler)

It seems to be light-years ahead of everything else that's out there.

http://www.luxology.com/

[sketchyj]

quite true, i've never had ANYONE from Argentina respond positively to anything i've posted, it's always bitch, bitch, bitch
:banghead: